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Dog Kisser
Mar 30, 2005

But People have fears that beasts do not. Questions, too.


Puppies are dicks posted:

With a side order of crazy time travel shenanigans and aliens too if you're playing it right. Game concept sounds neat though.

Arrrthritis posted:

I think it looks pretty cool, bud. Go for it!

Alright, glad to hear there's at least some interest! Take a look at the character creation excel file in my post - I need testers to try to break it so I can semi balance before release.

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SALT CURES HAM
Jan 3, 2011


Hey, er, could Zorak or Winson rename my FAE JoJo thread and add "(Recruitment/OOC)" to the end of the title? It got a little unwieldy in the signup phase (and would get even more unwieldy if I don't split it) and I want to make another thread for the actual game.

SALT CURES HAM fucked around with this message at Jun 3, 2014 around 22:49

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014

We can't stop here! This is cat country!


Ooo, Coronet City Homicide just brought crane operation into the mix.

I work at a crane training/certification institute and I handle them at least two days a month, particularly boom trucks and 45 ton mobile cranes; just today I packed up a truck-mounted telescopic boom crane before practical exams tomorrow. I'm hoping everything gets portrayed well.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Seebach's Nemesis


chitoryu12 posted:

Ooo, Coronet City Homicide just brought crane operation into the mix.

I work at a crane training/certification institute and I handle them at least two days a month, particularly boom trucks and 45 ton mobile cranes; just today I packed up a truck-mounted telescopic boom crane before practical exams tomorrow. I'm hoping everything gets portrayed well.

It's a Star Wars roleplaying game. It's a space elfgame. If you are looking at it expecting full accuracy about your menial job's minor rituals and small items, you are a) really overshooting it and b) being the kind of "realism" idiot no one wants to play with.

bongwizzard
May 19, 2005

Then one day I meet a man,
He came to me and said,
"Hard work good and hard work fine,
but first take care of head"

Grimey Drawer

Arivia posted:

It's a Star Wars roleplaying game. It's a space elfgame. If you are looking at it expecting full accuracy about your menial job's minor rituals and small items, you are a) really overshooting it and b) being the kind of "realism" idiot no one wants to play with.

If the players aren't forced to act this stuff out:



You might as well just play checkers.

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014

We can't stop here! This is cat country!


Arivia posted:

It's a Star Wars roleplaying game. It's a space elfgame. If you are looking at it expecting full accuracy about your menial job's minor rituals and small items, you are a) really overshooting it and b) being the kind of "realism" idiot no one wants to play with.

Dude, the only thing I was expecting was that the GM wouldn't make boneheaded decisions and would treat the subject matter as well as he's treated the rest of the material in his game.

But seriously, "menial job"? More than just being insulting, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

grassy gnoll
Aug 27, 2006

The pawsting business is tough work.

Fan of Britches

I'm angry! Angry about cranes!!!

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


Man I wish I could do my day job in my games. Who needs escapist fantasy, I just want to work for free!

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Seebach's Nemesis


chitoryu12 posted:

Dude, the only thing I was expecting was that the GM wouldn't make boneheaded decisions and would treat the subject matter as well as he's treated the rest of the material in his game.

But seriously, "menial job"? More than just being insulting, you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

"Treat the subject matter as well as he's treated everything else." Cranes are not space elves, I am not sure how hard this is to understand. Unless the game turns out to be a hidden ad for an iOS crane simulator, the crane is window dressing.

But then again, it's not very surprising you can't separate the two, since your own super-realistic misery porn recruit (missing rules for cranes, you may want to go back and fix this obvious, essential gap) included a gunplay house rule solely to reinforce racist stereotypes of black youth. I guess cranes and fantasy are the same thing to you, after all.

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


Hi if the Peanut Gallery could roll back the personal attacks it would be great. Having worked some construction and a lot of warehouse work in my callow youth, I will suggest crane operation is a fairly skilled profession and calling it menial is out of line. That said, unless it is Bob the Builder's RPG I doubt you need more than a skill roll to do whatever it is that is needed with a crane. I would imagine Star Wars would have repulsor cranes or some poo poo.

Anyhoo, stop being jerks.

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014

We can't stop here! This is cat country!


quote:

included a gunplay house rule solely to reinforce racist stereotypes of black youth

....wait, what?

What the hell is this even talking about?

Edit: Do you mean the Gangsta Style rule? That's a rule taken from a pulp sourcebook related to the Chinese horizontal firing technique for the Mauser C96 with a common modern slang term attached.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2014 around 01:26

Tempus Rimeblood
Sep 23, 2007

...Friendship? Again?

Yeah, but within the vernacular it can be construed as a dig at certain cultures (i.e. the racial stereotype of a gangbanger with saggy jeans and gold chains, your typical "gangsta") wielding a pistol that is NOT a Mauser C96 sideways.

It's arguable that it's a suitable pop culture term to describe the maneuver, and it's arguable that it's racist as all hell. And I'm not gonna weigh in one way or the other on that, because hosed if I'm taking sides in an Internet argument about race.

However, chitoryu12, I will say that between your insistence of cranes being handled well and the sheer cruft in your GURPS game (which I do feel was aptly described as misery porn,) you're starting to come off as a massive . I'd advise quitting while you're ahead lest some enterprising poster stick you in grogs.txt.

Tempus Rimeblood fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2014 around 02:23

chitoryu12
Apr 23, 2014

We can't stop here! This is cat country!


I should also point out that in the GURPS Tactical Shooting handbook, there's its own rule titled "Gangsta Shooting" which is a similar rule that lacks the stat changes like lowering the Bulk of the gun.

Also, I should explain that when discussing typical subsets of criminals, I usually use "gangsta" or "gangbanger" to describe the style of modern street thugs and "gangster" more for the mobster archetype, especially 20s or 30s style. I debated with which vernacular to use a few years ago when actually giving it some thought, and figured that most people would think of the classic pinstripe suited Italian with a Thompson when a "gangster" is mentioned.

I don't get this whole "misery porn" thing. Is it the optional rules? If so, almost identical sets of rules are used in non-horror GURPS games with a similar focus on detail and realism. Is it my emphasis that inter-party conflict isn't discouraged and that morally gray actions have to be taken and human-on-human conflict is going to be a bigger part instead of just fighting zombies all the time? Because that doesn't fit "misery porn" either just by itself.

The game's barely even started anyway, so I don't get how people seem to think that they have a solid enough understanding of its tone and content to criticize it when we're still on the first page and the world is still effectively normal. What I can say is that, while it's not a campaign geared toward a sensitive audience, it's not going to be gratuitous: excessive gore, surprise sex, and child death aspects are intentionally being kept out, and the world isn't filled with sociopaths that slaughter their way to the top; if anything, sociopathic behavior would probably be punished in-universe more than rewarded. With how I've planned out the game so far, it's likely to be less miserable and have fewer senseless deaths and crazy sociopaths than your average season of The Walking Dead.

Edit: I think my main point is that the game is being judged way, way too early. The recruitment thread's content doesn't really tell the player anything beyond "This is a zombie apocalypse game on the hard realism side of the difficulty scale. There's difficult moral choices to make, party members will probably disagree and fight, and PCs will die if they don't play smart." And the IC thread itself has literally nothing beyond the initial PC characterization finished so far.

It's pretty much impossible to judge the actual tone of the game at the point where it's at, and I've planned enough to confidently say that the "misery porn" prediction is really off the mark. It's like trying to judge the tone of Supernatural by watching the first 5 minutes.

chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at Jun 7, 2014 around 03:11

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Seebach's Nemesis


Peanut gallery feedback: I liked chitoryu12's zombie game better when Stephen King wrote it and it was called Cell.

QuantumNinja
Mar 8, 2013

Trust me.
I pretend to be a ninja.


a harpy
Aug 13, 2007



Hey, I think Doctor Idle's The Fog was a pretty successful stab at Stephen King -> RPG

And then merriment was had and we all started talking about how cool things are in this subforum again.

blurry!
Jun 14, 2006

Sorry for Party Flocking


I read Captain Foo's Apocalypse World game, the Island, and it's really interesting. It's one of the first games I've seen where splitting the group wasn't a death sentence for the thing. It also placed characters on opposing sides of a conflict without meta-game disaster. This is largely because of how cool AW handles things, and a good part due to Foo's well done juggling of multiple narratives. There's some initial hiccups with a character that doesn't really fit the goings-on, but that gets ironed out.

Good read, looking forward to more.

Vulpes Vulpes
Apr 28, 2013

noises, sounds, and sweet airs


I came here to post that as well! Both The Island and StringOfLetters' (and friends) game We Wayward Dead are excellent reads that I keep coming back to. Not having played any Apocalypse World games (or hacks) in real life, does this kind of narrative split work best in pbp?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

devil on your shoulder





Clever Betty

Thanks! I can only speak to the narrative split working out OK in pbp, it's the only way I play.

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


Vulpes Vulpes posted:

I came here to post that as well! Both The Island and StringOfLetters' (and friends) game We Wayward Dead are excellent reads that I keep coming back to. Not having played any Apocalypse World games (or hacks) in real life, does this kind of narrative split work best in pbp?

It is easier to manage split parties and such in PBP by virtue of not having to give immediate, real time feedback. I can post a post that covers five PCs in one update if needs be no matter where they are; in person I have one mouth to talk at any one person with so the rest of the party gets to sit around using their thumbs for fart corks if there is an extended split.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."


well I guess I'll be the person that says it.

Holy poo poo, Blackbird Dreaming hit that number

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

Sion posted:

well I guess I'll be the person that says it.

Holy poo poo, Blackbird Dreaming hit that number

Which number?

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011



Arivia posted:

tip 1: do not adopt aboriginal words and concepts like manitou for anime spirits

Camera cuts to a small wooden shack in a First Nations reserve in the land of Canada. An elderly native man is watching the Stanley Cup, cheering for his beloved Maple Leafs when he suddenly drops his remote, wracked by visions of the spirit world. A swirling void of colors and animals flashes before his eyes, showing hellscapes of the afterlife, past, present and future, all together as life becomes transcendent and one, the sheer oneness of all breaking all boundaries of reality while drool starts to dribble from his mouth. As his children try to help him up and ask what happened, he only manages to murmur a "The loving japanese... No, wait... The loving white devils... They took our word." before his heart finishes beating.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."


Error 404 posted:

Which number?

the 20,000 leagues under the sea post number

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

devil on your shoulder





Clever Betty

I remember when black ops broke 5000 posts

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


Captain Foo posted:

I remember when black ops broke 5000 posts

Bops never broke 5000, iirc. Thread wrapped at 4400ish

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

devil on your shoulder





Clever Betty

Winson_Paine posted:

Bops never broke 5000, iirc. Thread wrapped at 4400ish

Hrmmmmmm what am I remembering then

Edit-- metroid?

Green Intern
Dec 29, 2008

Secret Art: Toxic Crotch Whirlwind!

I just want to chime in to say that K Prime has been doing a pretty great job keeping the action escalating in his Super Robot Wars game. We started out capturing single sleeper agents, and now we're saving Italy from nuclear annihilation. A big shout out to all of the other players as well.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."


Captain Foo posted:

Hrmmmmmm what am I remembering then

Edit-- metroid?

Oh my god Metroid


Who was it that got bought a phazon Samus avatar with 'I want to lick her boobs' or something on it. I distinctly remember that being a thing that happened.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006


Heeeeeeey

Sion posted:

Oh my god Metroid


Who was it that got bought a phazon Samus avatar with 'I want to lick her boobs' or something on it. I distinctly remember that being a thing that happened.

Well it at least metroid didn't have any dolphins in it. Although I do distinctly remember a player being introduced and then his character killed on the same scene.

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


Kwyndig posted:

Well it at least metroid didn't have any dolphins in it. Although I do distinctly remember a player being introduced and then his character killed on the same scene.

Metroid did have the retconned prison bathroom incident tho

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010


Gonna need some elaboration on these.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006


Heeeeeeey

Winson_Paine posted:

Metroid did have the retconned prison bathroom incident tho

Hell my own Paragons had a hastily edited out sequence from two of my players that was at least tasteful, unlike a few other events from before the 'hey guys don't be a creep' mandate. (Thanks for that rule by the way, you're the best mod Winson)

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."


Sion posted:

Oh my god Metroid


Who was it that got bought a phazon Samus avatar with 'I want to lick her boobs' or something on it. I distinctly remember that being a thing that happened.

quote:

<sion> oobey
<sion> people in the peanut gallery thread were talkin about metroid
<sion> ~
<@oobey> cool
<sion> do you remember who it was that got the phazon boobs avatar
<@oobey> ConfusedUs
<sion> hah
<sion> neat

Gus Hobbleton
Dec 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3706 days!


The guy who was introduced and then killed instantly was Sansuki I believe.

Sion
Oct 16, 2004

"I'm the boss of space. That's plenty."


Gus Hobbleton posted:

The guy who was introduced and then killed instantly was Sansuki I believe.

Why did that happen?

AzMiLion
Dec 29, 2010

Truck you say?



Sion posted:

Why did that happen?

Wasn't it a 40K game about some heretics or other and he declared himself conquerer of the world, herald of Khorne. something else and then the Inquisition stopped by.

I remember reading that thread, hell Blackbird Dreaming got me to sign up for SA in part, the paywall was starting to piss me off.

Winson_Paine
Oct 27, 2000

Wait, something is wrong.


Sion posted:

Why did that happen?

I think just to be lovely to sanzuki? I don't remember.

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Tran
Feb 17, 2011

It's a pleasure to meet all of you. Especially in such a fine settin' as this. Just need us some music an' a brawl an' we'll be set.

AzMiLion posted:

Wasn't it a 40K game about some heretics or other and he declared himself conquerer of the world, herald of Khorne. something else and then the Inquisition stopped by.

I remember reading that thread, hell Blackbird Dreaming got me to sign up for SA in part, the paywall was starting to piss me off.

You might be thinking of Linux Assassin.

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