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savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

I am listening to a podcast and they were just talking about Big Show being able to perform a moonsault and dropkicks in his early WCW days and how Hogan told him:"You're a giant,brother!You don't need to do those moves."
Who knows how true this story is?
The Podcast hosts were implying that Hogan was playing his normal games and not wanting Big Show to outshine him.The podcasters also seemed to think it would have been great to see Show performing these moves regularly.In my opinion,Hogan was giving Show good advice,even if for the wrong reasons.With Show's size I think those moves would have,if not seriously injured him then,they would have repercussions on his career longevity,not to mention his overall health and mobility in the future.
I would like to hear others' thoughts on this and also if anyone knows the validity of this story.
If someone wants to listen to this podcast it is the 6/01/10 episode of Pro Wrestling Insider.The part I'm referring to takes place around the 35:00 minute mark.Sorry that I currently don't know how to provide links.

savinhill fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jun 3, 2010

# ¿ Jun 3, 2010 05:00

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 07:54

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Mega GIRL posted:

because the knife is wrapped in barbwire

But does it explode?

# ¿ Jun 17, 2010 23:41

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

How about the Iron Sheik?

# ¿ Jun 23, 2010 07:19

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

He died at a dude's house (in his own vomit) because he's gay, you see

Is Richards really gay?I always assumed when there was a gay character it was just someone trying to get heat.Has there been any wrestlers besides Orlando Jordan who were gay IRL that also played a gay character?

# ¿ Jun 24, 2010 22:53

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

BizarroAzrael posted:

Kanyon on the indies if that counts. Pretty sure Stevie is straight, he and Crash were tight though. I mean close. I mean-

Don't know really, but I always liked Stevie, since I first started watching WWE and he was doing the Dude Love thing and some bits with Jericho and Chyna. How is his Dr Stevie gig with TNA? He's teaming with Raven again right?

I just started watching TNA at the beginning of this year and Richards nor Raven have been on TV in that time.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2010 23:23

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Can anyone remember when the last time Scott Hall was capable of actually performing an actual wrestling move in the ring?

# ¿ Jun 24, 2010 23:33

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

A Dapper Man posted:

The Iron Sheik is really from Iran.

edit: Sorry, from a couple of pages ago, but no one addressed this.

For some reason I thought he was from Lebanon.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 01:55

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Does anyone know if there are DVDs of the Von Erichs Texas wrestling program that was on TV in the 80's?

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 06:49

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Kerck Pnameless posted:

Informal Poll: Was Jericho's best material during his heel run in WCW? He called Stephanie McMahon a gigantic whore in the Attitude Era, apparently did a whole lot of nothing from '02-'05 and at the peak of his current heel run, has been incredibly entertaining in a much different way. It's just, I notice that when people talk about how awesome Jericho is, they usually say ARMBAR or talk about conspiracies or quote anything else he said in that one year on the TV shows of a long-dead wrestling company.

It was probably his best comedic material.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 06:52

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

frankenfreak posted:

Stevie is fighting the tears...

Tommy looks like he just sat in something gross.
And Raven's mascara is running from his uncontrollable weeping.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 23:01

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

What is Vickie's kayfabe role on Smackdown?I've never heard of her being referred to as a manager and Teddy is the GM,so I was wondering why she's there.

# ¿ Jun 27, 2010 09:17

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Hockles posted:

It's just added to the list of temporary alliances/love interests/angles.

Kane/K2/Orton
Cena/Mickey
Miz/Jericho

I was looking forward to the crazy antics of Miz/Jericho.
What are some of the aborted angles/stables/pushes that people were most looking forward to?

# ¿ Jun 28, 2010 01:30

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Web Jew.0 posted:

Do matches count bc Benoit/Punk has gotta be up there.

Yes.

Orgophlax posted:

When I stopped watching WWE as a kid he was still doing play-by-play, interviews, etc, but I didn't catch on again until well into the Attitude era in 99 and he was full on Mr. McMahon.

I loved Ventura/McMahon as a commentary team.They had great chemistry with McMahon as the straight man and Jesse providing humor and bullying McMahon.My other favorite commentators were Heenan/Monsoon.I don't know if it's nostalgia making them seem better than they were but commentators today seem pretty lackluster in comparison(or even without holding them to anyone else's standards they still seem pretty lovely).
Do other people feel this way?
Also what are your favorite announcers,interviewers and/or commentators;both past and present?

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 00:04

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

Not sure when, but it was years ago. Taker got his throat tattoo removed.

Best commentary duo I've ever heard was JR and Cornette. It was sublime, but it only happened a few times, usually when RAW was on a Thursday or weekend.

I would love to see clips of this.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 03:49

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Writer Cath posted:

The funniest thing was a few weeks back when Mean Gene was ripping on the new guy and the camera pans back to show Josh Matthews all over it.

The best Mean Gene is when he is actually being mean and snarky.
And yeah I should have listed Gene as a old school favorite of mine.He was a true professional.He managed to keep a straight face even when Booker T called Hogan the N-word.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 22:01

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Just reading the name Dr. D reminded me of a story from awhile back.
It was about the heir to the DuPont drug company and how he was lovers with a wrestler(the rumor I heard is that it was a Dr. Death)and he had murdered this wrestler.
Is there any truth to this story?

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 22:35

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

professorhess posted:

It is true, but it was an Olympic wrestler named Dave Schultz, not Dr D The Redneck David Schultz. He is alive and well and still married to the woman he kept calling "Woman!" in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlHO3OUnz2A

Thanks.I remember him now.I liked him when I was a kid.What happened to him in WWF?I don't know if I just missed some of his WWF career or if he just disappeared for behind the scenes reasons.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2010 23:54

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

LividLiquid posted:

In my many years of arguing against pro-WWE bias as a WCW and later a TNA fan, I eventually had to let down my guard and have one inalienable fact beaten into my skull:

People give WWE more credit when they do something stupid because they've earned a lot of goodwill. WCW earned enough goodwill to make it through the latter half of '98 with only a handful of good programs and matches. TNA earned enough goodwill in their good year to make it through their first six months with Russo at the helm.

WWE has earned every "Well, that wasn't that bad." they get when yes, it really was that bad. It was awful. But they've earned the forgiveness. They've done so much so well that they can coast along with a mediocre show for years so long as three angles a year are hot and fantastically written and the rest look like TNA and very few people call them on it. They earned that. That's where we are now.

Every wrestling company has a lot of poo poo you need to tolerate in order to enjoy the good parts.
I think WWE does get many passes on garbage that would have people crucifying TNA.
I also think TNA has been more entertaining the past couple of months.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 05:01

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Lone Rogue posted:

I find it funny that the only WWE guy who doesn't get a pass is John Cena.

Someone recently complained about Cena looking angry but still trying to pose for the crowd at the end of tonights Raw. As if Stone Cold Steve Austin has never, ever, ever done that ever. Ever. Or gently caress, as if Randy Orton has never done it ever.

I don't mind Cena.They need a wrestler for the little kids.They just make his angles so dull.

I really don't understand the popularity of Orton though.It's like WWE wants to make him into a Stone Cold type badass,but with his monotone,robotic speaking and the PG ratings he comes of boring as hell to me.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 05:12

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Lone Rogue posted:

I don't know if it is even that anymore.

He put one pretty awesome beat down on Darren Young, showed some fantastic intensity and got ripped on for simply posing to the crowd after. Like that is some petty, silly stuff. That just goes to show that people will never be happy with Cena even if he does what they want him to do, with exception to the big one. That being a heel turn, which they would start cheering him immediately for doing, which is completely against the point of a loving heel turn.

It's like the guy can't win.

I think some of it has to do with the overall blandness of WWE's heels nowadays.
Hogan had some larger than life heels to fight which allowed him to put on over the top promos and performances.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 05:22

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Raeg posted:

Lex Luger and Buff Bagwell of course

Is Buff Bagwell the least respected wrestler of all time?

I didn't like him back when I watched WCW,but that's the way he was booked.But from the internet there seem to be hints that he was a douche.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 15:36

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

All right then let me rephrase in the hope of getting an answer. Why was Ric Flair treated like this? He was only a little older than Hogan.

In the Ring of Hell book the author makes it seem like Bischof had a personal dislike for Flair and Hogan fueled this dislike and did everything else he could to undermine Flair's credibility and career.

# ¿ Jul 6, 2010 22:07

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Did Konnan get picked up by the WWE after the buyout?

If not,was there a reason?

# ¿ Jul 7, 2010 02:37

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

He did not.I don't know of an official reason or anything,but WWE could have held a grudge after they brought Konnan in years earlier as Max Moon,which didn't work out and ended up with Konnan quitting.

I don't remember Max Moon at all.Did he get any TV time and what time period did it take place in?

# ¿ Jul 7, 2010 02:59

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Lone Rogue posted:

I wish someone had that photo of Vince looking at himself in a mirror and the old 1980s Vince appears instead.

When you mentioned 80's Vince it reminded me of when he was on Letterman announcing a go-cart race between Paul Scaefer and some celebrity back when he was nice, congenial McMahon.

# ¿ Jul 9, 2010 20:56

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Beasley posted:

Who would you all say are the best heel tag teams?

Comedy/Serious?

I know I'm a page late but one of my favorites was the Freebirds when they feuded with the Von Erichs.They got a ton of heat and that was when Michael Hayes first had his "Badstreet" video.

# ¿ Jul 17, 2010 21:01

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

What was the last long running mid-card angle/feud that was successful?

# ¿ Jul 18, 2010 21:06

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Eugene Jerome posted:

What exactly is Vince McMahon's "Bearskin Rug"?

It's what he would have sex on in his office with auditioning talent.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2010 01:21

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

I think Foley was bigger than Undertaker during the attitude era. He had more promos, is remembered more for big matches and angles, and got a bigger reaction from the crowds. I think this may have been because of Undertaker's character because that era in the WWF wasn't focusing on gimmicks like his and when they repackaged him with the biker image and Limp Biscuit theme song I don't think he caught on like Foley did.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2010 06:17

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Shitty_Wok posted:

Why did they hold Wrestlemania 2 at 3 different venues?

I'm just guessing, but during that time period big time boxing and wrestling events would be simulcast via satellite to arenas. I'm thinking that the WWF may have added a match or two live in the 2 cities that weren't the main billing to boost attendance.

# ¿ Jul 22, 2010 07:14

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

After reading many threads in WH2K, I've come to find out Ultimate Warrior is a conservative nutjob that despises gays. I remember about 10 years ago some of my friends telling me Warrior was gay and he had gotten blackballed from wrestling for coming out of the closet on national TV. Has anyone else ever heard these rumors? How do you think they came to be when Warrior seems to be at the complete opposite spectrum?

# ¿ Jul 25, 2010 20:54

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

I was about to post exactly this. In a business filled with insane rumors (Macho Man raping Stephanie, et al), Warrior was head-and-shoulders above the rest.

By the way, Savinhill, did you know Ultimate Warrior feuded with this very website? No bullshit. http://www.somethingawful.com/d/legal-threats/legal-threat-ultimate.php

I didn't know he feuded with this site. Thanks for that link, did anything more ever happen with the feud?

# ¿ Jul 26, 2010 00:17

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

If TNA actually got that to happen it would be the best thing ever.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2010 02:30

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddJFLgY8UgY
In this clip Jimmy Valiant looks like he weighs 120 lbs., how did he get so skinny?
He really looks like he's ready to drop dead.

# ¿ Jul 26, 2010 03:57

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Who was the last true heel commentator?

# ¿ Jul 27, 2010 15:57

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Golden Bee posted:

Kevin Sullivan is nobody's favorite wrestler. Not his mother's. Most of the time, not even his own.

He was probably teen metal fans' favorite in the 80's.

# ¿ Aug 3, 2010 16:39

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

LividLiquid posted:

The cocky one-foot pin was sorely underappreciated in its time.

I loved that pin. I used to use Jericho in an old N64 WCW game because of that flex pin.

# ¿ Aug 13, 2010 17:43

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

sexy_trash posted:

With Serena released for "not following the straight edge life style" and reading online that "it is said that Tiffany and the recently released Serena were not the only ones who made embarrassing scenes in public."

Anyone know what happened?

Did she just get sloppy drunk in public?

Because those Kelly Kelly pee sink photos are STILL online!

Maybe Kelly Kelly is a frequent visitor to the Bear-Skin Rug.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2010 05:41

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

Talking about Booker T's WCW theme song in another thread got me thinking about the generic songs WCW used to use. I distinctly remember some of them being used in porno. Does anyone know the story behind them?

# ¿ Oct 7, 2010 22:18

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# ¿ Apr 28, 2024 07:54

savinhill: Mar 28, 2010

BizarroAzrael posted:

Some of the generic songs used by WCW were also used in porn. I think that's just it really, the songs weren't exclusive so porn makers got the rights too. They keep using Crash Holly's theme on Top Gear.

I was wondering if WCW had someone make the songs for them and were stupid enough to not copyright them. Or if they got them from some mass marketer of existing generic background music from the 90's. Considering I never worked in the exiting world of elevator music, I didn't want to just assume anything, that's why I asked the question.

# ¿ Oct 7, 2010 23:07

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