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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

got my full party and man the plot stuff leading up to it hit me more than i was expecting it to

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Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
I waffle between liking the battle theme and feeling like I'm listening to a not quite right homage to Dragon Quest music.

uiru
Mar 13, 2003

we had a good run anyway

Kiggles posted:

Thing is, it isn't even the fact it's synthetic. It's just a bad track that isn't fit for purpose. It could be the orchestral version and it would still be bad.

Mind, the Orchestral version of DQXI's track is actually fine. But a parade march is NOT cool for a track you're going to be hearing for dozens of hours upon end, and its no good for exploration. It's rigid, driving, and overpowering.

I still don't personally like the battle tracks (boss theme is especially weak), but encounters are easy to moderate these days, and bosses are rare.

Replace or even eliminate the exploration track and this game is solid gold.

Yeah, I'll have to agree. After having heard the orchestral version, I didn't think it was great, but it would still be a welcome improvement. My favorite tracks are the renditions of songs that were used in the NES games. Partially for nostalgia, but I think they also fare better with the limited MIDI voices used in making the NA soundtrack.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
Still, as the only complaint is the music could be better I gotta say this is probably in top ten jrpgs

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

uiru posted:

I wish I could turn off JUST the overworld theme, it's the worst one by far. I would actually prefer NES era chiptune Dragon Warrior IV soundtrack to this. Sounds like modding the orchestral soundtrack into the PC version is just a matter of time but those of us on PS4 and eventually Switch will be left with fart trumpets forevs.

this is what i'm waiting for, partly for more tolerable music and partly to spite the game's geriatric shitlord composer

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Harrow posted:

One thing really helping my enjoy the game is how much of a non-issue MP is for Veronica. Absorbing MP from enemies with normal attacks means I can use her spells in random battles without needing to worry about being tapped out by the time we hit a boss and that's so, so nice. I don't remember that being the case for mages in previous Dragon Quest games, either.

Really with no random encounters, campsites everywhere (some dungeons included, even), and HP/MP being restored on level up, MP is almost a complete non-issue in this game.

e:

Brother Entropy posted:

got my full party and man the plot stuff leading up to it hit me more than i was expecting it to

Yeah this game has some hard-hitting feels

ROFL Octopus fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Sep 9, 2018

Erg
Oct 31, 2010

Am I good to sell off old equipment or will there be recipes later on that use old weapons and poo poo? I’ve still got stuff hanging around from 10 hours ago and it’s starting to get annoying when I have to change equipment around

Kiggles
Dec 30, 2007

Erg posted:

Am I good to sell off old equipment or will there be recipes later on that use old weapons and poo poo? I’ve still got stuff hanging around from 10 hours ago and it’s starting to get annoying when I have to change equipment around

Can't give you a solid answer, but a few things to consider

1. Death isn't game over, it just halves your gold; don't sell anything unless you need the money immediately.

2. If you know you can buy something -or better, have a mini-forge recipe for the base- then just sell it. Worst case you can simply reacquire the combine.

3. If you need money, hit your mini-forge first, and start putting your materials to work. Gold Rings are quick easy money. 2 gold ore for 600+ (based on quality), but you can do the same with most of your materials. Just give your recipes a look, and whip up a few pieces of gear specifically for sale. You can easily pull a few grand by just making a circuit over the shinies in a zone or two. This will also give you a few pearls to reforge whatever you're going to buy.

Bruegels Fuckbooks
Sep 14, 2004

Now, listen - I know the two of you are very different from each other in a lot of ways, but you have to understand that as far as Grandpa's concerned, you're both pieces of shit! Yeah. I can prove it mathematically.

Mr. Trampoline posted:

The localization for this is really fantastic, I just noticed Michelle the Mermaid speaks in more or less rhyming iambic heptameter couplets

the people in hotto speak entirely in haiku. that must've been a bitch to localize.

Fhqwhgads
Jul 18, 2003

I AM THE ONLY ONE IN THIS GAME WHO GETS LAID

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

the people in hotto speak entirely in haiku. that must've been a bitch to localize.

Yeah I just got there last night and was impressed by that localization.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

the people in hotto speak entirely in haiku. that must've been a bitch to localize.

Knowing how it works in the original Japanese versions people of Hotto probably just had an Osakan accent

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


I just ran into my first pair of metal slimes and of course they ran away :argh:

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Oh poo poo! (Post Game spoilers!) NG+?!

Edit: It seems not quite, but still

Red Red Blue
Feb 11, 2007



Oxxidation posted:

this is what i'm waiting for, partly for more tolerable music and partly to spite the game's geriatric shitlord composer

I feel like us dirty foreigners not listening to the game's music at all is what the guy would want

Fenrir
Apr 26, 2005

I found my kendo stick, bitch!

Lipstick Apathy

Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:

the people in hotto speak entirely in haiku. that must've been a bitch to localize.

It's a riff on the DQ3 remake, where everyone in Jipang speaks in haiku... in fact Hotto uses a rework of Jipang's music. It was a really neat throwback bit.

PureRok
Mar 27, 2010

Good as new.

goferchan posted:

For all the love every minor NPC gets its kind of weird they ignore your horse considering it sticks with you the entire game and comes to your side no matter what. Give that thing a name and let me braid its mane or put armor on it or something! I can pet strangers horses but I cant pet my own? Tough love

I've honestly not rode a horse once (not counting forced sequences).

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Also, regarding the Sylvando discussion earlier. He is an incredibly powerful support lategame, especially for bosses.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
Howling with glee after landing 4x free spins in metal mode

lets hang out
Jan 10, 2015

Flavius Aetass posted:

Howling with glee after landing 4x free spins in metal mode

sometimes the game just takes pity on you. After hours in the casino I suddenly racked up 60 metal spins and got two jackpots within 20 minutes of each other

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Post game spoilers:

Before Post Game: Types of Monster defeated: x/395
During Post Game: Types of Monster defeated: x/662
:eyepop:


Edit: This is probably one of the best JRPGs I've ever played.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Sep 9, 2018

Marogareh
Feb 23, 2011
I turned off the music once I got the mini medal academy area to hear the rivers and ambient noises and man it's good.

Microcline
Jul 27, 2012

Harrow posted:

Like others have said, you can always disable Draconian Quest modifiers at any church, but you can't enable them without starting a new file, so anything you think you might want, you might as well turn on. You can always turn it off later.

One thing I'll say is that I don't think the game has a good equivalent of a "Hard" mode, if that makes sense. If playing with no modifiers is Normal difficulty, then playing with Stronger Monsters on is Very Hard difficulty. You go from random battles being not much of a threat without Stronger Monsters, to normal enemies knocking off a third of your HP with a normal attack with Stronger Monsters. I kinda wish there was a middle ground. Give me an "All Monsters Are Stronger" option to go with the existing "All Monsters Are Super Strong," I guess.

I ended up going without Stronger Monsters, but I did turn on Reduced XP From Weaker Enemies, which handily prevents you from overleveling. If you're a couple levels higher than the enemies you're fighting, you just don't get any XP at all. I don't know if I'd say it makes the game any harder, but it's a nice way to prevent making the game easier for yourself accidentally by gaining more levels than you want to.

It seems like one of those situations where the developers added a bunch of difficulty options and then didn't bother to balance anything because the player can presumably fine-tune it.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Draconian is a western exclusive.

Dashing is also a Western exclusive. Imagine this game without a dash.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Why can't Vince Vanquish be a party member?

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.
Quest problem. Gotta collect a piece of paper that was lost: "The Agony and Excstasy", newsletter Purscilla wants, blew out the window in the direction of the Eerie Eyrie. Not seeing any trace of it, no signs where it's been posted, unless some monster went down out of zone? Gonna continue trawling the nearby zones,
wanna get things done before I hit act2 for real (loaded an old save to complete things even though I didn't really need to)

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Ghosts n Gopniks posted:

Quest problem. Gotta collect a piece of paper that was lost: "The Agony and Excstasy", newsletter Purscilla wants, blew out the window in the direction of the Eerie Eyrie. Not seeing any trace of it, no signs where it's been posted, unless some monster went down out of zone? Gonna continue trawling the nearby zones,
wanna get things done before I hit act2 for real (loaded an old save to complete things even though I didn't really need to)


It's on the backside of one of the signposts, just outside the first cave if I remember correctly.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

Broken Cog posted:

It's on the backside of one of the signposts, just outside the first cave if I remember correctly.

Aw drat. Thanks!

ghostinmyshell
Sep 17, 2004



I am very particular about biscuits, I'll have you know.
I'm kinda hooked on this Slime Quest casino game now. What are the orbs you collect supposed to do?

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

ghostinmyshell posted:

I'm kinda hooked on this Slime Quest casino game now. What are the orbs you collect supposed to do?

From the in-game explanation, they're supposed to "Bring you luck" or something?
Only thing I noticed is that they significantly boost the rewards from beating a Gem Slime.

ghostinmyshell
Sep 17, 2004



I am very particular about biscuits, I'll have you know.

Broken Cog posted:

From the in-game explanation, they're supposed to "Bring you luck" or something?
Only thing I noticed is that they significantly boost the rewards from beating a Gem Slime.

I’ve got 5 orbs and haven’t seen a gem slime since so must be super rare.

TriffTshngo
Mar 28, 2010

Don't get it twisted who your enemies are.
I saw everyone talking about how absurd Slime Quest is and I thought "Surely it can't be that bad?"

lol yeah f that noise

Failboattootoot
Feb 6, 2011

Enough of this nonsense. You are an important mayor and this absurd contraption has wasted enough of your time.

corn in the bible posted:

Still, as the only complaint is the music could be better I gotta say this is probably in top ten jrpgs

It's not the only one though. I personally have serious problems with the non-existant difficulty (which is admittedly self inflicted to some degree but this was not a problem I had in 8). Also Veronica is easily the worst character I've had to put up with in the last couple of years and she gets a lot of lines. So does Serena, who also sucks but at least sucks because she is boring and not because she is an annoying character archetype combined with one of the worst anime tropes. Not even Sylvando really makes up for it and Sylvando fuckin rules.

Game's still good though.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

i like all of my friends

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Failboattootoot posted:

It's not the only one though. I personally have serious problems with the non-existant difficulty (which is admittedly self inflicted to some degree but this was not a problem I had in 8). Also Veronica is easily the worst character I've had to put up with in the last couple of years and she gets a lot of lines. So does Serena, who also sucks but at least sucks because she is boring and not because she is an annoying character archetype combined with one of the worst anime tropes. Not even Sylvando really makes up for it and Sylvando fuckin rules.

Game's still good though.

I feel like the game picks up the difficulty a bit later on, even on 'normal'. A particularly nasty pair of back to back bosses even managed to wipe me.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!
If the other DQs are supposedly better than this one I need to fuckin play them then

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
conserving mp is a lot less necessary in xi than any other dq game, but to balance that out there are no longer any 0 mp skills.

ghostinmyshell
Sep 17, 2004



I am very particular about biscuits, I'll have you know.

ghostinmyshell posted:

I’ve got 5 orbs and haven’t seen a gem slime since so must be super rare.

I got them all, and spent another 45 mins and nothing amazing was happening that I noticed anyway. Slime Quest is good for passive positive token earning if you don't mind re-enabling auto rolling while you are busy for something else.

I earned all my real money in slots.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
I made my token fortune in poker once I realized that the double up game cheats in your favor in that it always seems to deal at least one card that will beat the card you're up against. Double up grinding is easy tokens.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Nep-Nep posted:

I made my token fortune in poker once I realized that the double up game cheats in your favor in that it always seems to deal at least one card that will beat the card you're up against. Double up grinding is easy tokens.

Yeah with double or nothing you can make a pretty successful profit off just two pairs or three of a kind. It’s p nuts.

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Erg
Oct 31, 2010

Failboattootoot posted:

It's not the only one though. I personally have serious problems with the non-existant difficulty (which is admittedly self inflicted to some degree but this was not a problem I had in 8). Also Veronica is easily the worst character I've had to put up with in the last couple of years and she gets a lot of lines. So does Serena, who also sucks but at least sucks because she is boring and not because she is an annoying character archetype combined with one of the worst anime tropes. Not even Sylvando really makes up for it and Sylvando fuckin rules.

Game's still good though.

Veronica’s dominant personality traits being strong sense of justice and ANGRY, owns actually

Like yeah, she’s super blustery but she’s also the moral compass of the party, and balances out the extreme amounts of chill Serena has.

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