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nine-gear crow posted:That ice cream one was just godawful. That was the unintentionally funniest moment on the show in a long while especially after Neera tried to shoehorn in some other ice cream joke that didn't make sense.
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Zogo posted:That was the unintentionally funniest moment on the show in a long while especially after Neera tried to shoehorn in some other ice cream joke that didn't make sense. That, and the look on Kamau Bell's face after Bill revealed that "black kids need to start taking some responsibility for themselves" quote came from Michelle Obama and not Paul Ryan. That was priceless.
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Wow that ice cream bit went off the loving rails. Got him all messed up.
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Don't worry folks, Lazio managed to ruin the rest of the show and OT especially in the usual fashion---by dumping all over everything as loudly as he could. I've never seen such a smarmy, backhanded appeal to the damned voucher nonsense taking unusual care so as to not say the magic word itself lest his clever spell be disrupted. VICE was pretty good as per usual, and they definitely seem to be on track with these Debriefs on the HBO site from Ep 2 onward. Wonders never cease at the interviews they manage to land...
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nine-gear crow posted:That, and the look on Kamau Bell's face after Bill revealed that "black kids need to start taking some responsibility for themselves" quote came from Michelle Obama and not Paul Ryan. That was priceless. I found that very amusing. It also annoyed me how him and the lady kept saying that throwing money at the schools would fix everything after D.C. spends the most money per capita on school. Though I don't know if they were comparing it to states or just other cities.
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nine-gear crow posted:That, and the look on Kamau Bell's face after Bill revealed that "black kids need to start taking some responsibility for themselves" quote came from Michelle Obama and not Paul Ryan. That was priceless. Then when Bill put him on the spot and said "what is the worst case of racism you have experienced?" And Bill kept pressing the issue.
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I knew something was up with that quote when Bill mentioned lawyers and teachers. I thought "wow, that's surprisingly altruistic and forward-thinking of Paul Ryan. Normally he would have suggested something stupid and unrealistic like 'start your own buisness'. I might have misjudged--oh wait, it was Michelle Obama, that explains everything." ...Not that becoming a teacher or a lawyer are any more realistic options these days (for anyone) in this broken economy/university system.
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"Sarah Palin and Rick Santorum said it would kill their children." Rick Santorum is doing a good enough job on that count, we don't even need Obamacare's help!
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Then when Bill put him on the spot and said "what is the worst case of racism you have experienced?" And Bill kept pressing the issue. He could've pulled up the anecdote from his show (RIP  ) where he polled blacks and Latinos in NYC and found a loving 500% hit rate on Stop & Frisks. Like, every single person who wasn't white was hit up a half-dozen times, while zero whites were. That's SOMETHING LIKE RACISM, BILL! Also, this show is proof that Republicans can bring nothing constructive to any setting whatsoever. There've been a handful of episodes that were tolerable in the last few years, all of them without a single Republican on the panel. I wish Bill would either stop booking anyone in elected office with an (R) next to their name. It'd increase the quality of the show tenfold, combine that with losing the comedy bits written by the worst loving hacks in LA and you might have a show worth watching now.
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Well, here's some interesting Real Time-related news, Ronan Farrow is almost definitely gonna lose his MSNBC morning show because he's boring as poo poo, doesn't appeal to young people and his only interesting quality is "I might be Woody Allen's kid... I dunno." Ie: what we all learned about him three weeks ago when he let Darrell Issa stomp a rhetorical mud hole in his rear end.
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nine-gear crow posted:gently caress, Bill needs to stop doing those scripted comedy bits mid-show. That ice cream one was just godawful. I don't understand why a show with a discussion format purposely interrupts said discussion twice in the same hour.
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peter banana posted:I don't understand why a show with a discussion format purposely interrupts said discussion twice in the same hour. Because Bill's constantly hedging his bets between 'host' and 'comedian.' There's only about twenty minutes of real 'discussion' after the first guest, because the middle bit and 'let me tongue the rear end in a top hat of the second guest who's usually a good friend of mine' bit take up pretty much everything before New Rules. The show's basically becoming something I watch before VICE, where I can actually learn something other than a regurgitation of both side's talking points with an occasional 'gently caress' thrown in.
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I actually don't see the point in the 'discussion' parts. He mostly has on fairly well known pundits/govenment types/authors with well known, and endlessly repeated positions. Its not even a discussion. I'd rather he'd have on people without a political/TV/magazine platform to give their views.
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Chris Hayes' old MSNBC weekend show was really good about that. They'd always have labor organizers and the like on, and the 2 hour format allowed them to get fairly in-depth. The dude from Salon who replaced him is alright and they kept the format for the most part, but it's missing a little zazz.
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In a weird way, I kinda miss the old Politically Incorrect - a staple of my high school years. Part of the fun was seeing nominal celebs actually show interest in politics: manna from heaven for a kid like me. So much of current Real Time episodes feel dominated by politicians (and their pundit lackeys) trotting out the old tired arguments again and again. I get more variety in political positions on the daily show, and that's not a compliment.
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Holy poo poo. Bill's had a lot of horrible, disingenous people on his show lately, but I was honestly impressed by the Forbes lady (don't recall her name, can't be arsed to look it up). She just kept making up one nonsensical 'argument' after another and every time one of them got knocked down, she'd move on to the next (often unrelated) one without batting an eye. She made Davis look reasonable, for gently caress's sake. It's been a while since I screamed out loud at my tv... richardfun fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Apr 5, 2014 |
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ExiledTinkerer posted:Yeah, the Forbes lady with the oddly revealing outfit that the camera dude seems to have taken a shine to in OT was absolutely insufferable---though at least the other woman was active in countering most of her nonsense, even if outnumbered with Davis huffing and puffing on the lot of it. I mean, I didn't have high hopes given she's at Forbes and all, but what a ludicrous script to be a slave to in front of everybody! I fear he won't be, if the recent past is any indication. Taibbi's hasn't been on the panel proper in years.
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richardfun posted:Holy poo poo. Bill's had a lot of horrible, disingenous people on his show lately, but I was honestly impressed by the Forbes lady (don't recall her name, can't be arsed to look it up). She just kept making up one nonsensical 'argument' after another and every time one of them got knocked down, she'd move on to the next (often unrelated) one without batting an eye. She made Davis look reasonable, for gently caress's sake. By the end of the show, every time she opened her mouth and said something, Bill replied in a tone that sounded like he was talking to a five year-old. I think he's hit on an effective strategy for dealing with far right yahoos: treat them like they are literally infants.
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Yeah she was horrible. Bill's "We spend more money on dildos" joke was worth it though. And at least he shut her and Lazio down when they tried to use stupid conversation changing non arguments. That was refreshing.
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nine-gear crow posted:Well, here's some interesting Real Time-related news, Ronan Farrow is almost definitely gonna lose his MSNBC morning show because he's boring as poo poo, doesn't appeal to young people and his only interesting quality is "I might be Woody Allen's kid... I dunno." Ie: what we all learned about him three weeks ago when he let Darrell Issa stomp a rhetorical mud hole in his rear end. I watched this show once and they're not exaggerating in the least. I usually have news on in the background while I'm working, and his is the worst show by a wide margin. As far as this week's episode goes, Alex Wagner gets a lot of credit from me for not putting up with the bullshit or doing the sort of "shake your head and laugh softly while they take over" thing that other guests do. Especially good this week, because there was a lot of nonsense coming out of the other two.
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Yeah I think I prefer these feisty episodes more, that was a pretty good one even though Nas was the only guest I've heard of. When guests try to be overly polite or even worse, funny, it just doesn't work as well.
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It may be out of his element somewhat, but I was hoping Nas would get in there moreso and at least speak up with massive abrasiveness as the dumb duo continued to blast out insane stuff after he joined in on the lot of it.
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Maher gave him a few assists even. Come on man it's HBO you can say whatever you want. "The influx of guns"? Really that's all you got?
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Ugh, Duncan Hunter and the goddamned 'tactical nuclear weapons' bullshit that Maher just more or less let slide save for the "nukes'r bad, m'kay" that got shrugged off when Hunter said we've got magical zero-fallout bunker buster weapons really irked me. The B61 Mod 11, which is the weapon I *hope* he's talking about here, is a weapon system protected only by the Noli tangere cloak of nuclear weapons secrecy. Before they stopped giving details about its testing early last decade, the Mod 11 only managed to penetrate to a depth of 30 meters, which while impressively deep on paper, is not enough to completely swallow up even the *lowest* yield (which range from 0.3 kilotons to ~320-400 kilotons) of the B61's 'physics package,' which is a third of a kiloton (for comparison's sake, the Oklahoma City Bombing was ~0.002 kilotons). Oh, and that 30 meter penetration figure was on *soft* ground. Dropping it into the Alaskan permafrost? Six meters. Bedrock? Don't ask, they won't tell.  There are unclassified memos from Sandia specifically stating that the B61-11 would never be able to penetrate and destroy underground weapons laboratories given the usual geological makeup *usually* favored for their construction (that being inside a mountain or under bedrock). And if he *isn't* talking about the B61-11, he's talking about this beast, which has never been disclosed to be anything but a conventionally-armed weapon, and he's spilled something that's at least confidential and at most top secret: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_Ordnance_Penetrator The concept of a nuclear bunker buster was so loving outlandish that even the Bush II administration, who never met a defense contract they wouldn't mindlessly throw billions at, after moving from a low-yield extreme deep earth penetrator (the RNEP project) to a "gently caress it, let's make a 1-5 megaton party popper" in regards to design, finally let Ye Democratic She-Demon Dianne Feinstein chalk it up on her killboard because they knew they'd never be able to build a 'perfect nuke.' Again, for comparison's sake, the highest yield *disclosed* warhead currently in the US arsenal is now a 1.2 megaton gravity bomb) because at the time we still had these hot water heater-lookalikes sitting around the ~Enduring Stockpile~ and according to the recent opinion polls, the numbers one through five is less than *nine*, and we here in 'Murica believe in getting more done with *slightly* less when it costs ten times as much to do so: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B53_nuclear_bomb Guh. What bothers me the most is that even going into this knowing the sheer and utter disregard to logic Rep. Hunter has expressed in regards to unconventional weapons use, I found myself really liking how he came across. He was well-spoken, even if I didn't agree with most/all of his viewpoints, I think he's got a future in the GOP simply because he doesn't look like a loving decaying ogre. But all I could see in him was Tom Cruise's character in Lions for Lambs (also a GWoT vet turned Republican senator), when he has a moment with Meryl Streep's character where he gets on a crazy-eyed rant (as only Cruise can), and all but flaunts ("Do you know what we've got...what our capability is?") that if things keep going the way they're going, that the United States was going to reach into its no-no bag and start using its nuclear arsenal as the world's whipping stick. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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When I saw that Pussy Riot and Taibbi were going to be on, I thought that there may be some mention of the Exile.  The Exile is where I first heard of Pussy Riot before there was a Pussy Riot (Voina collective). I found it bizarre that Taibbi claims that he is mellow, considering his outburst at the Vanity Fair journalist who was writing a retrospective of the Exile. However, it was cool to here Taibbi speak fluent Russian. Rob Lowe exclaiming that he usually gets the right to hit on the pretty one with her husband sitting directly behind her was  .
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I liked Maher's jokes last night and that Mary Tyler Moore clip.BIG HEADLINE posted:Ugh, Duncan Hunter... I've only seen commercials for the show but he seems like the basis for that American Dad cartoon show.
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WaryWarren posted:Rob Lowe exclaiming that he usually gets the right to hit on the pretty one with her husband sitting directly behind her was "That's literally whats happening here" - comparing the Crimean invasion to an argument at a dinner party over cake. Yes, misusing "literally" was mocked, but what in the hell was that analogy about except to demonstrate how much of an empty husk of privilege he is as a human being?
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Yeah, but give Lowe some credit. He clearly knew he had no clue what he was talking about, and every time he got corrected or zinged he accepted it and/or laughed along with the audience -- apparently genuinely. That's a pretty refreshing change from most of Bill's  guests.
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:"That's literally whats happening here" - comparing the Crimean invasion to an argument at a dinner party over cake. Yes, misusing "literally" was mocked, but what in the hell was that analogy about except to demonstrate how much of an empty husk of privilege he is as a human being? It was a Parks and Rec reference, his character constantly misuses literally as a running gag on that show.
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Lowe did an AMA on Reddit (sorry) the day before the show and openly talked about the giant media tour to promote his new book. His publicist did a great job getting him onto a lot of big forums on television and off. Lowe's entire presence on the show was obviously a shill and I wish Maher would favor guests with substance as opposed to names that get him more lowest common denominator viewers.
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Guess it didn't get stickied but tonight's a new ep and it's a doozy: John Avlon a Third Way/No Labels "centrist" Republican Christine Quinn- Bloomberg's handpicked successor to replace him as NYC mayor Charles Murray- an honest to god white supremacist
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comes along bort posted:Guess it didn't get stickied but tonight's a new ep and it's a doozy: And the countdown to Bill getting so angry he curses one of them out begins in...
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nine-gear crow posted:And the countdown to Bill getting so angry he curses one of them out begins in... LOL at Charles Murray mentioning artificial intelligence casually like he thinks it's right around the corner. What a moron.
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Holy hell why was 40% of the show a bunch of 50 year old millionaires complaining about how tough life is. Get hosed.
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Pryor on Fire posted:Holy hell why was 40% of the show a bunch of 50 year old millionaires complaining about how tough life is. Get hosed. But they're fuckable, wink wink.
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