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Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I think you're expecting something from The Loud House that it's perfectly fine not giving. It's just a little slice of life show.

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readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Gaunab posted:

I think you're expecting something from The Loud House that it's perfectly fine not giving. It's just a little slice of life show.

I’m not expecting Shakespear or anything. I’d just like... any sort of effort really. I’ve seen so many other shows (including episodic slice of life deals) knock this kind of material out of the park. That TLH doesn’t even seem interested in swinging the bat is incredibly frustrating to me.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
I can't imagine having a strong opinion on Loud House, and that's after watching a marathon block and going "eh, this is fine"

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

My son is in love with The Loud House and I can only describe it as "aggressively mediocre." What I don't get is how there are adult fans, and yes I know that bronies are a thing that exists.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I've only seen Loud House on Italian TV, so I can't comment on the writing, but there's something about the art style that rubs me totally the wrong way. It's like a bad newspaper cartoon - 'bad' in the sense that it's technically proficient, but somehow you know it goes for the cheapest, laziest jokes possible. The show could be an animated Seinfeld or Frasier and I still wouldn't want to watch it, purely because of the way it looks.

Doom Goon
Sep 18, 2008


Frederator is partnering with Sony Pictures Animation to do another cartoon shorts anthology called GO! Cartoons (similar to Oh Yeah! or Random! Cartoons and the like but just one at a time, direct to YouTube). I always appreciated those so I'm glad to see it. That said I thought the first short was pretty derivative and unsatisfyingly gross, but hopefully they improve.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Labes for days posted:

My son is in love with The Loud House and I can only describe it as "aggressively mediocre." What I don't get is how there are adult fans, and yes I know that bronies are a thing that exists.

I think it comes down to the way TLH *feels* like it should be a much better show than it actually is. It’s general design aesthetic is strong, the voice acting is decent, the characters are distinct and memorable, and it’s got a lot of progressive elements baked into it (Most of the cast is female, Clyde has two dads, etc). It’s only when you stop to really look at things closely that you notice that the whole thing is built on a foundation of some of the laziest writing on television. If you never bother to actually think about what you’re watching (and to be fair it’s TLH so why would most people) you can convince yourself that the show is good based on these surface elements alone.

Basically, TLH is the Batman V Superman of cartoons.

Benne posted:

I can't imagine having a strong opinion on Loud House, and that's after watching a marathon block and going "eh, this is fine"

I have intense opinions on everything I consume regardless of how culturally significant it may or may not be. I think I may have a problem :shrug:.

In this case though I’m fascinated by the gap between what the show could be and what it actually is. There’s no reason TLH can’t be one of those shows we geek out over regularly here. All the necessary ingredients are there. But since no one in the writers room gives a drat it’s just... not. It’s a shame really.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

The adult fans of The Loud House are probably worse about it than bronies ever were, except they're much less outspoken and more sequestered to a few places.

Torgover
Sep 2, 2006

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Payndz posted:

I've only seen Loud House on Italian TV, so I can't comment on the writing, but there's something about the art style that rubs me totally the wrong way. It's like a bad newspaper cartoon - 'bad' in the sense that it's technically proficient, but somehow you know it goes for the cheapest, laziest jokes possible. The show could be an animated Seinfeld or Frasier and I still wouldn't want to watch it, purely because of the way it looks.

It's subjective, as I think the art and animation style is very charming and one of the stronger aspects of the show, but you hit the nail on the head with it feeling like a newspaper comic. It's the sort of thing I would have totally eaten up as a kid, but if you're looking to enjoy it as an adult without turning off your brain, good luck.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Judging from some of the commercials I've seen, the newspaper comic thing is a deliberate aesthetic.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I like The Loud House. It's inoffensive and light which is why I like it. Sometimes you just want a dollar menu cheeseburger.

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe

Gaunab posted:

I like The Loud House. It's inoffensive and light which is why I like it. Sometimes you just want a dollar menu cheeseburger.

I don't know, for the most part you're right but the show can send some shockingly :ughh: messages from time to time. Clyde's stalker-in-training behavior in particular always rubbed me the wrong way since it's played for laughs and Lincoln never calls him out on that poo poo.

I'm also still flabergasted by the episode where Lincoln's family (including his parents who should know better) ban him from all their activities, kick him out of the house, and sell all his furniture because they thought he was unlucky (for very stupid reasons). It was supposed to be funny but was mostly just really uncomfortable to watch and I shudder to think what a kid going through actual neglect would take away from all of this. Lincoln even has to earn his family's love and attention back because apparently by the show's logic being abandoned by your entire family is karmic comeuppance for lying to get out of a few of your 10k+ familial obligations. That's right, It's Lincoln's own fault that his family abandons him. But it's OK, because in the end the family says "Whoops! Our bad!" and everything is fine. Not because they treated him poorly but because they realized he wasn't unlucky after all so they were safe to let him in the house again. No lasting emotional scars from weeks of honest to God emotional abuse here! Lincoln certainly won't be spending nights awake, haunted by the knowledge that his family will throw him away the moment he becomes inconvenient. It's all good! Roll credits.

Like, seriously show what the actual gently caress!? :psyduck:

Fake edit: Oh! And for bonus outrage watch an episode of Milo Murphy's law after watching that episode. It's kind of amazing how MML takes the same basic premise but manages to make it into something uplifting about being flexible and sticking with people in spite of their flaws while TLH literally justifies abuse. It's like a perfect case study in why TLH sucks and MML is fantastic.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Waffleman_ posted:

The adult fans of The Loud House are probably worse about it than bronies ever were

Gonna have to disagree on that one.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Fair.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges
Bronies have more resources but adult Loud House fans have a higher proportion of complete and utter creeps

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Also it's that time again.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

The Ayshkerbundy posted:

Bronies have more resources but adult Loud House fans have a higher proportion of complete and utter creeps

I'm not sure I want to learn why adult Loud House fans are creepy and hated but I've got to know.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

God, not just the same show solid for a week, but the same episodes. Two runs of Island Adventures in the same day.

That's pretty heinous.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Gaunab posted:

I'm not sure I want to learn why adult Loud House fans are creepy and hated but I've got to know.

4chan

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Gaunab posted:

I'm not sure I want to learn why adult Loud House fans are creepy and hated but I've got to know.

Mostly for the porn and the sort of edgy fan art and fanfiction that most modern fanbases make

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

From my experience in the Fanart thread in PYF, there's a weird undercurrent of suicide in a lot of Loud House fanart.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


SlothfulCobra posted:

God, not just the same show solid for a week, but the same episodes. Two runs of Island Adventures in the same day.

That's pretty heinous.

Island Adventures is probably among the worst episodes of the entire series too, christ.
What is TTG 2006, is that a new two-parter? I haven't had cable for a few months now so I don't know what they show on CN anymore. Apparently things haven't changed much.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

It's 200th. As in the 200th episode.

They've been pimping it out for like a month, it sucks.

Alien Sex Manual
Dec 14, 2010

is not a sandwich

Yardbomb posted:

Also it's that time again.



Is it ever not that time, though?

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I really liked the Island Adventure, especially the songs, but just like how TTG in general is alright but gets tired if you air it too much, the exact same episodes again and again are bound to get real old if they just get repeated constantly in quick succession.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

TV made of coconut~
Remote made of coconut~
President was a coconut!
ISLAND ADVENTURE!

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

readingatwork posted:


Fake edit: Oh! And for bonus outrage watch an episode of Milo Murphy's law after watching that episode. It's kind of amazing how MML takes the same basic premise but manages to make it into something uplifting about being flexible and sticking with people in spite of their flaws while TLH literally justifies abuse. It's like a perfect case study in why TLH sucks and MML is fantastic.

I think my favourite moment in Milo Murphy with that kind of tone thing was in the climax of the first story with the Pistachians, when Milo has gone missing and the rest of the gang are fighting the Tim Minchin in the modern day towards the end - they pull out the hedgeclippers and the pins all immediately break. The mood starts off hopeless until they realise the meaning of what just happened - "What are the odds that all three would break at once? :gonk: Wait... MILO'S BACK :haw::"

I also like him and his dad's shared biases. Mr Murphy: "Snow is soft, and melts easily. Concrete is the worst invention known to man :stare:." Milo *chiming in*: "The worst...:stare:"

BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Nov 20, 2017

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
One thing I do appreciate about Loud House is that, even with the deliberately status quo writing, there's a sincere attempt at diversity/inclusion, which shouldn't go overlooked. Someone earlier in this thread made a good point about that -- it can't just be the critical darlings that get all the LGBT representation. The middlebrow, unambitious shows need it, too. And the way they go about it ("yeah this kid has two dads, and that girl has a crush on another girl, this is all cool and normal") is legitimately refreshing.

So in that sense, I'm glad TLH exists, even if I never go out of my way to watch it.

Benne fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Nov 20, 2017

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

It’s month old news now but yeeeeeeesh 😬 i just found out about the The Loud House creator being fired for being a loving creep. It’s kind of soured me on watching it for a bit.

The show’s far from perfect, but the super bouncy animation and genuinely funny voice acting behind some of the siblings made it a good show to unwind too.

Assuming it gets axed after this season airs, hopefully the cast and crew’ll line up more work within Nickelodeon

Nodosaur
Dec 23, 2014

I'm glad more people here are singing Milo Murphy's praises. I think I've come to like it even more than Phineas & Ferb.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Nick isn't getting rid of Loud House because aside from Spongebob, it's all they've fuckin' got.

mdct
Sep 2, 2011

Tingle tingle kooloo limpah.
These are my magic words.

Don't steal them.
It's way more likely to end up in a Clarence situation rather than getting axed, yeah. Continuing on without its original creator, is all.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Yeah, after Savino got fired, the article I read said they were just continuing production without him.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Lube Enthusiast posted:

It’s month old news now but yeeeeeeesh 😬 i just found out about the The Loud House creator being fired for being a loving creep. It’s kind of soured me on watching it for a bit.

The show’s far from perfect, but the super bouncy animation and genuinely funny voice acting behind some of the siblings made it a good show to unwind too.

Assuming it gets axed after this season airs, hopefully the cast and crew’ll line up more work within Nickelodeon

It probably isn't going to get canned, as it's the first cartoon that Nickelodeon has had in at least a decade that can get ratings anywhere near as good as Spongebob does

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
I'm actually glad TLH isn’t getting canned believe it or not. I wasn’t kidding when I said the show has a ton of potential so I’m very interested to see what getting in someone new at the top will do for it.

Any word on who’s taking over yet?

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

With the Powerpuff Girls special and this Ben 10 special airing right now, it feels like Cartoon Network has realized the diminishing returns of the bomb-style events, but they already had these groups of episodes written as bombs, so they just have to air them all at once as a movie.

At least for stuff that's not like Adventure Time, Steven Universe, and TTG.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
So they're finally advertising Unikitty show that hits Jan 2018 and I'm scared this doesn't work, mostly because I liked her in the Lego Movie, but I don't know if this could work as its own spin-off.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

They've shown two previews and I reported a bit earlier that the show is incredibly unremarkable. Absolutely nothing that makes it stand out.

E: I'm disgusted by how much food CN is wasting on all these 200th episode of TTG promos.

Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Nov 23, 2017

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Not to mention they are likely banking on its success seeing as how they are saying its a combo of the Lego movie team and the animators of Teen Titans Go. Maybe that will bring kids to view it if they actually loving show it,

And yeah, did you really need to buy like 100 rib roasts and so many shrimp and just dump them on a table CN?

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ConanThe3rd
Mar 27, 2009
Starving weans in Africa mean nothing to your new favourite show™️

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