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anyone playing with the ipad pro and duet display?
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Nov 23, 2015 03:49
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I really wish there was a super premium cintiq or cintiq alternative I could throw my money at but the free market has failed me and I've put my 24hd on a boat to England. See you in six weeks, 40 kilogram monstrosity that is slowly displaying everything redder and redder!
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Apr 2, 2016 01:20
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I wanted a tablet monitor but couldn't really afford a full-size Wacom, so I ended up buying a 19" Ugee 1910B. The 21" model seemed to review well and the 19" had plenty of glowing reviews on Amazon, so what could go wrong? try lazy nezumi?
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Apr 5, 2016 03:01
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The build quality is less than premium but sensibly done and the colours and resolution are okay for a cheap tablet, but there is exactly zero smoothing and no options to fix it. You could castrate a gnat with the edge on those pixels. What looks just fine on my two desktop monitors is a jagged mess on this monitor. Plus the distance between glass and screen is gigantic; no amount of calibration can stop the cursor and pen tip from parting ways as they stray from centre. There's also a 5mm piece of dust trapped behind the screen that's making a bunch of pixels flip out, so that's what I'll be putting as the main reason for returning it rather than "this product is total dogshit".
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neonnoodle posted:I believe that's the point of Astropad. Look on YouTube, there are video reviews of people who are using it for that purpose. neon. neonnoodle. this is very important. is there any input lag when working at max res on TVP or photoshop using an astropad connected ipad pro. Nobody seems able to answer this for me, or answers vary, or I dont trust the people giving me answers.
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Aug 21, 2016 18:54
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neonnoodle posted:I'm sorry, I don't have a Mac. you know what? gently caress it. I'm buying one tomorrow.
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Aug 21, 2016 19:32
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ijyt posted:As I understand it, there isn't input lag but visual lag, or something like that. The brush stroke can appear delayed but they have a second pink line showing the actual input and that's as close to 1:1 as you can get. Hmm, like a line smoothing plugin? heavy liquid posted:I've had my iPad Pro for about 5 or almost 6 months now, I think. At this point, I've probably used it more than my 21UX Cintiq, which I've had for about 5 years, because it's just so much easier to use, and completely portable. A project I'm on just kicked into gear so no ipad for me today, but...same question as above. you using astropad?
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Aug 22, 2016 14:28
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Krispy Kareem posted:I have experienced lag when connected via WiFi. I have never experienced lag connected to my laptop with a lightning cable. Whether it stutters on larger or more demanding file sizes, I'm not sure. I was doing some photo editing on 4000+/- pixel sized images in Photoshop and it worked fine. Your mileage may vary. Oh I don't mind a cable at all. I didn't even know you could output to it via a lightning cable! regarding the screen ratio, can't you just run each screen at a native res, the ipad as a secondary desktop? At the moment I'm on a 24hd and a 5k imac, so ratio dif don't bother me a bit.
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Aug 22, 2016 18:04
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Krispy Kareem posted:Yeah, you'd want to use a cable. Not only is latency better but Astropad really runs down the iPad battery. Thanks a million. I said it yesterday but I really mean it this time- gonna buy one tomorrow.
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Aug 22, 2016 21:31
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okay, cool. cool. I love how this feels and how the pencil works and procreate is amazing. But as a cintiq alternative, using astropad? ...no. I see what you meant about the screen ratio, now. I figured it would have out of the box "second desktop" support, but it just pushes a screen area to the ipad. It's not astropad's fault that this makes it completely useless with a 5k imac, but I cant help but feel more than a little disappointed. I'll try it out with my macbook tonight.
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Aug 23, 2016 13:29
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neonnoodle posted:Yeah I bought mine as a dedicated sketching device, not for anything related to animation. I think it would drive me nuts to try to make it work with anything close to a desktop OS. I have owned Windows-based tablets and used things like Photoshop and TVPaint on them, and it's so fiddly that it drives me nuts. I NEED A KEYBOARD. Trying to do all the stuff in TVP without a keyboard is just a nightmare. I can't get into a good flow. the frank and very real truth is that a device is completely useless to an enormous majority of creative professionals if it won't let you use the creative cloud suite. If astropad just lets me use this thing like a second monitor to my macbook, it's going to be amazing. that said, it's only now sinking in that this thing is an increidbly swish digital sketchbook. Procreate coupled with boords by animade is going to be a loving gnarly little storyboarding device. fake edit- EVERYONE check out boords
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Aug 23, 2016 14:18
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also I got the impossibly expensive keyboard attachment and it only lets you type in one position, not flat like say on a drafting table :|
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Aug 23, 2016 14:20
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Elsa posted:Apple should make iMacs pen-capable. Holy poo poo that would be the ultimate. all I want is a 24 inch retina screen that accepts apple pencil input and that I can tilt like a drafting table 
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Aug 23, 2016 15:14
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and and a 13 inch portable one
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Aug 23, 2016 15:16
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ill pay!!
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Aug 23, 2016 15:17
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im sorry for all the posting, but I thought i'd throw in my initial impression after trying it out on my macbook. I have tried to use the creative suite and TVP on both a juiced up 2015 imac and a 2015 13" macbook pro. I have been using astropad. I have not tried duet display because it essentially encodes and distorts output to the ipad screen and I can't work with that. I can't use this as a professional tool. It's beautiful and I love every aspect of the ergonomic experience, but working at native ipad resolution astropad needs to pixelize areas of activity to keep it feeling responsive. The "line smoothing" type cursor that updates in real time is handy but it's my job to draw 8 hours every day and working a second ahead of what is on my screen is frankly unacceptable. It feels like a really good remote desktop connection, because that is essentially what it is. The alternative is working in an ever-moving section of the screen, which isn't great on account of needing aspects of my working environment that I can't simply hotkey (scrubbing animations on a timeline, access to tool specific panels in specific situations, etc). If I really needed portability a cintiq 13 or companion or whatever would be the only option, as I can't operate on the ipad at any resolution higher than 1080 anyway. Procreate is really good, and it feels really nice! I'm just not sure I'm down with a sixteen hundred loving dollar sketchbook.
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Aug 23, 2016 16:59
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kefkafloyd posted:If Apple wanted to put Wacom out of business they would essentially make their own version of Astropad with native support and no lag. A USB3 connection on an iPad Pro would negate bandwidth problems. I'm surprised the lightning to usb works so poorly? neonnoodle posted:I got mine used at a really deep discount, otherwise it would be way too expensive for what it costs at full retail. Cost me a tonne 
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Aug 23, 2016 17:29
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Krispy Kareem posted:I'm using the iPad Pro on a non-retina display MBP, so maybe that's helping me on any latency. I've tried to stress Astropad, but haven't been able to make it stutter unless I'm connecting via WiFi. Sorry it didn't work out for you. thats okay, thanks a load for your input!
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Aug 23, 2016 18:01
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Ice Cream Barbara posted:Here's the new iPad competitor from Wacom HOLD THE FUCKIN PHOOOONE
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Oct 7, 2016 09:50
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dont suppose anyone knows where I can try out a surface studio in London? I don't think there's even a Microsoft store here.
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Nov 1, 2016 11:08
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dividertabs posted:What's a normal amount of latency between the cursor movement and a brushstroke appearing? Whether using a mouse or a drawing tablet, Photoshop or Sketchbook, when making large strokes I can see the stroke slightly behind the cursor position. It's subtle (probably less than 100ms of latency), but feels like something that would make smooth linework much more difficult to do. My understanding is that when drawing I should be making quick, large gestures. what are you running? some rigs aint got the guts
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Nov 14, 2016 00:19
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sure would be great if there was a single place in all of London, one of the worlds greatest metropolises, where I could try out a surface studio or a mobilestudio pro 16.
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Nov 26, 2016 14:33
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NRVNQSR posted:Have you tried calling up a Currys/PC World or two? A lot of those have dedicated Surface salespeople from Microsoft who come in one or two days a week, they might be able to give you a demo. thats a great idea and I thank you for it
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Nov 26, 2016 20:35
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my 24hd of four mistreated years is just sliding down the hill in it's ability to display an image with faithful degrees of red
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Nov 29, 2016 11:16
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oh also, i was looking at the wacom store and I completely missed the announcement of the 16 inch 4k cintiq pro as opposed to the mobilestudio? I have a hard time imagining that 4k on a 16 inch screen will be too useful for drawing in applications without scaled interfaces and tvpaint chugs like powerpoint when I have it on my 5k imac screen and not maximised on the cintiq but still I'd be really keen to play around with it.
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Nov 29, 2016 11:20
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kefkafloyd posted:My Cintiq 21UX DTK version is still chugging along, but I'm always concerned about it dying. Some are 16:10 but since moving image professionals are making everything at 16:9 and more and more often exporting at 4k it makes pretty fine sense for a screen to be designed to display media at it's native resolution and aspect. What do you want? 4:3? Are there bespoke aspect ratios?
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Nov 29, 2016 19:23
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Dell Canvas! 
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Jan 9, 2017 22:39
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MokBa posted:Huh, I never heard about using an iPad as a drawing tablet. I looked up Astropad and it seems pretty amazing. So I could get an iPad Pro and Astropad and be able to use the iPad with say, Photoshop? avoid it. I got a pro and both astropad and duet and neither are professional options. one downsizes the video out to the ipad and the other has a terrible response time. I tried as many workarounds as I could and returned the pro the next week.
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Jan 31, 2017 11:29
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when the gently caress is the cintiq pro 16 coming out god drat it 
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Feb 21, 2017 12:37
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its astounding that there are no well made professional alternatives to these devices without a computer attached, offered by a company that even remotely acknowledges their customer base in terms of product research, communication and support.
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Feb 28, 2017 12:16
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Neon Noodle posted:I'm trying to keep a good thought for the Dell Studio. the canvas? that's probably the best looking of the bunch, but I need a 27inch tablet display like I need broken glass in my dick (not at all, thanks)
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Feb 28, 2017 17:52
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fair cop but maybe they would sell more if they sat down a single loving person who draws for a job and asked them what would make a good product
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Mar 1, 2017 11:26
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kinnas posted:Is there a consensus on what's a good mobile workstation for doing concept art? I'm going to be traveling around for the next couple of weeks and the thought of not being able to get any work done is stressing me out. the ipad pro is a well made device with engaging ergonomics and a beautiful display. it is completely useless to a professional because you cannot run creative cloud on iOS. I've done the research for you on device mirroring options and they just don't loving work. The surface? maybe, man. My take on the only real professional option available is a good laptop and a mobile cintiq. Problem with this solution however is that the new cintiq pro 16 is a device that may never exist. If you can get down to the 13, go for that. There are almost no actual professionals reviewing poo poo on youtube. It's deeply irritating. Frenden is pretty cool though but I dont think he's done any reviews for a while.
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Mar 2, 2017 17:55
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I dont want to be needlessly quarrelsome but if you want to change the entire suite of creative applications you use day to day to a pretty good but completely non standard mobile os app, then yes, the ipad will work fine as a workstation. edit- Krispy Kareem posted:For a mobile device that doesn't require a separate computer, there is nothing better than an iPad Pro + Pencil. this is correct, however. it is a very compelling sketchbook replacement and it feels loving magical in your hands. what a shame it is a tablet that runs a phone os. bitmap fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Mar 3, 2017 |
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Mar 3, 2017 11:42
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drawing from the shoulder or elbow is a terribly good practice but requires a bigger canvas
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Mar 14, 2017 02:48
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it appears the cintiq pro 16 has finally become available in the US wacom store
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Mar 21, 2017 22:09
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Wowporn posted:spend some extra money on storage and ram and just make everything like 4x bigger than you need it to be if you wanna be safe no matter what yep. people are always surprised when you tell them to work at 4k for something that will only ever be 1080 and I feel like saying "motherfucker I should be working at 8"
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Mar 27, 2017 22:40
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to anyone interested: the cintiq pro 16 has become available on the UK wacom website
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Mar 29, 2017 16:36
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I'll let you all know what I think of the cintiq pro 16 that I just gutted my next three months frivolities budget on when it arrives 
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Mar 30, 2017 12:13
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Im glad I got it from Wacom because it comes with a return policy, which according to a lot of reddit comments from cintiq pro 16 early adopters I will probably appreciate
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Mar 31, 2017 20:27
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the cintiq 16 looks and feels great but the displayport cable it comes with...won't do 4k. hm.
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Apr 6, 2017 13:21
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