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In It For The Tank posted:That has been said and I don't buy it at all. He (or rather Ymir) chucked a barrage of rocks at their plane as they approached and tried to snipe them out of the air before they even got the chance to fight. How is that any better than taking way their ability to transform? I don't think Ymir is going to be trapped again win or lose.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2021 03:24 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 14:07 |
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mightygerm posted:There is the disconnect between Eren's stated motivations, actual? motivations and actions this entire arc. I mean the most obvious and likely answer is "The vision of the future he saw required the Rumbling to be started and then fail to assure the outcome he wanted". The most likely answer is that them killing Eren helps temper the world's anger enough that the island doesn't get glassed.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2021 03:44 |
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Ethiser posted:It’s kind of crazy to me that this story about people constantly struggling against the unfairness and unjustness of their situations could end on a positive note because the main character learned that accepting his cruel fate and not deviating from it was the right thing to do. I mean that doesn't seem accurate. Eren's goal from the start has been to save Mikasa and Armin, which implies the expected outcome was both of them dying. Eren even in full-on murderbabymode seems entirely likely to be someone who would accept a personal sacrifice to save others so it is very likely that the Rumbling as it is happening *is* a deviation from the expected end.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2021 05:01 |
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Wellwinds posted:I could almost see this ending with wormkill not changing everyone back; eren gets the twisted achievement of creating the empty world that he dreamed of exploring as a child and the setting becomes what it initially looked like with paradis being a lone point of civilization surrounded by titans. Instead of discovering what apocalypse happened the series was about following it in real time. The issue there is that Titans are explicitly a nonthreat on their own. The people of Paradis basically just tricked them all into giant guillotines once they weren't being intentionally crippled by the rulers of the country and their effectiveness as weapons was rapidly diminishing. The Rumbling was a threat because it was an army of nearly unstoppable giant behemoths being guided by a demigod. Even if you assumed that every single person left who is capable of turning into a Titan did turn into a Titan that isn't really going to stop the solution of "make a really loving big trap and let them smash themselves against it" being viable.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2021 02:46 |
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serious gaylord posted:I mean we're assuming Isayama is actually going to tie all this stuff up. He could have just forgotten about Historia at this point. I am pretty sure he did not forget about a character who has appeared in recent chapters. There's nothing saying she'll get any sort of satisfying resolution but she's not going to just not appear again.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2021 22:06 |
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I am sad that "Thank you for becoming a mass murderer for our sake" is too spoiler to be a title because that like made me die laughing.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 01:57 |
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comedyblissoption posted:imagining someone actually writing a story that gives hitler a sympathetic lelouch ending and lmaoing Look, he HAD to murder all those children for reasons but since MIkasa might date someone else he's really sad about it.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 02:03 |
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Marluxia posted:Eren said he was giving Connie his mom back and the titans in that area turned back into humans, does that mean the colossal titans in the middle of the ocean just turned back into people and they're now drowning in the middle of the ocean Honestly "All the Titans turned back into Humans" is *really* a thing that deserved some screentime since based off what we know some of them are probably hundreds of years old minimum.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 02:50 |
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Nuebot posted:I'd like to state that it's fun how much like Tokyo Ghoul, another series that thrived on its raw edge and grim "anyone can die at any time" nature, this series ended with a really toothless ending that celebrated its edgy boy protagonist and made sure to just be as middle ground happy ending as it could. I mean to give AoT credit at least I can remember the cast while 80% of Tokyo Ghoul's ending was me going "wait, who is this again? Why should I care about them?"
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 03:08 |
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I think the actual point of it was to underline how far Eren was willing to go to the point where he would be personally responsible for the horrific action that set him down this path in the first place. It's pretty drat pointless though since no time is given to dwell on it.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2021 03:51 |
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hatty posted:I don’t get why Eren said he doesn’t know why he wants to do the rumble when we got a pretty good look at his motives in 130 and 131. Did he want to lie to Armin so he wouldn’t think he influenced him? The impression I got is that Eren threw out a lot of justifications for an act that, at the end of the day, boiled down to "I am really really angry and wanted to hurt people." Whatever his stated motivations were at the end of the day he was a broken hosed up kid who wanted to save his friends and hurt everyone else.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 06:17 |
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Strawberry Pyramid posted:Release the Ishiyama Cut, you cowards. Nah, Eren wanted to be in something like Tokyo Ghoul. Annie wanted to be in a boxing manga.
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# ¿ Apr 10, 2021 07:04 |
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Tenkaris posted:The bird that randomly decided to adjust a girl’s scarf? It is pretty bluntly symbolic and not "Eren literally found a way to transfer his brain into a bird, where he now lives."
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2021 17:46 |
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I think it's pretty uncomfortable for a character to have a lesbian romance and then once that romance is killed (offscreen) to do literally nothing but sit around pregnant and marry the equivalent of a faceless video game NPC. Bisexual people exist but even for a bisexual person "Yep. Knocked up. Not going to be doing any of that important 'story' stuff now, just an object with no coherent narrative or plot of my own that doesn't revolve around my womb."
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# ¿ Apr 17, 2021 21:54 |
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I understand a log of criticisms of the ending but I don't believe literally any point of the ending tries to imply the sudden Nazification of the island folk is a good thing considering literally every single character with a name is basically trying to find a resolve the situation without bloodshed, not cheering it on. Trying to imply it is remotely displayed as a good thing involves a whole lot of struggle. The forgiveness of Eren is more eeeeh but still.
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# ¿ Apr 24, 2021 20:35 |
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Thank you Rep. Gosar for comitting mass murder for us.
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 02:21 |
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RatHat posted:I was more asking about the “inspired fortress fascists and school shooters a whole continent away.” part I assume the former is referring to the now deleted tweet
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2021 23:15 |
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As a counterpoint I juat had someone print out a self made manga where a bunch of people dressed as AoT characters beat up Donald Trump so it ain't on one side of the political spectrum
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 19:11 |
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Pththya-lyi posted:I, for one, do not think we should cede cool things to fascists What does that have to do with AoT?
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2021 20:03 |
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Paper Lion posted:genocides dont have to wipe out every single member of their target to be successful, or to be classed genocides. unless you want to argue what happened in armenia or rwanda or the holocaust as "not genocides" in which case, idk what to tell you ATTEMPTED Genocide. They don't give out the Nobel Prize for ATTEMPTED Chemistry, do they?
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# ¿ Nov 12, 2021 04:10 |
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I suspect any change would probably be something designed to make Eren come out better in the long run. Like the Rumbling is stopped relatively quickly but it was all a plan to lure out the giant worm and killing the worm destroys the Titans and Eren did a horrible thing that freed humanity from the curse of the Titans and yada yada the end with a peace treaty or something. I think that would suck almost as hard as the current ending but would be the kind of sap that would make people upset about the fact that Eren was a baddie happy.
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# ¿ Jan 12, 2022 00:49 |
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I feel like the only way it makes sense is if it is Eren just saying something based off his visions that is probably not fully accurate because the Attack Titan isn't giving him perfect prophecy and omnipotence of all situations.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2022 03:41 |
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Schwarzwald posted:If I was going to buy an AoT chair, that wouldn't be the one. Holding out for the Zachary chair, huh?
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2022 22:29 |
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chiasaur11 posted:Attack on Titan fans who hate the ending are speculating on if the anime will have a different ending, writing fan comics, and getting into arguments about the themes with people who like the ending. You do know that GoT is a book series too right? And all that same stuff is still happening since the series is unfinished
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2022 14:39 |
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Lady Gagazula posted:I went into the latest episode hoping to see Levi interact with the clown. Levi then proceeded to interact with the clown and it was amazing. Eren turned into a tree, not a flock of seagulls.
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2022 23:10 |
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https://animesenpai.net/attack-on-titan-author-felt-upset-that-there-was-criticism-on-the-last-chapter-manga-editor/ Jesus, no wonder the ending was such a mess.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 14:40 |
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MorningMoon posted:https://twitter.com/yugiohtas/status/1634237095077347329 The Hulk and Eren are the same character
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2023 18:49 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 14:07 |
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Jiro posted:I shouldn't have watched those last two episodes. This series always left a bad taste in my mouth despite how good the tension and art was. I assume, based off the new ending, that it is more akin to "You can't actually solve your problems by killing everyone who you blame for them, any atrocity you try to self-justify isn't going to be the end of the story, just the next step in a cycle of oppression and hatred." You can't really solve problems by killing, you just create new problems down the line.
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2023 07:04 |