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projecthalaxy posted:Since they went from bars to mesh in 1999. What was the last match for the old cage? Austin/Vince at St. Valentine's Day Massacre?
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MassRafTer posted:Kennel From Hell. drat. From a memorable match for the right reasons, to well, Kennel From Hell.
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May 5, 2014 03:15
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Shima Honnou posted:I judge people based on who their shirt is of. All you CM Punkers out there are quitters in my book! I think I still have a he who shall not be named shirt. Don't be hard 
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May 13, 2014 20:15
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iLikeMidgets posted:Just watching some old WWE clips and came across this one He wasn't active too much in ring in '01 outside of some PPV matches. He was on TV as leading the Invasion at the time. I know he was trained by Tom Prichard and Al Snow, but I couldn't tell you much more.
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May 18, 2014 15:33
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Aku posted:He was more active than Vince in the ring(who also did some insane spots for a 50+ year old man), but he was hardly a wrestler and it showed quite clear. The way he was booked was weird though: "stronger than a corporate suit should have been, but still not a WWE Superstar". He compensated with a lot of really dangerous spots, such as flying off the Titantron NUMEROUS times, and he even did the Van Terminator. Looking back it's really stupid, but I still hold a certain level of admiration for him. Anyone have a GIF of Vince's announce table spot from St. Valentine's Day Massacre?
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May 18, 2014 15:38
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I also have a soft spot for his Blackman match (Summerslam '00?), Big Show match (Backlash '01), and Angle at KOTR.
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May 18, 2014 15:41
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Can't be any worse than Double J's attire in WCW.
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May 18, 2014 19:25
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DangerKat posted:Jesus was there no a/c in that arena? They host AHL games there, but it's a drat tiny arena to begin with. ~6K seats. Kinda pissed I missed that Raw, I saw a a house show there in college.
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May 24, 2014 13:43
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Luigi Thirty posted:I think if Dean Malenko and Lance Storm ever touched the world would end because of the black hole they would create. Did they ever wrestle? I don't ever think so. Lance joined ECW a few years after Dean left for WCW, and missed Dean in WCW by a few months. Dean retired from from the WWF just before Lance came in via the Invasion.
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May 26, 2014 19:05
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Everblight posted:Crazzy Steve vs Frankie Kazarian, TNA !mpact 5/15/14. Manos is probably more akin to backyard wrestling than TNA. It was basically nothing much more than an amateur production at all levels. TNA is supposed to be a professional federation, right?
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May 26, 2014 23:39
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LividLiquid posted:How deep is that cave on mars in which you live that you've never heard of Gene Siskel or Roger Ebert? You realize that the last time Siskel & Ebert reviewed anything as a unit was 15 years ago, right. WCW was just starting its crash. They're also both dead, so it isn't like there's going to be a surprise reunion.
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Jun 15, 2014 12:23
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triplexpac posted:You can't really directly compare star ratings that way. Meltzer doesn't rate every match he has ever seen based on one another and revise ratings accordingly. Didn't someone make a DB that attempted to isolate people who made a match better by removing their average rating or something? It was interesting in a trivial manner and a "stop it you're making my brain hurt thinking of your methodology holes" way.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:01
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Luigi Thirty posted:Canadian Stampede, St. Valentine's Day Massacre. The good ones still have lovely undercards but amazing main events. Rock/Mankind was not the ME on St. Valentine's Day Massacre. 
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Jun 20, 2014 23:17
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bartok posted:What are some of the better In Your House PPVs? I've seen Mind Games with the incredible Shawn Michaels/Mankind main event and a few really lovely In Your Houses. Beware of Dog is also a must-see.
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Jun 20, 2014 23:40
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MassRafTer posted:The worst I've really heard was William Muldoon being reportedly menaced by gangs of thugs (he was a former NY police officer) acting on behalf of his opponent. Other than that there isn't much more than brutal beatings inside of matches, or cool poo poo like Matsuda threatening to kill Evan Lewis if he used the sleeper on him, so Lewis just leglocked him into the hospital. Rugby players did what wrestlers only threatened to do. I'm sure there would have been more stabbings if you concentrated all of the promoters into an area slightly larger than New Jersey.
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Jun 22, 2014 12:21
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Saul Goode posted:At the company's peak there was also another company with a few million fans of its own who could have been drawn over with the right booking philosophy. Cena came much later for sure, but the audience for good wrestling is still out there. At its peak you could argue for up to 12 million people willing to watch the product. A good product, with a diverse portfolio of actual superstars. Not just Cena and a bunch of chumps who aren't as good as Cena. Why do you consider WCW a good booking philosophy
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Jun 28, 2014 13:16
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Raeg posted:I was just thinking after the Vickie thing this week - who has been on-screen fired the most in pro graps? Jim Ross
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Jun 29, 2014 14:56
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Luigi Thirty posted:There are these things called "steroids" and when you get injured and do too many of them while you're out, you gain a hundred pounds, start wearing chain mail, dying your facial hair, and calling yourself the Big Bad Booty Daddy. Nobody knows where Scott Steiner the character ends and Scott Steiner the person begins since he was a psycho backstage too. I think he tried to rip DDP's head off a few times. He shouldn't have rushed back after that car accident.
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Jul 7, 2014 01:27
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CopywrightMMXI posted:Did Brakus ever make it to TV? I think he was in Brawl for All, but I can't remember anything else with him in between the time his vignettes aired in 1997 and the BFA tourney in 1998. He was in ECW for most of that time. He made it back to WWF on the Saturday shows iirc, even got a (UK only) PPV appearance before BFA.
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Jul 7, 2014 13:03
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McStabby posted:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Tony Schiavone for bad announcers. I guess everyone is basing it off skills rather than personality? Tenay was racist (especially against those drat Orientals) and Zybysko was racist and sexist as gently caress. Tony could be petty as a personality, but he was a good announcer (especially compared with those two).
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Jul 12, 2014 21:44
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natetimm posted:Dusty is both the best and the worst announcer. He's the American Dream.
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Jul 13, 2014 02:46
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maxallen posted:The WWF also was well compensated by Caesar's Palace to run there. Also, it wasn't the hall that they run boxing out of but a purpose built, temporary arena (in the parking lot I believe) I don't even think Caesar's has an actual boxing hall. They usually ran outdoor events in the parking lots. sticklefifer posted:I was looking at old Wrestlemanias and I remember the crowd for WM9 seeming really small. Caesar's Palace only has a capacity of like 4500, doesn't it? What were they thinking with that venue? I think you're thinking of the Colosseum at Caesar's, and that wasn't built a decade after WMIX.
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Jul 15, 2014 12:45
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Lodin posted:I was just reading the thread about the latest RAW and someone mentioned that Sting has never been in the WWE/F? I remember watching matches with blonde surfer Sting as a kid on regular TV but I do not remember it being WCW at all. It probably was an early Clash of the Champions. Sting wrestled in the CWA, moved to UWF which became part of JCP, and then stayed with them as they became WCW all the way until the end. After that he never really did anything important until signing sone deal with WWE this year.
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Jul 15, 2014 17:43
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Pet Rock Band posted:What are the best Stone Cold matches I can check out on the Network? (PPVs) Austin vs. Vince at In Your House: St. Valentine's Day Massacre isn't going to be a workrate classic, but its the culmination to his feud with Vince.
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Aug 3, 2014 12:00
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Timby posted:This man lies; the '99 Rumble is dogshit. It's worth watching for another reason to hate Russo.
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There should not be a point in a Rumble where one dude is just chilling out in the ring by himself. Edit: Sorry, no one in the ring. I forgot that it was empty when Droz came in at 4 or 5. OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Aug 3, 2014 |
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Aug 3, 2014 18:40
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DeathChicken posted:Eh, it does solidly put someone like Stone Cold over massive when he's smashed so many people that he's literally checking his invisible watch for someone else to come and try their luck. Of course with WWE being WWE, they do the thing so much that it's no longer cool. That'd be great if that's what happened in '99. It isn't. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgvpu_wwf-royal-rumble-1999-match_sport The '99 Rumble basically starts with Vince and Austin entering at #1 and #2. Austin dicks around with Vince for a few minutes, but doesn't eliminate him before Golga (John Tenta) hits the ring. Vince takes the opportunity to skeedaddle under the bottom rope, and after Austin eliminates Golga, he leaves the ring under the middle rope. Austin and Vince don't get back into the ring for another ~45 minutes. Eventually Droz comes in at #4 and wonders where the hell is everyone.
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Aug 3, 2014 20:04
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Grendels Dad posted:Does anybody know what happened to Roman's brother Luther Reigns? For some reason I just remembered that thanksgiving segment on Smackdown where he is altogether too happy about eating peas and it made me laugh. After so many years Luther Reigns made me laugh. Roman's brother is Rosey, Superhero In Training.
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Aug 7, 2014 01:25
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Grendels Dad posted:Wait, you mean to tell me that Roman Reigns and Luther Reigns are not in fact related?! I always found that a bit more interesting. I don't really know which means he either retired or went to TNA.
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Aug 7, 2014 14:47
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Tir McDohl posted:WHAT The title change was disallowed on the next Raw, I think.
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Aug 7, 2014 16:17
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EugeneJ posted:Sure would be nice if we could see that on The Network! They're up to August '95 for Raws. IYH 3 was September '95.
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Aug 7, 2014 16:29
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Bjay9 posted:So unless they slip a tag team title match into Summerslam in the next week, has there ever been a PPV with exclusively singles matches like this is shaping up to be? There were no tag team matches on the PPV card for MITB 2013.
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Aug 9, 2014 17:02
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jscolon2.0 posted:I would think he's counting multi-man matches in his definition of not singles match. Extreme Rules 2012 was nothing but singles matches, albeit with stipulations. And yeah, there were definitely older cards, some of the older KOTRs had nothing but singles matches.
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Aug 9, 2014 17:20
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Swan Curry posted:Can't believe no one's mentioned King of the Road yet. It was a stupid gimmick done once. Scaffold and Inferno matches still get booked despite being absolute poo poo.  Besides, then we need to list the Junkyard Invitational, Kennel in a Cell, Doomsday Cage, Electric Cage match, Chamber of Horrors, San Francisco 49ers match... We could be here all day!
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Aug 9, 2014 20:25
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ZDar Fan posted:I was watching when it happened, but I don't remember: how did Chris Jericho and Chyna wind up being co-Intercontinental champions? They pinned one another simultaneously.
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Aug 10, 2014 02:57
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Daniel Bryan posted:nWo Nitro featuring Bischoff giving him a limo and 2 motorcycles? TNA hiring Brooke? Hiring Warrior at WCW to get Hogan his win back? Demanding the WWE championship by beating the previously undefeated Brock Lesnar? Uncensored '97 had a triple 4 man tag team match as its main event. Team nWo was Hogan, Savage, Hall, and Nash. Team WCW was the Steiners, Luger, and the Giant. Roddy Piper got the permission to form a team later, and basically did it as a shoot. He took up about twice the allotted time to bring out a few guys and wrestle with them, and get the crowd to say "Yay" or "Nay". He beat up a few jobbers, Horshu, and then a dude in boxing gloves came out. The crowd hated him, but he was the first guy who was supposed to make the cut. Piper put him on the team anyway. A kickboxer came out and the same thing repeated. (The boxer and kickboxer worked on some of Piper's movies) The final wrestler to come out was John Tenta, who got a decent pop, but was sold as a sumo wrestler. This took up 20+ minutes of a Nitro, where Piper was supposed to have like 10. It utterly bombed with the crowd, and is horribly uninteresting. They had to reshuffle the card later that night to make up for the overrun. The next week on Nitro, WCW basically said "gently caress this" and forced Piper to disband his team, and had the Four Horsemen (sans Flair and Arn) onto Roddy's team as a result.
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Meltzer posted:It was billed going in as the "Nitro you would never forget," and after the 3/3 show from Atlanta's Omni, WCW would just as soon hope to God that slogan isn't the case.
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magnum_valentino posted:What was the last Nitro that drew more than Raw and was there anything significant on it? I seem to remember the night Foley won the title as being the first time in a while that Raw went over but was that the start of their own streak or just the first of what became more instances?  (from Wikipedia)
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Diabolik900 posted:This is just an educated guess, but I think the giant dips for Raw are weeks they were preempted for the dog show and such. Fall would be tennis. USA preempted Raw for the US Open.
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bartok posted:Why was Hacksaw Jim Duggan of all people so well protected in the WWF? I swear I've never seen the guy lose cleanly outside of a few WCW matches. He was an educated college man.
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