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becoming posted:Depends on how you want to drink it. For a cold drink that I'm going to dilute 1:1 with milk, I like to use a french press grind and a 1:8 ratio - so I might use 100g beans with 800g water. I put it in a jar, put the jar in a cool dark place (top of my pantry), and let it sit for 12-14 hours. Filter it, put it in another jar, and then mix 1:1 with milk, cold water, or a combination thereof. So maybe 200g concentrate, 100g water, 100g milk. I have a question about your cold brew method. When you say you go for a ratio of 1:4 do you also mean you do 100g beans and 400g water to make your concentrate? Or do you make the same 1:8 ratio concentrate, and then dilute that 1:4 with water later? dik-dik fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 14, 2014 |
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dik-dik posted:I have a question about your cold brew method. When you say you go for a ratio of 1:4 do you also mean you do 100g beans and 400g water to make your concentrate? Or do you make the same 1:8 ratio concentrate, and then dilute that 1:4 with water later? That's beans-to-water ratio. I brew in 2-quart Ball jars and tend to keep a pretty consistent 800ml water volume. For iced coffee, that means 100g beans and 800g water, and I am still pretty happy with that recipe, but lately I have been doing the 1:4 mostly. I put in 200g beans and 800g water. I've mostly switched to this simply because it's more versatile. I realize that I have perhaps been somewhat vague in some of my posts about this, so I'm going to just put everything I do cold-brew wise below. 1:8 cold-brew recipe Good for: iced coffee Not good for: hot coffee Ingredients
Note - If you are using two-quart jars, you can double up this recipe and do 200g beans and 1600mL water. It will fit with a little room to spare. You can't double up the below recipe, the beans take up too much space. This recipe works great for iced coffee because of its simplicity. The golden ratio with coffee is somewhere around 1:17, depending on your taste. I have been liking 1:16 lately, so this is simply half of that. Then, when I want a drink, I mix equal parts concentrate and ice water, milk, or a mixture thereof. (1:1 concentrate:milk is pretty superb, in my opinion.) This recipe does not work great for hot coffee. If you're mixing 1:1 concentrate with hot water, you are gonna wind up with fairly cold coffee. Out of your refrigerator it's gonna be around 40ºF, boiling water is 212ºF at sea level, but is probably closer to 205ºF by the time it hits the concentrate. They basically meet in the middle, which is around 122ºF, and that barely-hot coffee rapidly cools. 1:4 cold-brew recipe Good for: iced coffee, hot coffee Not good for: sun tan lotion? I haven't tested yet. Ingredients
This recipe works great for hot coffee because you're going 1:3 concentrate:hot water, so unlike the concentrate above, hot coffee made with this is actually still hot when you go to drink it. I have a Zojirushi hot water dispenser, so when I wake up in the morning, my coffee is already mostly made. All I need to do is pour some concentrate in a mug, walk to the hot water dispenser, and dispense some hot water. For extra giggles, use a measuring cup as your morning mug and just eyeball it. It also is pretty great for iced coffee. For iced coffee, you want to dilute it with water first. A 1:1 dilution with water gets you some of the 1:8 concentrate above. Let's say I want 16oz of iced coffee. I measure out 4oz of this concentrate, then mix it with 4oz of cold water. Now I've got 8oz of the 1:8 concentrate. From there, I tend to mix 8oz of milk, for my 16oz drink. If you want it less milky, try adding another 4oz water and 4oz milk. You'll pretty quickly figure out what you like. If you have any more questions, definitely ask. I love cold brew because with a little forethought and effort, it becomes the quickest way to get a good cup of coffee. Eat your heart out, Keurig. Edit - This post previously listed the jars as 1-quart in size. This was an error on my part; I actually brew with a 2-quart jar but pour the concentrate into 1-quart jars. The single 2-quart jar is needed because 200g grounds will fill a 1-quart jar almost fully by themselves. Second edit - Added the note about doubling up the 1:8 recipe. becoming fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Nov 29, 2014 |
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becoming posted:Since you've already got the Rolls Royce of drip machines, you will see a pretty huge improvement with a good grinder and freshly roasted beans ground right before you brew. It's also worth mentioning that most folks that are serious about coffee and espresso will recommend that you have a grinder solely for espresso. What I mean to say is, what you are brewing now is not espresso; if you get serious into espresso, you will want a grinder just for espresso; thus, you do not need a grinder for espresso right now. Thanks for explaining it, it didn't occur to me to think of it that way. I've been going through reviews and some models definitely seem to stand out, and the reviews also seem to reflect your advice of getting a different grind later for espresso. One machine seems to do coarse really well, but fails at fine, and vice versa. I've been looking at manual grinds too, Hario Skerton specifically. It's not expensive, gets good reviews and a shop near me appears to have them in stock (and they carry beans too), so I'll grab one of those and some small bean bags to try things out with. I imagine it'll be good to take this slow and see how it goes before getting an expensive electric grind, test things out a bit and hopefully gain more of an understanding of what to expect and how to evaluate the results. 
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It's been said a million times in this thread, but you're better off getting the $99 capresso infinity over a hand grinder.
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Mar 14, 2014 20:05
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thanks for all the cool cold-brewing stuff becoming
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Google Butt posted:It's been said a million times in this thread, but you're better off getting the $99 capresso infinity over a hand grinder. I was interested in it and I was looking for it but it's not available here from what I can tell. Otherwise yeah, I'd be going for that instead.
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Moskau posted:I was interested in it and I was looking for it but it's not available here from what I can tell. Otherwise yeah, I'd be going for that instead. Where is here? It's on Amazon if you can use that, they can also be found at bed bath and beyond. Another alternative is the baratza encore.
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Google Butt posted:Where is here? It's on Amazon if you can use that, they can also be found at bed bath and beyond. Another alternative is the baratza encore. I'm guessing Europe, for some reason you can't get a Capresso Infinity via Amazon there.
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rockcity posted:I'm guessing Europe, for some reason you can't get a Capresso Infinity via Amazon there. Huh, weird.
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Actually, haha, I just found it while googling and browsing around some coffee forums. Capresso Infinity is available in Europe but it's under a different name, Nivona CafeGrano. I'll be ordering one of those then, instead.
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Moskau posted:Actually, haha, I just found it while googling and browsing around some coffee forums. Capresso Infinity is available in Europe but it's under a different name, Nivona CafeGrano. I'll be ordering one of those then, instead. How much is it? If it's more than $99 check what price a baratza encore is, if it's the same, get the baratza.
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99€ for the CafeGrano, 179€ ( ) for the Encore. CafeGrano/Infinity it is, then; thanks for the help.
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I wouldn't hate on the hand grinders, I have a Porlex mini mill that suits me well (and I've done some tinkering with it to keep that floaty burr consistent). If you're just doing this coffee thing for yourself in the mornings, its really not that bad. Don't get the skerton, because even though it has more load to grind in, you can't just go nuts on it or coffee will fly everyone because of the open top. The Hario mini mill is good and a cheaper alternative for small grinds. If you're doing for even one extra person, just go with a electric grinder, though.
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Miko posted:I wouldn't hate on the hand grinders, I have a Porlex mini mill that suits me well (and I've done some tinkering with it to keep that floaty burr consistent). If you're just doing this coffee thing for yourself in the mornings, its really not that bad. Don't get the skerton, because even though it has more load to grind in, you can't just go nuts on it or coffee will fly everyone because of the open top. The Hario mini mill is good and a cheaper alternative for small grinds. Newer Skertons ship with a silicon-y lid with a hole for the crank to prevent that. I made a thing out of duct tape for the same purpose. I assume the Porlex is still better than the Skerton in terms of out-of-the-box large-grind consistency?
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Is it still irritating to change the grind setting on the new Skerton? Who even wants to manually grind that much coffee anyway. The Mini Mill is better.
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Finally managed to kill my heat gun.  Honestly I'm surprised that the Wagner $22 cheapie lasted so long roasting a couple of pounds a week. The increased heat levels it was exposed to in my KitchenAid set up probably didn't help. Time to see if I can turn it into a fire hazard while I wait for the replacement.
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Trip report on my first cup ever with my Hario V60: yum yum in my tum tum, that is all.
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becoming posted:I'm sorry man, I completely forgot to respond to this when I read it. No, never been. I'm always looking for neat places around here to hang out/spend money. I'll make it a point to get over there and give the Mexican a shot. Alright so I picked up some beans from Mad City over the weekend. I got the Costa Rican Tarrazu and it is GREAT, probably the best beans I've had in a while. Low acidity, medium body, chocolatey, fruity, etc. The employees working there are knowledgable and let me know that most of their beans aren't roasted dark, the only ones that would be are their french/italian roasts (obviously). They have a pretty good selection of beans from all over. I just gave up on the Bean Hollow beans from last week and gave it to my parents, it's roasted way too dark for my liking. But yeah, the Tarrazu is on sale at the moment for $11 from $14 a pound. It's advertised on their site but not in the store, so just ask about it and they'll give you the sale price. (Although I was accidentally marked up the original price because the other employee who ringed me up didn't realize it was a sale item, which is partly my fault for forgetting to tell him and not realizing until after I got home). But seriously, this place is great. They have a whole bunch of cool stuff for sale and the employees are really nice. The atmosphere is cozy and it wasn't busy at all when I went in on a Saturday afternoon. They roast every Thursday too. Unfortunately I forgot to ask if they sold unroasted beans, it would be awesome if they did! I also got a cup of their Java which was really good. At first I was kinda skeptical of this place because of the iffy reviews, but honestly my first and short time being there was pretty great. tl;dr: give this place a chance, you won't regret it! Edit: According to a friend who JUST visited Bean Hollow, they don't even carry roasts lighter than their medium. What a drat shame. Timid fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Mar 20, 2014 |
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Prior to buying an aeropress I watched plenty of videos and thought that it was an accident waiting to happen. A long cylinder that you put put pressure on from above - all it needs is a weird shift of weight and you have a big mess. Yesterday it happened - travel mug went flying, coffee everywhere and me holding the aeropress, looking like a fool. I was about halfway through the pressing so it was only 8oz or so, but it sure seemed like a lot more than that.
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Nothing quite like sitting in a cafe drinking a latte, watching the beans I'll be buying tomorrow get roasted.
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Dukket posted:Prior to buying an aeropress I watched plenty of videos and thought that it was an accident waiting to happen. A long cylinder that you put put pressure on from above - all it needs is a weird shift of weight and you have a big mess. Yesterday it happened - travel mug went flying, coffee everywhere and me holding the aeropress, looking like a fool. I was about halfway through the pressing so it was only 8oz or so, but it sure seemed like a lot more than that. Wait till you try the inverted method and something goes wrong  It's like a rite of passage (almost) for those too clumsy in the mornings for their own good.
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I always make some kind of mess when I make an aeropress
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The closest I've ever come to having aeroprobs was when I had a weird too-wide cup. I must be a naturally gentle presser.
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The main source of mess for me is after the press, when removing the aeropress there are always a few drops ready to get on my side
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I find that the trick is to not be drunk when you use the Aeropress.
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I do french press mainly because I'm not ready to make the lifestyle choice of being not drunk.
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Archer2338 posted:Wait till you try the inverted method and something goes wrong When I first got my AP started with the inverted method and stopped after just a few rounds, it was always a mess. I decided I was fine with premature drippings and had no problems until yesterday.
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The one catastrophe I've had with my aeropress was trying to make coffee with the inverted method, hungover. I've never made coffee hungover since.
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I didn't even have an aeropress. One morning I was terribly ill but had to get up for a 6am class, and ended up smacking my Chemex while turning around. This resulted in it falling over sideways (thankfully not breaking) and spilling out a filter full of 200F water and grounds onto my foot.  I'm scared of aeropresses because I have the coordination of drunken toddler and will invariably find some way to kill myself with it.
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Jamwillinob posted:The one catastrophe I've had with my aeropress was trying to make coffee with the inverted method, hungover. I've never made coffee hungover since. That, uh, may or may not have happened to me repeatedly. Gotta love scooping up boiling coffee and grounds off your counter with a kitchen towel first thing in the afternoon.
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Got a new toy in the mail today. 
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Bob_McBob posted:Got a new toy in the mail today. The things we do, the money we spend, for great coffee. Looking forward to reading a report!
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Would a LIDO be overkill for just pour over?
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Timid posted:Would a LIDO be overkill for just pour over? Man, they look nice but for that money you could buy a refurb virtuoso 
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Thanks for all of your helpful posts, coffee thread! I've been making great coffee for a few weeks now, and really even enjoy the process, except for the hand-grinding part...Google Butt posted:It's been said a million times in this thread, but you're better off getting the $99 capresso infinity over a hand grinder. Definitely. I picked up a Hario Skerton, and I just don't think I'm into it. Using it is hell on my supporting wrist unless I sit down and grip it between my legs, the locking nut loosens itself when grinding, and it doesn't really grind very consistently (I've read complaints about its consistency with coarse grinds, but I'm not even grinding all that coarsely.) I'm already planning on picking up the Capresso grinder when I can afford it, and just keeping the Skerton around as a backup.
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God drat, I'm not used to the 1:8 ratio of cold-brew vs. the 1:17 ratio of brewing with hot water. It doesn't help that my only grinder is my Hario Mini and that I love to share my coffee; I'm going to become poor fast if I don't start accepting tip money and/or stop sharing so much. (I miss roasting my own coffee.)
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I have my SECOND Virtuoso replacement (third unit overall) arriving Monday. It was supposed to be delivered yesterday, but a loving UPS trailer arrived late and UPS Ground doesn't deliver on Saturdays. I was really looking forward to making shittons of coffee this weekend with it, but I guess it will have to wait. Pretty disappointed with Baratza, but at least someone in QC emailed me and personally tested the replacement herself in the lab to make sure it worked. She also took off the stupid cardboard "ring" so I don't have to take the hopper off to get started. She seemed a bit incredulous that I was having so many problems with my grinders, but I'm glad they're attempting to make it right. I just got a new camera (Olympus E-PM2) with a sweet prime lens and I had a gorgeous brew going this morning in the Wave. I was pouring around the edge slowly with my kettle and kinda made a swirl towards the middle. It was alternating dark and light foam... looked awesome. Wish I'd captured that moment, but I did get a few decent shots. Check out my ~coffee album~: http://imgur.com/a/8UXJL. I think I'll take some next time I make some coffee again and try to get some super artsy coffee shotz.
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So, I think I'm hanging up the CCD for a while, absolutely loving what I'm getting with the v60 and gooseneck. I still think that the ccd is the go-to option for people getting into coffee or when a gooseneck isn't an option.
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I've also been using the V60 for a few months now and really like it. I think I like the taste of coffee that's ground finer.
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 Bonavita Variable Temp Kettle on lsale from Amazon for $67.42, original price is $94.99Back to regular price. Timid fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Mar 23, 2014 |
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