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Midjack posted:Username/post content checks out. Ha, yeah. And uh sorry for how long that got.
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LifeSunDeath posted:not a fail, cool tho Yeah, truck RC people are very much their own very cool group
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Computer viking posted:Ha, yeah. And uh sorry for how long that got. No worries, it's very interesting!
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Jul 12, 2020 03:18
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Computer viking posted:Oh, but it's worse. Jesus Christ. This sounds like trying to learn to read and write and speak is about as difficult as getting 64 bit drivers for windows XP was in the mid to late 00s
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kastein posted:Jesus Christ. This sounds like trying to learn to read and write and speak is about as difficult as getting 64 bit drivers for windows XP was in the mid to late 00s I learned Norwegian in the Lofoten islands which, I came to learn, has a very different dialect from the rest of the country. It's a fun mess.
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No wonder Iceland just made their own language that was completely different from the rest of the Norse.
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BigPaddy posted:No wonder Iceland just made their own language that was completely different from the rest of the Norse. Iceland is an island and their language is essentially old Norwegian, they didn't have all the influences that changed their language like the mainland. In fact, there's a whole committee in Iceland to keep the language as pure as possible. I can speak some Icelandic (poorly), and it is a strange one.
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kastein posted:Jesus Christ. This sounds like trying to learn to read and write and speak is about as difficult as getting 64 bit drivers for windows XP was in the mid to late 00s It's not really that bad (actually, having maintained one XP64 machine, it's nowhere near that bad) - but imagine that you also had to spend a bit of time learning "commonwealth English" (a flexible system than can handle writing Australian and Scottish dialect) in school and that one in five NPR programs were in New Zealandic. Oh, and if you worked at DOT you technically had to respond in a vague approximation of Commonwealth spelling when people sent you emails in non-US English - but nobody ever audited it. At least we don't actually have to learn Sami. It's about as close to Norwegian and English as Japanese. Nynorsk (or Bokmål, if nynorsk is your main form) is almost universally hated at school age - more work for a language we understand anyway? On the positive side, I now find nynorsk sort of fun: it's like a window into an alternate timeline version of Norwegian, and the uncompromising embrace of weird dialect forms makes for some punchy sentences. Computer viking fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Jul 12, 2020 18:30
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Computer viking posted:Nynorsk (or Bokmål, if nynorsk is your main form) is almost universally hated at school age - more work for a language we understand anyway? On the positive side, I now find nynorsk sort of fun: it's like a window into an alternate timeline version of Norwegian, and the uncompromising embrace of weird dialect forms makes for some punchy sentences. I've been learning Norwegian and indiscriminately following Norwegian twitter accounts, and it's always fun when I find one in Nynorsk because it'll be slightly harder to understand and I'll be confused until I notice an "eg" instead of "jeg".
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Ha, I can imagine. I wonder if the Spanish learners have the same thing with Mexican and European? Also, may I ask what inspired you to learn Norwegian in the first place? I like it and all (though I may have a bias), but it's hardly the most useful or culturally significant language around. 
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I know that people who learned Spanish in the US typically learned Mexican Spanish, and they have trouble when they take that to Spain. I started learning Norwegian to prep for a business trip. I wound up really liking the language and the country and I discovered that there's an American-Scandinavian Foundation cultural center between my former office and my apartment, so I started taking formal classes. I already speak somewhat-decent German from high school and the similarities between German and Norwegian have made it a little easier. The eventual goal, assuming I survive this country long enough that Schengen Area countries start letting me in again, is to explore the possibility of living and working somewhere in Europe. Safety Dance fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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I took German for some reason in high school, but I'm pretty sure at my high school in Los Angeles they taught "proper" Spanish Spanish rather than Mexican Spanish. However, the Spanish I picked up working at McDonald's was probably so full of slang that it barely qualified as Mexican Spanish.
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I went out on the town in Southern Spain with a bunch of Latino guys who spoke fluent Spanish, and yeah, apparently it's possible to communicate, but tough. Much like when we went to Northern Scotland, and it's often difficult to communicate with the locals in English, ironically more difficult than communicating with the Norwegians up in Bergen, who all seem to speak perfect unaccented English.
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I thought that if our Mexican carpenter can communicate effectively with our Brazilian subcontractors and our Polish carpenters could get a solid conversation with the Ukrainian HVAC guys, I'd be able to understand a bit of my brother in law when he speaks Norwegian with his family and that's a hard no Norwegian sounds familiar, but it's like a cipher, like every other syllable is switched with a random one
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The Door Frame posted:I thought that if our Mexican carpenter can communicate effectively with our Brazilian subcontractors and our Polish carpenters could get a solid conversation with the Ukrainian HVAC guys, I'd be able to understand a bit of my brother in law when he speaks Norwegian with his family and that's a hard no Ah so it's like english to scottish.
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Not the biggest failure ever, but still a pain to fix. That's what 360k miles gets you I suppose, and as a bonus the new head's lobes are a good 1-2mm longer than the old worn down ones.
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Wasabi the J posted:Ah so it's like english to scottish. English had the great vowel shift and being an island and the Norman French thing, so it's drifted kind of far from the rest of the family. Not that I could talk to a German without having had some classes in school, either - the only places that seems to happen is inside the German family (dutch/Afrikaans/high German/the dialects/whatever Swiss German is) and inside the Scandinavian family (Norwegian/Swedish/Danish are more or less mutually intelligible, though the Danes speak really weird). Icelandic is vaguely understandable but mostly in the "oh yeah, now that I have the translation it makes sense" way; I doubt I could talk with them. Føroysk seems like a slightly worn down Icelandic, so ... maybe? I suspect they understand the Icelanders, at least. Rumor has it English farmers used to vaguely understand the Frisian farmers across the channel a few centuries ago, too, which makes linguistic sense. Oh, and I'm a firm believer that Scottish is a genuinely separate language, which I guess would give English one sibling language with reasonable mutual understanding. See Scots Leid om the utterly fascinating Scots Wikipedia. Safety Dance: If you're in the small number of Americans who already know some German, that immediately makes more sense. And yeah, whenever all this is over, speaking the language should hopefully help you skip ahead in the queue. (Also, the american-norwegian clubs are ... I don't know, odd to me. I sort of want to visit one in the US to see what they're actually like. ) Computer viking fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Elviscat posted:I went out on the town in Southern Spain with a bunch of Latino guys who spoke fluent Spanish, and yeah, apparently it's possible to communicate, but tough. I studied Spanish academically for 5 years, but never immersed myself and all it's really useful for is eavesdropping on Spanish speakers and figuring out what to order at restaurants without having to Google things. What I do remember very well was that we spent a lot of time on regional dialects and accents, so it makes perfect sense that an Argentine speaker and a Mexican speaker and a Spaniard speaker wouldn't be super compatible. We spent a lot of time on regional vocabulary for some reason. It actually came in useful exactly once, when I met someone from Argentina and said, "Como está usted?" in a shaky but recognizable Argentine accent, and they had questions.
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Cojawfee posted:Does that mean something different in Argentina? No, it just sounds different.
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Computer viking posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvaeuaSrVm8
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Computer viking posted:(Also, the american-norwegian clubs are ... I don't know, odd to me. I sort of want to visit one in the US to see what they're actually like. ) In NYC, Scandanavia House is where you go if you want to buy kvikk lunsj and see Ingmar Bergman films (or else you work for Scania and you're trying to sell big contracts to American firms), and Sjømanskirken is a regular church that also does a 17. Mai thing and sells fiskeboller. It's really nothing special. I'm not sure what kind of clubs you're talking about
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This was shared in a discord server I'm in, I have no idea what happened here or how.
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Safety Dance posted:In NYC, Scandanavia House is where you go if you want to buy kvikk lunsj and see Ingmar Bergman films (or else you work for Scania and you're trying to sell big contracts to American firms), and Sjømanskirken is a regular church that also does a 17. Mai thing and sells fiskeboller. It's really nothing special. I'm not sure what kind of clubs you're talking about Last time I helped arrange a conference, the other group at the hotel was some US/Norwegian organisation that had arranged a trip to the old country - I believe they where from north Dakota or thereabouts, but I was too busy to really talk to them. They seemed friendly enough, but I just kind of wonder what they do outside the 17th of May and the (presumably very sporadic) trips. Waffles and brown cheese sales? Sponsoring students in both directions? Excuse to drink akevitt around Christmas? I'm aware of Sjømannskirken, but that's more of a "for Norwegians abroad" - I'm thinking more about the "our grandparents emigrated together" ones you get up towards the Canadian border.
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Rorac posted:This was shared in a discord server I'm in, I have no idea what happened here or how. That's... a brand new truck, wtf. 
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Either a Monday or Friday build.  With the way that top wheel is broken off, and the dent in the bed, it looks like maybe it got smacked right on the wheel by someone? There's other cars pulled over too (witnesses?).
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Rorac posted:This was shared in a discord server I'm in, I have no idea what happened here or how. Guy loves towing so much, he decided to tow his rear axle.
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Rorac posted:This was shared in a discord server I'm in, I have no idea what happened here or how. The all new Ford HoverTruck.
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Jul 15, 2020 11:01
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Computer viking posted:Last time I helped arrange a conference, the other group at the hotel was some US/Norwegian organisation that had arranged a trip to the old country - I believe they where from north Dakota or thereabouts, but I was too busy to really talk to them. They seemed friendly enough, but I just kind of wonder what they do outside the 17th of May and the (presumably very sporadic) trips. Waffles and brown cheese sales? Sponsoring students in both directions? Excuse to drink akevitt around Christmas? Oh, I have no idea! Kick themselves for leaving before all the oil money started pouring in?
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Computer viking posted:<Fascinating info on Norwegian languages> At least you have one or more official languages. The US has none, other than the de facto English, which, given how many people *in* the US speak (Mexican) Spanish, may not be de facto a whole lot longer. Pretty much all government forms are in both. I often wonder how that makes our fairly numerous Korean, Vietnamese, and Chinese citizens feel. Godholio posted:Looks like a Gen 1, not an LS. It'll do. Computer viking posted:Ha, I can imagine. I wonder if the Spanish learners have the same thing with Mexican and European? From what I have been told, yes. And Puerto Rican Spanish is closer to European Spanish, according to Puerto Ricans I know. Or at least, they said: "he's speaking Mexican, not Spanish!" Computer viking posted:(Also, the american-norwegian clubs are ... I don't know, odd to me. I sort of want to visit one in the US to see what they're actually like. ) There are groups for every culture here, pretty much, since we're such a melting pot of, well, everything. Just sort of a preserve some of the culture thing. There's a Greek Orthodox church in my neighborhood, and they have the *best* Greek Food Fest every year.
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I briefly considered learning a Scandinavian language, but after touring Sweden and constantly being corrected on how to pronounce "tack" and a tour guide in Iceland rolling his eyes every time I tried to emulate his pronunciation of Landmannalaugar I decided it was a lost cause and gave up. So I'll just be stereotypical Ignorant American Tourist from here on out.
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Computer viking posted:Last time I helped arrange a conference, the other group at the hotel was some US/Norwegian organisation that had arranged a trip to the old country - I believe they where from north Dakota or thereabouts, but I was too busy to really talk to them. They seemed friendly enough, but I just kind of wonder what they do outside the 17th of May and the (presumably very sporadic) trips. Waffles and brown cheese sales? Sponsoring students in both directions? Excuse to drink akevitt around Christmas? My mother stays in contact with one such group mainly to learn where to buy lutefisk each Christmas. Twenty years ago you could get it at the Safeway but it's getting harder to find. I'm the only one in the family that likes akvavit... you'd think compared to lutefisk it'd be an easy sell. By the way, it is possible to grill lutefisk, but very challenging. We stick to baking.
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Darchangel posted:At least you have one or more official languages. When I lived in Boston, documents were available in Vietnamese, Chinese, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese, and Kreyol Ayisyen off the top of my head.
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Pham Nuwen posted:My mother stays in contact with one such group mainly to learn where to buy lutefisk each Christmas. WHY??????
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I'll just say in Norway, the by far most popular Christmas dishes are ribbe (oven roast pork ribs, with the skin crisped to pork rinds) and pinnekjøtt (salted dried lamb, steamed over birch sticks). Not that lutefisk doesn't happen, it's just more of a general winter thing. And I've so far avoided having it; nobody in my family especially enjoy it. (My boss does, but generously allow us to go for pinnekjøtt instead at the department Christmas dinner. She only pays for an akevitt if you have the fish, though.) Computer viking fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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xzzy posted:I briefly considered learning a Scandinavian language, but after touring Sweden and constantly being corrected on how to pronounce "tack" and a tour guide in Iceland rolling his eyes every time I tried to emulate his pronunciation of Landmannalaugar I decided it was a lost cause and gave up. It generally works to your advantage not to reveal that you understand the local language when you’re doing extremely touristy things because you can overhear hucksters talking about their hilarious ripoffs and avoid them.
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Darchangel posted:The US has none, other than the de facto English, which, given how many people *in* the US speak (Mexican) Spanish, may not be de facto a whole lot longer. Pretty much all government forms are in both. I often wonder how that makes our fairly numerous Korean, Vietnamese, and Chinese citizens feel. I've seen some signage in the Portland (Oregon) area that includes Korean, Japanese and Chinese in addition to the usual English and Spanish. I think I remember there being one more language but I didn't recognize it (maybe Vietnamese). I don't know that federal forms and such will get more languages but locally it may become common. e: added a state Galler fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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The selection of languages of the official signage in the NYC subways always makes me blink. English, Spanish, Russian, Chinese, Japanese, and Haitian Creole It’s an amazingly cool sort of Rosetta Stone. Efb by Boston dammit
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Turns out pinion bearings really prefer it if you keep the oil topped up
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