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I'm looking forward to a MCIS reissue, especially if they have any material from the MCIS tour at its 30 minute Silverfuck jammy million tour date excessive peak. Even if it doesn't have Jimmy.
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It is officially ridiculous how much of that album was live band. Full alternative takes of these monstrous songs? Sure. Why not. Unless they're just the takes that they used to layer all the overdubs over. (I remember reading Billy saying that Where Boys Fear to Tread was a live take, sure that's a short simple song...) But great to get another version of Cherry. Always thought that was probably one of the more erroneous omissions from MCIS.
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Oct 3, 2012 05:07
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chime_on posted:I've only ever had it on vinyl... are there any substantial differences to the mix? I really enjoy the first half of the album, not so high on the second half. I love Ava Adore, Perfect, Daphne Descends, Tear and Pug. I can appreciate the second half, but it's not my thing so much by that point.
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Oct 13, 2012 10:05
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I'm 90% sure Stan Getz died in the 90s. Which means Zero is probably "haunted".
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Jan 11, 2013 10:02
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http://archive.org/details/tsp1992-01-19.flac16 Here's what I've been listening to recently. It's a really poor quality board, but it's still fun hearing the band playing new material before recording Siamese Dream.
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Feb 26, 2013 01:26
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I don't know if I'll grab it, but I'm really interested to hear the Silverfuck, especially if it's one of those classic self indulgent 30minute ones, they're always fun. But the DVD is exciting, I really enjoyed the stuff that surfaced from that tour.
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Jun 5, 2013 07:13
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Yeah, the end of the MCIS tour in 97 was rad. That show on the DVD is actually a full show (well near enough, it's missing Zero) from the tour after, the '97 festival tour. But I agree, they should have put one of the full late tour MCIS shows. Complete with 30 min Silverfuck.
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Jun 5, 2013 23:47
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The only song that I remember hearing in the bootlegs that I really enjoyed that made the album was "Broken Heart" Jesus remember Chrysanthemum ? God if only that made the album. Spilled Milk was pretty rad too. I enjoyed the Zwan album but it should have been so much more.
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Jun 6, 2013 05:40
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The question is, will the Machina release have a copy of the TV show on DVD? 
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Jun 17, 2013 06:35
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But at least that is kicking around as an FM broadcast bootlet right?
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Jul 27, 2013 01:39
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That reminds me, another copy of Here's to the Atom Bomb would be great when we get to it. I think I have it kicking around on "Judas O" or whatever that best of B-side thing was.
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Aug 7, 2013 15:14
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Allen Wren posted:Judas O had the electric guitar/Try b-side version. For the longest time, though, I only had the version from the Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music bootleg, which is the Judas O version, but cut off by the end of the side of the tape. When I finally got a copy of Judas O last year, it was pretty revelatory. That's the one, and I too only had the FAEOMM version that gets cut (until Judas O). Plus the Machina II stuff properly mastered and not copied from a vinyl edition will be great. So much music to look forward to!
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Aug 8, 2013 10:55
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Just listened to the TAFH stuff. It sounds pretty great what I've heard so far (Double Door stuff). I think Billy should probably take a leaf out of the Grateful Dead's book and not put these super box-sets on spotify, instead put a compilation up instead so people actually have a reason to buy the sets? Maybe just me though.CRACK FIRE BEATS posted:"Teenage angst has paid off well, now I'm bored and old." Greatest opening track / opening line combination I can think of.
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Sep 4, 2013 05:34
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Has the End is the Beginning Is The End ever been available on a CD before apart from the OST for that horrible Batman film?
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Sep 19, 2013 03:43
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If Adore is five disks god knows how big Machina will be.
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Jan 16, 2014 00:13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNi7im2i-Y0 Ever wondered why everyone else's mics were turned down low? Here's your answer.
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Jan 18, 2014 12:13
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DominoDancing posted:I don't think they sound any worse than Corgan's own squealing. I don't like saying "Billy can't sing" because he quite clearly can sing, anyone can sing and has a great distinctive voice. HOWEVER, I think their voices don't blend well at all and it sounds better when Billy's voice has freedom to shriek wail and flutter in and out of tune. And here is something I thought i'd never see in my life: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlAT5yvwBfU
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Jan 19, 2014 05:01
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEkw7jJR2Wg Arising! Soundboard. Totally didn't know it existed! I had the 8:30 club aud I think. 
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Feb 4, 2014 07:25
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This next number is called "Raistlin's Betrayal" Aaaaoowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowow-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ooooooowwwwwwwwwwww.
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Feb 20, 2014 05:09
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http://pitchfork.com/news/54152-live-stream-billy-corgans-eight-hour-ambient-jam-inspired-by-siddhartha/ I don't know how long it has left but hey...
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Mar 1, 2014 03:53
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ChesterJT posted:It's got the whole thing archived on that link. It's kind of like something you'd see a homeless guy doing on the street, if he had thousands of dollars of electronics. It's just an audio book playing and every once in a while Billy stands up, turns a knob to make it sound funny in a different way, then sits down. Stands back up, turns different know, sits back down. Repeat for 9 hours. At one point Mike joined in with a guitar, played like 10 notes then disappeared. Mods rename thread "The Smashing Pumpkins - I don't even know what the gently caress"
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Mar 1, 2014 04:42
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Where Boys Fear to Tread is the whole band live I believe. I don't know why I remember that I think it was in an old Guitar Player or something. I enjoyed Zwan it was just a bit of a shift from the Pumpkins. Like the vibe was so different. I guess when you looked at the lineup and heard the music it seemed like there was this dissonance. It was just jarring hearing him sing about Jesus or whatever. It actually reviewed really well, it just didn't sell.
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Mar 11, 2014 10:01
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Hey MCIS only exists because it was a "gently caress you you couldn't do this" to every other band at the time.
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Mar 13, 2014 08:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4i_cu7GgCA Butch Vig remembers it as Cherub Rock but I do remember Geek USA too. 
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Mar 17, 2014 06:17
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Ie: "Of A Broken Heart" cos goddamn that was a great song.
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Apr 16, 2014 23:19
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Organs posted:People thought Zeitgeist would have that early Pumpkins sound as well. That breakdown in Tarantula is just like Silverfuck
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May 19, 2014 13:46
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Didn't Hole reunite? At least she's still playing songs written by Billy.
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Jun 17, 2014 11:24
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Man I forgot how amazing Transmission sounded.
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Sep 29, 2014 04:46
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGkIk8A0Pw Still my favorite pug version.
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Oct 7, 2014 02:27
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I've always wanted to ask Matt Sweeney what happened in Zwan. He seems like a fairly affable guy.
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Oct 8, 2014 00:15
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Ratios and Tendency posted:He's always been hopeless at picking singles. The most infamous example is trying to get Cherub Rock as the lead single instead of Today
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Oct 23, 2014 00:39
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precision posted:Well, to be fair, Cherub Rock is a much better song. And Rocket was a great pick for a single. And as goofy as Bullet and Zero were, they were released at a time when being a Smashing Pumpkins fan meant you wanted as much ridiculous, campy angst as possible, and those songs delivered on that hardcore. No doubt, but Today was the hit single for the band. In the end. Rupert Buttermilk posted:My god, this was me. Oh yeah, me too!
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Oct 23, 2014 01:39
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baka kaba posted:No, an understandable conceit, but the merry vacuousness of - yes! - generation Z, as in X, why, U... a lost generation like the generation lost to the past, of guitar heroes and sweeping grand soundescapes. So how? Now? (brown crow) Only this! Just start calling billy PISSANT or something.
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Nov 7, 2014 05:42
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Billy has never understood (at least, based on his blog posts and poo poo) that he was in a great band when the type of music he made was really hot. And now it isn't. And that's why he's super popular. It's not because he's literally a loving genius but because he was around at the right time. And now he isn't.
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Dec 19, 2014 04:25
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Yeah a bunch of worlds are auto filtered, you can quote the post and see what they are. hth.
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syntaxfunction posted:Also, I personally love Heavy Metal Machine and Glass and the Ghost Children and as a random guy on the internet I feel Billy should take my advice. I really like that other Glass song "I'll be by the pool, playing with my guns" one.
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A CRUNK BIRD posted:I was listening to Superwolf earlier and it reminded me that Zwan existed ahaha I like Zwan 
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May 22, 2016 04:55
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Gm Place from 97 obviously because it captures the full loving excessive self indulgence of late mcis tour. Their show before last in 2000 at the united center was really good with a great example of a brutally heavy ava adore. Those are the two off the top of my head.
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May 26, 2016 04:58
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There was a wave of old bands reuniting, Dino Jr and Soundgarden being the obvious grunge parallels. But the fact is the pumpkins hating each other means they never did and them finally reuniting would hold genuine interest for a lot of people because it wasnt just well the royalties are drying up maybe we should play some shows like what happened when everyone else got back together.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Sorry for the double post, but whatever, no one posts here that much anymore: It means Billy makes terrible life choices.
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