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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Golden Bee posted:

JTG is small AND flippy. Shad is large and also in charge. That's why they work so well together!
I was wikitrawling the other day and found out Shad Gaspard is the wrestler's real, full name. That really surprised me, since I assumed it was WWE SOP to give a name that can be trademarked (and more importantly, that the wrestler can't take with them when they leave - qv "Chris Chen" on TNA)

Are there any other nobodys/internally developed talents that WWE has allowed to use their real names for?

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Paul Revere 3000 posted:

There's these two schmoes called John Cena and Randy Orton that use their own names, but they probably don't have any big plans for those guys anyway. :v:
Orton doesn't count because his last name means something to wrestling fans. But, knowing what they do about Cena's rise from a jobber to Angle and Lesnar to the only thing propping up the company's merch sales, do you think they would've change his name to something trademarkable?

I'm surprised they let anybody keep their real name, after how Lesnar and Angle have jumped ship. It seems like the only way they keep it is if they were brought in as a somebody from another discipline (like Henry and Angle being Olympians, and Lesnar's collegiate success)

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


CVagts posted:

There's really no way for me to ask this without sounding insulting, but...did Sandman ever have formal training on how to be a wrestler? He was more in shape for the ECW revival in 2006 than he was back in 1996-97, and I don't remember any of his matches not being a clusterfuck of weapon spots (this worked in ECW back then; I'm just curious).
Also want to know the answer to this

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Where did the term "John Cena's Stupid Team of Idiots" come from? Was this on a show or just a PSP thing?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


As I recall, one of the few times HHH used a gimmicked sledgehammer, he legit popped out one of Mick Foley's kneecaps.

I remember this because after the refs threw the "X" for real medics, Trips came back out and kept attacking Mick to give a storyline reason why he was going away. It's the little things like that that make me love him

(mick foley that is :devil: )

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


bobkatt013 posted:

I am pretty sure Steen does not do steroids. :colbert:

Is ham a steroid?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Maxwell Lord posted:

I'm honestly amazed Stallone has never done any WWF programming.
His mom was the Commissioner of GLOW, or something.

I just watched the GLOW documentary on Netflix, and it was really amazing that they basically took actresses and turned them into wrestlers in a matter of weeks. Also, that Ivory was a GLOW girl.

They really nailed the fun and storytelling of wrestling, and I don't know that you could do what they did again today with that level of success. Really bittersweet movie without a really big happy ending.

Mount Fiji :smithicide:

EDIT: Adding question: If I wanted to get into professional wrestling as a booker or promoter, and there are no local promotions near me (Seattle), what are my options? How would I even break in?

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Feb 28, 2014

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


sleepingbuddha posted:

Seriously? I'm from a podunk town of 16,000 that has a local promotion. If Seattle really has no minor league, then you could do really well starting one, I'd hope.

We had TCW (Tulalip Championship Wrestling) which broke even doing shows out of the casino, but they folded and now there's nothing in the area. There's a wrestling school in Everett that I think does shows just of their grads as part of their training, but nothing with a gate and more than 8-10 friends and family.

Seattle might just be too smart for wrestling to take hold. Then again...

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Batista's original face turn in Evolution was pretty great. He started out as the silent enforcer in Evolution, was instrumental in destroying Randy Orton after his first title win (the iconic "thumbs down" moment from Trips to Electric Chair Drop Orton, immortalized in dinosaur form), then the slowly-growing rift between him and Trips/Haitch, culminating in Batista giving a thumbs-up to challenge not-HHH in a title match, only to give a thumbs-down at the end (a neat callback) and then he becomes a face by turning on Evolution.

It was really, really well done, and it's the last time a slow-burn paid off so handsomely.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Spikeguy posted:

I've been on a Tajiri kick with the Network. Any recommendation of matches with him at his most scheme-y?

Three-Way Dance at One Night Stand 05 (Tajiri/Super-Crazy/Little Guido) is amazing. But really just watch both of those shows (05 and 06), because they're awesome.

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Feb 28, 2014

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


You're forgetting the rambling, nonsensical and TV-14 promo about the Kansas City Crackhead that tagged along in the car the Rock stole to joyride in, and isn't the Rock awesome guys? :jerkbag:

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005



:golfclap:

I'd say Dreamer was a face for 99% of his life, but I have no idea what he got up to in TNA

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


STAC Goat posted:

Awesome won the title off Taz in a three way dance in an impromptu match on Taz's last night before he left for WWF. A couple of months later Awesome signed with WCW and showed up on Nitro while still champ, not dropping the belt first like Taz did.
Speaking of Awesome, is there an actual thing where some wrestlers just "click" and have great matches? I know the definition of a great wrestler is someone who can have a great match with anyone, but it seems like Masato Tanaka/Mike Awesome always just took it to another level beyond anything they've either done with other people.

Is it just a booking thing, how come certain people just go together?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Manwithastick posted:

What are some of the best WWE ideas dropped almost immediately?

Two spring to mind:

- WWE divas doing idents to announce upcoming matches on smackdown
- Companies sponsoring matches themselves ("this match is brought to you by....."

Love these immediately axed ideas
  • Daniel Bryan, WWE Champion

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


triplexpac posted:

Speaking of great stuff WWE dropped, they used to have this really cool prediction game on their site. You'd pick guys and they would get points based on wins, appearances, finishers hit, weapons used, etc. It was awesome.

Oh man I loved the WWE Fantasy GM game. Sooooo good. Broken as poo poo when you got 3 pts per weapon shot and had Sandman on your team :getin:

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Die Laughing posted:

""On the sixth day, God created Mankind. He must not have been having a very goodNICE day!"
Come on, man!

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


The Grey posted:

There was one fan that had a white t-shirt on, and it immediately becomes red because Spike's blood was smeared all over it.
Counterpoint: I knew a guy that went to a GWAR show in a white shirt, for the express purposes of leaving that show with a red shirt. ECW fans were probably equally devoted. Odds are, that fan framed that shirt as the awesome time Spike Dudley bled all over him.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Who is the worst 'spectacle' wrestler of all time? King Kong Bundy? Giant Gonzales? Great Khali?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Rusty Shackelford posted:

Giant Gonzales by far. I don't know why you would consider Bundy in that list.

That list should include Kurrgan and Uncle Elmer, too.

The only King Kong Bundy match I've ever seen was Wrestlemania III, and he (and that match) were real bad. He's just a paler Big Daddy V at that point.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


I'm not saying Wrestling is racist, but is there a single Person of Color who debuted in the last 10 years to win a major championship (WWE, World Heavyweight or, god help us, TNA Title)?

Sure, Booker T and Rock have been champ, but they debuted long before that. I'm talking about anyone newer. I am aware that AJ Lee, Big E and the Usos all have belts, and that's nice (though I don't think they've ever mentioned that April is Latina), but I mean a real PoC with the top belt.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Rusty Shackelford posted:

Bobby Lashley & Ezekiel Jackson were both ECW champions.
Completely spaced on Lashley :doh:

TenaciousJ posted:

Does Del Rio count?
Del Rio is also acceptable. I guess I'm wrong and wrestling is a progressive wonderland full of opportunity for people who aren't white males.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


PUNKS DIET SODA posted:

Speaking of race stuff, how many of the posters here are non-whiteys?

There are a loooot of moments that are just painful to watch as a Mexican.

You mean it wasn't exciting to have three great Mexican superstars come out to the ring riding "Juan Deer" tractors?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


AlmightyPants posted:

After seeing that the Usos got the tag titles a question popped into my mind: How many twins in tag teams have ever gone on to to do anything other than win the tag titles?

Kayfabe twins or real twins?

I think one of the Bashams was an IC champ at one point, or maybe he was just in The Cabinet.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Hockles posted:

When was the last time a non "Superstars/Main Event" type of match ended on some run of the mill move and not someone's finisher? Like a superplex or a guillotine on the top rope? I see it happen like 1/5 of the time on the late 80s PPVs
John Cena def. Eric Rowan via rollup, RAW 3/10/2014

:doh: new page

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Pinstripe Hourglass posted:

Wait, I thought that got settled? I'm sure I've seen and heard "WWF" plenty of times on the Network...

They might have done something as monumentally stupid as blurring the masters back in the 90s when that was a thing, and no longer have a non-blurred version.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


VogeGandire posted:

Enter Sandman, purely to make ONS05 CORRECT.
There is no need to comment further. My VHS copy of ONS I taped off the TV is one of my most treasured possessions.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Writer Cath posted:

If Lemmy was so close to Hunter, he'd have been in his wedding party :colbert:

Or at the very least, done a reading during the ceremony.
From where? Leaning in from the backseat?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


MassRafTer posted:

gently caress, why do I always think that match happened more recently than it did.

Yo that match is real, real good too. I watched it last year and by the end I was so into it, I was like, "gently caress, no, Bob Orton's gonna kill the streak! Not this way!" completely ignoring that a decade has passed.

Undertaker and Orton were/are real good at fake graps.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


omgomgomg posted:

Did Lawler ever mention that he was Grand Master Sexy's father? Or billy gunn mention dolph ziggler? Did either ever got upset with their children's status in the company?

Billy Gunn and Ziggler have both referred to Gunn as Ziggler's "Wrestledad" on Twitter.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Ty1990 posted:

God drat that looks dangerous.

You should see Andre's tombstone then. He gets a running start.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Solomonic posted:

One thing I do have a question about is Mr. Kennedy's "repeat the last name" gimmick. I'm guessing it has to be a reference to something - I have the Wrestling Gold collection and they occasionally do it there, too, and I remember in the first few UFCs Rich Goins would do it as well. What was the reason for repeating the name?
His full ring name was Ken Kennedy. He repeats it as a subtle joke that his first full name is not Kenneth, but Kennedy.

Kennedy Kennedy.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Vertigo Ambrosia posted:

What exactly is a stinger anyway? I've never heard the term before.

A pinched nerve in your SPINE

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


fatherdog posted:

"pedophile" specifically refers to loving children pre-puberty. loving women under 18 doesn't make you a pedophile, it makes you a super-loving-creepy dude.

Ah yes, the "What about the ephebophiles! :reddit:" defense

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Khali was actually pretty great in Get Smart, better than WWE alum The Rock who was also in that movie and not very good.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


MassRafTer posted:

CM Punk vs John Cena, That Raw Match Everyone Loves
Just watch this match 3 times hth

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Dimebags Brain posted:

I've already got WWE covered, but my knowledge of stuff outside WWE is woefully inadequate. Could I get some help with stuff from NJPW and ROH, and other Feds that fit the criteria above and happened in the past 3-4 years? Also, if I had to show him just one Tanahashi/Okada match which one should it be?
Crazzy Steve vs Frankie Kazarian, TNA !mpact 5/15/14.

Not joking, it's the Manos: The Hands of Fate of wrestling matches. It is so excreble that your friend will be able to endure any amount of pain from other shows that occasionally don't live up to their potential, just by being able to say "It was still better than that Crazzy Steve/Kaz match"

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Web Jew.0 posted:

Do you guys (or Dave or Bryan) have a theory as to why Alberto Del Rio never gets good crowd reactions? He's great in the ring, great on the mic, and been pushed to the moon. I love his douchey mannerisms and he always delivers. What gives?
The answers are on his DVD, "It's Technically Fine, But I Don't Care: The Alberto Del Rio Story"

Del Rio was great when he was Mexican JBL that killed Santa. Now, he's literally nothing.

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jul 14, 2014

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Do (or will) wrestlers have rehab matches in NXT (and previously in OVW/FCW), the way pitchers have rehab starts with the Toledo Mud Hens before returning to the main roster? Or once the doctor clears them do they immediately go on the road and add that stress to their comeback?

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Right, it just seems like it'd be healthier (and more productive) to rent a hotel in Orlando for a month and do a bunch of rehab matches in one location without the added stress of having to find a gym and eat road food and drive 8 hours a day and the like.

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


fatherdog posted:

Technically, you're not allowed to tag in unless you're holding the string. It's nominally to make sure tags only take place in "the corner".

I don't recall it ever really coming up notably.

One of the best spots of all time involved the tag rope, actually. Bubba Ray Dudly kept running in to mess with the pin/help beat down Scotty 2 Hotty or someone, and the ref said "if you let go of that tag rope again without getting tagged in, I'm disqualifying you"

Two minutes later, Bubba Ray runs in to hit a Bubba Bomb or something, the ref points at him, and he holds up the tag rope, which he has untied from the turnbuckle and is still holding.

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