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Thanks everyone, lots of great options there. I'm planning to get everything loaded up and patched before I take the machine offline. Buddy is hoping to get net access soon, so should be good to go until then.
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xarph posted:So, Dwarf Fortress Legends mode scratched an itch and I'm looking for something that has more of a game surrounding it. Sid Meier's Covert Action had a fundamental gameplay loop where you had to evaluate intelligence to reverse engineer what terrorists were planning before they did it. I’m on a phone at the moment and can’t search for it, but there is a Czech game that I saw mentioned in the Flare Path section of RPS that has you interviewing old people about crimes that happened within your own family, researching documents and so forth. It appeared to be more involved than the usual adventure game. Sorry can’t be more specific at the moment.
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I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? fwiw I like Dream Quest and FTL more than Dungeons of Dredmor or TOME4. The later just throws too much equipment and stats at you and my eyes glaze over because it all becomes samey to me.
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chairface posted:Rogue Legacy I do not agree with this. Besides being a rather violent game, one of the unlockable upgrades is "Beastiality" which lets you get dragon traits sometimes in new characters. Explain THAT to your kids.
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You can also sidestep Steam entirely by getting your games on GoG. Then you download the whole things and can play them DRM free. Also gog puts more effort into making sure games will work for your computer so there'll be less tech issues. You only really lose out on a couple of Steam's big sales and some games that only put their digital release on Steam.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Roguelikes fall into two general lineages; they're not completely separate by any means, but there are still two pretty distinct schools of thought. One is the Nethack / ADOM side of the genre which greatly emphasize knowledge of game mechanics; in their pure form these are almost puzzle games. On the one hand this can be incredibly cool; the moment when you realize you can do something crazy like polymorph yourself into a basilisk to turn enemies to stone or build a wish engine is great, but on the other hand, if you want to get good at these games in a realistic timeframe you're going to want to play with a wiki open at all times. On the other hand you have your Angband (and by extension ToME) / Dungeon Crawl sort of games which are much more about positioning, ability use, risk management, etc. They either don't have incredibly complex systems of object interactions like Nethack or ADOM do, or at the very least, they're more discoverable. Most roguelikes, and especially modern ones, fall somewhere between the two. For example Caves of Qud is structured very much like ADOM (overworld map, main quest, explorable dungeons, certain rewards only apply below a certain level) and allows you a lot of freedom to mess with broken subsystems, but it also has more robust tactical combat than a lot of the old-school games do plus it's just straight-up not hard enough to require the same level of ingenious bullshit. (Although it helps.) Anyways, really good roguelikes include:
e: Except for Qud (sort of) these are all much closer to the Angband / Crawl side of the genre; not a lot of people go in for the kind of deliberate obtuseness that characterized the classic roguelikes, in part because those games came from an era before widespread internet guides, with the idea that you would solve them as a community (in person, or with a relatively close-knit usenet group, or whatever -- but not with everyone on Earth in a completely impersonal way.) That said, ADOM is still being actively developed, and technically so is Nethack although Nethack releases are often, like, decades apart. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 14, 2018 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:You can also sidestep Steam entirely by getting your games on GoG. Then you download the whole things and can play them DRM free. Also gog puts more effort into making sure games will work for your computer so there'll be less tech issues. You also lose out on patching especially patches that drop on Steam you usually have to wait for on GoG. You need the GoG client to patch automatically as well.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Crypt of the NecroDancer is probably the ne plus ultra of streamlined roguelikes. I'm honestly surprised that Tuxedo Catfish didn't mention it, but perhaps they're biased against realtime (or, well, rhythm-based) games. On the roguelite side of things, which is to say short procgen games that aren't necessarily RPG dungeon-crawlers, there's:
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Necrodancer is awesome, I just forgot about it because I got Cadence and Melody wins, tried Aria, and went "oh hell no" and basically haven't thought about the game since.
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Thanks to both of you. I'll try a few out and see what sticks
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Check out goon-made Tangledeep. Also check out Dungeonmans. Both are excellent.
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Card Quest and Slay the Spire are different takes on the Dream Quest formula and are both quite good in their own way. Card Quest is a bit harder to get into, since all 4 classes barely function til you get some equipment unlocks.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Enter the Gungeon, Wizard of Legend.
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doctorfrog posted:I’m on a phone at the moment and can’t search for it, but there is a Czech game that I saw mentioned in the Flare Path section of RPS that has you interviewing old people about crimes that happened within your own family, researching documents and so forth. It appeared to be more involved than the usual adventure game. Sorry can’t be more specific at the moment. Quoting myself here on a PC, the game is http://attentat1942.com/
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? There's a roguelikes thread here. The OP is good, but you can also just start reading on any page and find a ton of games you've never heard of. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563643
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Been rewatching robotwars recently so I'm looking for one of those multiplayer games where you can build your own vehicles/robots where melee is at least somewhat viable, and isn't too p2w.
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Nalesh posted:Been rewatching robotwars recently so I'm looking for one of those multiplayer games where you can build your own vehicles/robots where melee is at least somewhat viable, and isn't too p2w. Robot Arena 3 should have been exactly what you're looking for but they hosed it up. Might be worth checking out but not at full price.
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doctorfrog posted:I’m on a phone at the moment and can’t search for it, but there is a Czech game that I saw mentioned in the Flare Path section of RPS that has you interviewing old people about crimes that happened within your own family, researching documents and so forth. It appeared to be more involved than the usual adventure game. Sorry can’t be more specific at the moment. Looks like Attendat 1942. Will try it.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? UnReal World, roguelike realistic survival game in iron age Finland. No stats at all beyond your own skills (0-100%) and stats, just makeshift clubs, starvation, stabbing people in the face and being mauled by bears. It's on Steam for  or even literally free from the developer's own website, so give it a try! Graphics are a little rudimentary and the game is basically keyboard-only, if you don't mind these two sticking points I guarantee you'll have some fun for the princely sum of 0$.
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Oct 19, 2018 13:46
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TorakFade posted:No stats at all beyond your own skills (0-100%) and stats I'm sure you meant something by this, but it reads like a self-contradicting statement.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I'm sure you meant something by this, but it reads like a self-contradicting statement. It makes sense in context: "the player has mutable stats, items don't."
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Nalesh posted:Been rewatching robotwars recently so I'm looking for one of those multiplayer games where you can build your own vehicles/robots where melee is at least somewhat viable, and isn't too p2w. I mean RoboCraft is still around and after getting really bad is getting good again.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I'm sure you meant something by this, but it reads like a self-contradicting statement. Tuxedo Catfish posted:It makes sense in context: "the player has mutable stats, items don't." yeah basically this, sorry posted in a hurry  you have stats and skills, but after rolling your character, you won't have to keep track of anything since there is no stat-improving equipment, no stats on actual equipment (not even damage or anything, just quality from awful to exquisite but you won't even know what that means exactly!), and skills only go up with use and pretty rarely, at that
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup is the gold standard for Rougelikes as far as Im concerned. If you want something lighter I recommend Dungeonmans.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? I've always been partial to Brogue, it's a shining star of the genre but remains pretty approachable.
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Blast of Confetti posted:I've been less in the mood to play big commitment open world action adventure games that seems to be the norm and I'm getting more in to roguelikes. What stands out in the genre? Roguelikes are my favorite genre! I would give the following games an easy A: pre:Invisible, Inc DoomRL (free!) Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup (free!) Nuclear Throne
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AnimalChin posted:This might be a strange request? Path Of Exile is working well for this.
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Hey I'm back for more game suggestions! I'm feeling like playing a western RPG and I already tried PoE 2 and D:OS 2, but while they have their merits (especially the combat in D:OS2 - I love turn based and the environmental interactions!), they really drag me down with all the strange stories and worldbuilding that I, honestly, don't care that much about - I'm looking for something more in the vein of Skyrim / Neverwinter Nights where I'm already familiar with the lore and mechanics, and possibly that aren't huge gigantic walls of text since I don't have THAT much time to play games anymore. Also I like the PnP "feeling" and immersion. Skyrim was pretty much perfect: we all know the Elder Scrolls universe by now, the story is entirely skippable, and you have that nice feeling of exploring and organically growing strong all the time but without having to put all your effort and attention to it (rather than something like D:OS2 where it seems that to get a single new skill you have to spend 50% or more of your gold) Neverwinter nights 2 was less freeform but still had recognizable mechanics and lore, and the story ranged from "who cares just kill mobs" of the original game, to the "whoa that's quite a cool turn of events" of MotB, to the "go nuts in the open world" of SoZ. Liked it a lot too. I'm reading conflicting statements on Pathfinder: Kingmaker, where some say it's too buggy and difficult (big no no for me, treat me as a filthy casual since that's what I am nowadays), some say it's been patched and is now reasonable, etc ... but it looks like the kind of immersive, PnP-like game I'd enjoy, even if just at the lowest difficulty level. Any inputs? Or any other recommendations? Thanks
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TorakFade posted:Hey I'm back for more game suggestions! Masquerada: Songs and Shadows Assassin's Creed: Origins if "familiar" is more important than "good" then Dragon Age: Origins Hwurmp fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Oct 22, 2018 |
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Really Pants posted:Masquerada: Songs and Shadows AC: Origins is not what I'd define an RPG, and I already have it (and it suffers from too much exposition and forced story, I don't care about the personal struggles of every last guy in Egypt drat it) Masquerada: I'll look into it but it kind of seems too jrpg-ish and linear rather than the good old western PnP-derived stuff where you have plenty of freedom Dragon Age: Origins I already played it a lot, and liked it quite a bit even if it felt "incomplete", now that I think about it. I remember trying the sequel and being horribly disappointed though...
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A PnP CRPG with less story would probably have to be something older, like the Gothic series or Icewind Dale.
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TorakFade posted:Hey I'm back for more game suggestions! If you don't mind old stuff, the Ultima Underworld series and the original System Shock are immersive first-person role playing games (with the latter being one of the best direct precursors to the RPG/FPS hybrid genre), and Arx Fatalis is a spiritual successor to Ultima Underworld that fulfills the spirit of the series quite well. What's common between all these games and makes them stand out even today is how much effort went into creating a cohesive environment, with physical conditions, politics, etc., that feel more local and personal than today's open world fare. Ultima Underworld also fulfills one of your conditions in being side stories based around the existing Ultima universe. Underworld Ascendant is coming out soon and claims to be a successor, but I have no clue how good it is/will be.
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TorakFade posted:I'm reading conflicting statements on Pathfinder: Kingmaker, where some say it's too buggy and difficult (big no no for me, treat me as a filthy casual since that's what I am nowadays), some say it's been patched and is now reasonable, etc ... but it looks like the kind of immersive, PnP-like game I'd enjoy, even if just at the lowest difficulty level. Any inputs? Or any other recommendations? It's getting patched every other day it seems, but I'd still hold off if I were you. It doesn't explain stuff super well in places and has lots of dialogue. You can set the difficulty to easy if you wanted to just be able to pick a class and roll over stuff.
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I'm wondering if there are any modern games like World of Xeen? As in, a turn-based dungeon crawling RPG with multiple towns and quests and a fully fleshed out world with cool dungeons and puzzles and whatnot. The Etrian Odyssey games are close but lack that open world feel(also not really puzzley). I tried Wizardry 8 but it's mostly just walking around and fighting things, with half the zones being boring outdoor areas. The balance is pretty awful in Wiz8 too, with crowd control abilities being so overpowered and enemy casters being too fast to counter.
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Spiderweb Software does oldschool CRPGs in a similar vein. They use a top-down / isometric perspective rather than first-person, but they're open-world town-and-dungeon games composed primarily of exploration and sidequests that gradually give you the experience, gear, and clues you need to solve the main quests. If this sounds like your bag, then I'd suggest starting with Avernum: Escape from the Pit, which is a remake of a remake of their first game. Which, in fairness, came out more than 20 years ago. The remakes rewrite and flesh out basically the entire game, as well as redo the mechanics, so it's not like you're looking at 90's jank here. That said, their games are really light on puzzles.
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McFrugal posted:I'm wondering if there are any modern games like World of Xeen? As in, a turn-based dungeon crawling RPG with multiple towns and quests and a fully fleshed out world with cool dungeons and puzzles and whatnot. The Etrian Odyssey games are close but lack that open world feel(also not really puzzley). I tried Wizardry 8 but it's mostly just walking around and fighting things, with half the zones being boring outdoor areas. The balance is pretty awful in Wiz8 too, with crowd control abilities being so overpowered and enemy casters being too fast to counter. The Eschalon series ticks the boxes of turn-based, not super linear, and lots of walking around and stuff to do. It is dissimilar to M&M in that you're just a single character, and it would depend on your definition of puzzles as to whether Eschalon has them. There are also a lot of "real-time with pause" RPGs that would fit your list. For example, Pillars of Eternity has really fine-grained controls for this where you can make combat almost totally turn-based if you want.
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Hey dudes any good real time strategies out there with a story? I just got around to playing 8 Bit Armies and I really love it except there's no story and it's just a bunch of goofy poo poo. It plays well, and I imagine multiplayer must be fun, but it's not what I'm looking for. I've already played through Starcraft II and probably every real time strategy came predated it. I want to get into the latest Command and Conquer games but it's locked at 30 framed per second and I just can't goddamn endure that in a real time strategy. I don't know why. It makes me motion sick. Also still seeking vehicular combat recommends 
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credburn posted:Hey dudes any good real time strategies out there with a story? I just got around to playing 8 Bit Armies and I really love it except there's no story and it's just a bunch of goofy poo poo. It plays well, and I imagine multiplayer must be fun, but it's not what I'm looking for. I've already played through Starcraft II and probably every real time strategy came predated it. I want to get into the latest Command and Conquer games but it's locked at 30 framed per second and I just can't goddamn endure that in a real time strategy. I don't know why. It makes me motion sick. Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun Warhammer: Dawn of War II Homeworld Darwinia Hostile Waters: Antaeus Rising (might also be decent for vehicle combat)
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credburn posted:Hey dudes any good real time strategies out there with a story? I just got around to playing 8 Bit Armies and I really love it except there's no story and it's just a bunch of goofy poo poo. It plays well, and I imagine multiplayer must be fun, but it's not what I'm looking for. I've already played through Starcraft II and probably every real time strategy came predated it. I want to get into the latest Command and Conquer games but it's locked at 30 framed per second and I just can't goddamn endure that in a real time strategy. I don't know why. It makes me motion sick. Grey Goo was by Petroglyph (same as 8BA) and has the C&C style campaign for each faction I think.
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