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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
I have a Kindle Fire :toot: Any word yet on which covers are best, or will we just have to wait a few months to see how it shakes out?

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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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Arnold of Soissons posted:

Have people been talking about their Kindle Fires and I can't find it or has it just not been widely discussed yet?
I've been using mine pretty much nonstop for the last couple days -- do you have specific questions? I haven't seen that much chat about it either (I think a lot of people are holding out for the Nook tablet).

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
It's relatively intuitive for me, but there's more trial and error than I had with an iOS. There are some things that seem basic (grouping or hiding things) that I still can't figure out how to do, either because it's not possible or because I can't figure it out. I definitely wouldn't hand it to my parents and walk away. I went with a Nook color for my mom largely because if anything goes wrong, she can walk into any B&N anywhere and some poor employee (not me!) will patiently explain it to her. Your parents may be savvier than mine, though.

You need prime to stream the free movies and tv shows. I'm pretty sure you can stream whatever you buy? They also throw in a free month of prime when you buy the Fire.

I haven't tried to root it yet. It's been done, it's not that hard, but I'd rather wait a couple weeks for the kinks to be worked out first.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Arnold of Soissons posted:

How is it for pdfs? Is the screen big enough to really work well as a pdf reader?

Are the Android comic book reading apps available / how is it for reading comics?
The screen is just fine for PDFs. Handling is a little bit of a pain -- they go into Docs, not Books; subfolders aren't recognized; the cover is just a white blank with the filename, instead of the first page of the PDF. I expect to keep using PDFs for knitting patterns (1-10 pages, highly designed, lots of photos) but I'll probably run plain books through Calibre.

I'm the wrong goon to ask about comic books, sorry. I can tell you the Fire handles picture books (similar challenges) about a fuckmillion times better than the Nook color, but I don't have a Nook tablet yet to compare that.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

ANAL_CUNT posted:

If I have videos on my computer, will I be able to transfer them over to a Kindle Fire and watch them on the tablet?
In theory, yes. However, I fought unsuccessfully for a couple hours last night. I firmly believe VLC can do anything, so I can't believe it's converting the videos incorrectly. I'm not sure what the deal is -- it'd be great if anyone else could offer advice/specs.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Sorry, I mean I'm trying to convert the videos using VLC on my computer and sideload to the Fire.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Happydogska posted:

How are those of you with Fires liking them? There have been quite a few complaints about them in the news lately about lack of parental controls over buying, privacy issues, no physical volume controls, etc.
I have a Fire. The lack of physical buttons and the placement of its one button are kind of a hassle, but not insurmountable. Privacy issues how? I think it's incredibly stupid that you can't opt not to show things, whether it's old returned library books or porn you don't want to show to Grandma. The new update is supposed to take care of that.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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Enos Shenk posted:

The one big flaw I found was in watching video on the thing. The Fire doesn't seem to have enough horsepower to play & buffer a video at the same time, but that's exactly what it tries to do. The result is the first 3 or 4 minutes of a video is completely unwatchable as the video player freezes the whole device up randomly while it chokes in the buffering. It drove me bonkers until I figured a workaround is to pause the video immediately and let it load to 75% or so.
I think this may be an issue with your wifi speed. I've watched a ton of video on my Fire and nothing like this has ever happened to me.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Has anyone had luck getting a Kindle to play nice with Overdrive library bullshit? I can check out Kindle books if they're available. But if I sign up for a waitlist, then when it's my turn I can only check out the ePub I can't use.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Yes, and I reserve the Kindle version. Then when it's my turn, I get an e-mail telling me to look at my cart, which contains only the ePub version. That's the problem.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Tried that with no luck. Overdrive offered to do it manually but I don't want to do that every time I want a book (I'm in New York, so there's a waiting list for almost everything).

I know it sounds like I'm clicking on the wrong link, but I've successfully checked out about 30/30 of available titles and 0/10 of reserved titles. I don't think I could screw up that consistently.

I'm using a Kindle Fire; could that be the issue? I'm just accessing Overdrive's site through the browser, not through an app. I'm not sure how it was done on earlier Kindles, but presumably differently since their browsers aren't great.

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Dec 29, 2011

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
If you're complaining about basic OCR and formatting errors in legit copies, complain to Amazon and complain to the publisher. That is bullshit and it shouldn't be showing up. The big publishers I know about take these errors seriously when readers complain.

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 25, 2012

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Amazon is establishing as wide a monopoly as it can, no matter what it has to do (selling devices at a loss, straight-up violating agreements, etc.). Right now we're all :woop: CHEAP BOOKS, but if Amazon succeeds, it's going to get ugly in a couple years.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Sperg Victorious posted:

If they really wanted to combat Amazon's dominance, they'd take out the DRM so bookstores could sell to any device easily. Amazon's and B&N's DRM is already ridiculously easy to break, almost as if they designed it to be broken.

The publishers would then be freeing readers from having to rely on Amazon's store. You could buy it from anywhere you wanted. Even new stores would be able to email books to your kindle.

One small publisher already kind of does this. They sell all of their books in epub, mobi, html, and pdf formats. No DRM, you just choose what you want.

I doubt the big publishers would ever want to do that. That would be good for ebooks, and the publishers couldn't live with themselves if they did something that promoted ebooks.
Big publishers are desperately investing in ebooks, sorry. I agree they should be un-DRMing poo poo as much as possible, but the people who are most concerned about that are actually the authors. As a result, it's standard for it to be written into contracts, so big publishers' hands are pretty much tied with their current authors.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Holy poo poo, the lady behind The Vampire Diaries got shitcanned off her own series.

Now they are going to put them out, still under her name, but using a ghostwriter.

Guess it really does pay to read all the pages in the contract. That's pretty hosed up.
Where did you get this? It was news (to the extent that it was news) a year ago, February 2011.

It's not exactly as she presents it, either. Hasn't she been using ghostwriters since the '90s? She already gave a couple of other series away a long time ago.

And more importantly, I think looking at her original contract would reveal a lot. She's not signed with a big publisher, she's with Alloy, which is a packager. Alloy has people in-house that develop a book. They write up a very specific outline, down to characters, chapter events, everything. Then they hire someone to write it from that outline. I think that's what L. J. Smith's job was. I'm obviously not sure because we don't have her contract, but I've never seen a packager contract that didn't work like that. So if that's the case, yeah she was writing the characters for awhile, but it's not like it was all her material that she brought to Alloy was then stolen from her.

Mister Macys posted:

I just can't imagine writers being bad spellers, I dunno.
Have you bought a self-published book lately? All the ones I've seen have had really painfully glaring errors. I have friends who self-publish and I'm definitely including them in that.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Install Gentoo posted:

As if you publishers actually proofread ebooks either.
Hahaha "you publishers." Perhaps you've heard of Penguin? It's true, I am the penguin :smuggo:

No seriously, most publishers do spend a lot of time and effort on it. The last place I worked spent over $1m/year on domestic proofreading alone. I'm only counting the people working in closets, not their chain of command and not all the work outsourced to India or China. My current place has a better process, but also drops a shitload of money on it.

Other houses have looked around and said "well, people are buying a ton of self-published books, and you know what the quality control is like for those, so people clearly don't care about typos." This drives me absolutely up the wall, but I can't really blame them for reaching a logical conclusion.

You shouldn't be seeing typos or formatting errors in a book published by the big six. That's ridiculous and 100% not okay. If you do, complain to them or to the vendor. Everywhere I've been, those rework requests are taken very, very seriously.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Spending millions isn't a perfect indicator of quality, but it is an indicator of caring. People are saying big publishers don't even have anyone doing those jobs, when in fact they have a ton of people doing them.

The errors I see in big six ebooks are like this, obviously a formatting error in the conversion process. This is much worse than normal; I heard someone was fired for allowing that.

The errors I see in self-published books include formatting errors as well as completely clueless grammar, character names that change from chapter to chapter, contradictory details, and a ton of misspellings bad enough to throw me out of the story (at one climax, someone was chocked to death).

I'm not saying big houses are perfect (a recent book had comma splices that drove me up a wall), but imo there's a difference in quality between the average big-six book and the average self-published book. That's my opinion as a reader and a total book nerd, not as an employee.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

bull3964 posted:

You mean things like this?
Well guys, one horrible vampire writer overused a word, time to burn traditional publishing to the ground.

No, that's not what I meant.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

Mu Zeta posted:

I'm not convinced Amazon or the publishers care. I reported that this book http://www.amazon.com/Caesar-Life-Colossus-ebook/dp/B0015R3HJS/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1329834556&sr=1-1 had messed up formatting (each word is way too far apart) over 6 months ago. They gave me a refund and said they would fix it. Well I just checked out a sample page right now and it's still exactly the same with no fixes whatsoever.
It's published by the Yale University Press, which probably qualifies as a small press. I don't know anything about their policies. See if you can get in touch with a human -- find someone to e-mail, or @ their (very active) twitter.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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ZShakespeare posted:

You should probably check some other ebook stores to see if the publisher has worked out a deal with another distributor in Canada.
In general when a publisher doesn't have a digital edition available in Canada, it's because they don't have the rights (Canada is sometimes with other Commonwealth countries / digital rights are sometimes US-only), so unfortunately this probably won't help.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
No, definitely not. But in my experience, usually when an ebook isn't available in Canada, that ebook isn't available in Canada across the board for rights issues. Of course, it can't hurt to check.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
The article says Random House doesn't put any restrictions on lending, which sounds really surprising to me. If that's true, then the library could loan "one" e-book out to 5 or 20 people at once, which would help explain why it's as expensive as three print books (which can obviously only be loaned to one person at once). I'm surprised Random House would allow that, but that's what "simultaneity of availability" sounds like.

Obviously this doesn't really matter for old or obscure titles, but it would make a huge difference for bestsellers -- I live in New York and I've seen digital waitlists of over 100 people for some titles. With this plan, it sounds like we could all get it at once, which would be awesome.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Oh well that's bullshit, never mind then!

Sporadic, I figured that was covered by "perpetuity of lending."

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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Lawnie posted:

Great, thanks for the testimonials. Looks like I'll be flashing a rom for the first time this evening.
See if you can get a look at someone else's first. I am kind of pissed I did this because the kindle app really fucks with the margins and isn't very customizable. I'm sure some people don't care, but honestly I can't even use it as an ereader anymore. I got spoiled by my kindle app for iphone -- I swear more text fits on the iphone's screen than on the fire's.

e: my ICS is a little old, though, please ignore me if they've fixed this in a really recent release

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Yeah, that is bullshit. Complaining to Amazon will definitely let the publisher know, and you can also contact them directly.

Splizwarf posted:

I learned some fun things yesterday from a guy who worked in print shops for most of his life. Among other things, he complained that one of the shittiest things publishers would do is hand them something that not only needed the fixes that shops expect to get stuck with (reflows and margin tweaks and stuff), they also needed basic spelling and grammar correction.

I wonder if the deal here is that some publishers (or individual lovely editors) don't even realize their work is getting cleaned up at the printer like this, so they assume it'll be fine to drop into an ebook format with no changes.
Small presses, right? I've worked at a few big houses, and everyone would've rightly lost their poo poo if a printer had taken it on himself to edit the approved copy.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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hope and vaseline posted:

C is... interesting. A subscription based e-book service that comes with a free reader? And when they say any ebook do they mean any ebook in their library? How would they even work this out with the publishers?
In general it means that once a reader gets through a certain percentage of the book (20%), B&N pays the publisher as if the customer had purchased the book.

It would be an insane Hail Mary for B&N because even charging $10/month (minus free device), I don't think they have that kind of reserves.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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noirstronaut posted:

10 a month for 24 months is only $240 over the course of two years. What does B&N gain from this? That's like Amazon selling two Kindles and nothing else.
Market share back from Amazon. That doesn't make it any less nuts though.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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You wouldn't just pull out your phone and type in the word?

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Here's what I want to whine about: almost all of the fonts have faux (slanted) italics and it's loving hideous. This is in my Kindle for Android tablet app so it may or may not apply to kindle devices, but drat is it awful.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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It depends on the specific books. Some publishers put a lot of work into it, others don't care, if it's self-published they may not know how. If she has a favorite series or author, look up reviews just for the e versions on amazon.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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The two bullet points in that link are different from Kindle Lending Library. Unlimited reading, and on any device.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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Tiggum posted:

I just wish there was a way to make new books open to the cover instead whatever stupid place the company that published it set as the first page. Aside from the fact that I often want to look at the cover, table of contents, etc. before I start reading, I've had books skip important bits like the preface or introduction, so even if you do want to get straight to the content you can't trust it.
fwiw, this isn't decided by the publisher, it's enforced by Amazon. They might change the policy if enough people complain to Amazon, but complaining to the publisher unfortunately won't help.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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That's not really different than buying a paper copy for like $10-15 at Barnes & Noble. Someone had to digitize it, figure out a cover, maybe commission a foreword, etc. If you think that value's worthwhile, like the fake fancy print ones at B&N, you can pay for it, but if not, Project Gutenberg is awesome.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
They've released software updates that turbofucked batteries. It happened to mine, and you can google and see all the other people losing their poo poo about it. I'm guessing they did it again.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
The person I talked to was like "lol idk! Guess you should just buy a new one!" so good luck with your chat

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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
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That's something you set up with your library. You can turn off automatic checkout for titles on hold. But you can't just dibs it indefinitely when there's a list, because it holds up everyone else behind you.

Unknown wait may be because it hasn't been released yet. The system doesn't handle that ultra smoothly.

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