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For the people using 4:6, how does it scale? I usually make myself 540ml of water for my drive/stay at work, should I just be splitting that into 5x98 and mess from there? Or does this really only work for a single cup?
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So I've done a handful of 4:6 cups and everything is immensely better than what I was getting with Hoffman's method. I'll definitely go back and try to fine tune Hoffman's but I truly have no idea what kind of grind I should be using now. Should it be finer than what I'm using for the 4:6? Also, anybody have any Chemex methods they recommend?
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Sep 17, 2020 14:43
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The Postman posted:So I've done a handful of 4:6 cups and everything is immensely better than what I was getting with Hoffman's method. I'll definitely go back and try to fine tune Hoffman's but I truly have no idea what kind of grind I should be using now. Should it be finer than what I'm using for the 4:6? It's hard to give exact measurements for something like grindsize, but you want something that looks like kosher salt. You're going to have to play around with it but as a rule of thumb if it's draining too fast, grind it finer and if it's draining too slowly, grind it coarser.
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Sep 17, 2020 16:38
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Installed my E61 thermometer today. Makes the process of managing heat much easier. 
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Sep 17, 2020 20:22
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Deathlove posted:For the people using 4:6, how does it scale? I usually make myself 540ml of water for my drive/stay at work, should I just be splitting that into 5x98 and mess from there? Or does this really only work for a single cup? I just doubled everything and did 40g to 600ml and it was fine. I didn't adjust my grind size from normal v60 technique because it's the same for chemex and french press already. You can start with your chosen water amount and just do the ratio as noted and you'll very likely be fine.
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Sep 18, 2020 04:34
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Alright I got my Mochamaster, a decent burr grinder, went to a local shop to get some fresh roasted beans (Medium, Brazil). Pre-wet filter, stirred during the brew a bit... anyway the coffee is great but my wife says "too strong". She's just used to the watery artificial flavored dunkin donuts coffee she had been making in her grody 10+ year old cheap drip machine. So just for her sake does anyone have advice for how I can "weaken" the brew a bit? I wasn't sure if that just means less grounds or a different grind or whatever.
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Sep 18, 2020 11:59
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More water in her cup.
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Sep 18, 2020 12:18
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Yeah can you just...dilute it?
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Sep 18, 2020 12:20
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Womyn Capote posted:Alright I got my Mochamaster, a decent burr grinder, went to a local shop to get some fresh roasted beans (Medium, Brazil). Pre-wet filter, stirred during the brew a bit... anyway the coffee is great but my wife says "too strong". She's just used to the watery artificial flavored dunkin donuts coffee she had been making in her grody 10+ year old cheap drip machine. So just for her sake does anyone have advice for how I can "weaken" the brew a bit? I wasn't sure if that just means less grounds or a different grind or whatever. Did you use the recommended ratio in the manual? I can’t remember the ratio they give you (68g for a full pot of 10 cups iirc)? I know many people say that’s just a starting point and you can lower the amount of beans if needed. I usually use about 60g in my Moccamaster and my wife still says it’s too strong. Fine for me though.
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Sep 18, 2020 12:58
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nwin posted:Did you use the recommended ratio in the manual? I can’t remember the ratio they give you (68g for a full pot of 10 cups iirc)? I know many people say that’s just a starting point and you can lower the amount of beans if needed. I usually use about 60g in my Moccamaster and my wife still says it’s too strong. Fine for me though. Yeah I went with the 16:1 ratio that's recommended. 47g to 750ml water.
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Sep 18, 2020 13:34
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What's the cheapest burr grinder I can get away with in the UK if I don't care about espresso? I want to blast my beans for a moka pot or Hario pour over for 1-2 people first thing in the morning and that's it. Should I just stick with my hand grinder?
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Sep 18, 2020 21:54
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Wachter posted:What's the cheapest burr grinder I can get away with in the UK if I don't care about espresso? I want to blast my beans for a moka pot or Hario pour over for 1-2 people first thing in the morning and that's it. Should I just stick with my hand grinder? Baratza Encore is a workhorse.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:02
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Wachter posted:What's the cheapest burr grinder I can get away with in the UK if I don't care about espresso? I want to blast my beans for a moka pot or Hario pour over for 1-2 people first thing in the morning and that's it. Should I just stick with my hand grinder? I quite like my wilfa svart, can get them for around £95.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:18
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Wachter posted:What's the cheapest burr grinder I can get away with in the UK if I don't care about espresso? I want to blast my beans for a moka pot or Hario pour over for 1-2 people first thing in the morning and that's it. Should I just stick with my hand grinder? I know nothing about moka pot grind sizes, but for pour-over, the two mentioned so far would be the two I'd look at.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:47
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The flip side of that question: is an Encore with the replacement burr good enough to do espresso?
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Sep 18, 2020 23:27
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RichterIX posted:The flip side of that question: is an Encore with the replacement burr good enough to do espresso? Maybe? The problem is that it doesn't have stepless grind adjustment, so you won't be able to properly dial-in your grind. I remember when I got my first ever espresso machine I tried using my Encore and found that mine would choke my espresso machine on the finest grind setting but was slightly under-extracted on the next setting. I essentially needed a half step between the two settings, but was unable to do it with the Encore's stepped settings. It's why Espresso grinders tend to offer stepless adjustment to let you fine tune your extraction.
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Sep 18, 2020 23:37
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I've used my encore for espresso, the real issue is consistency. For every good cup you're going to get like 5-6 bad ones.
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Sep 19, 2020 01:27
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RichterIX posted:The flip side of that question: is an Encore with the replacement burr good enough to do espresso? It's possible to get good shots out of it but you'll waste a lot of expensive beans doing it because adjusting it is very difficult. One click is the difference between a good shot and choking the machine so you really want something with more settings.
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Sep 19, 2020 02:03
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silvergoose posted:Yeah can you just...dilute it? The manual legit says just add water if it's too strong
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Sep 19, 2020 02:06
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Womyn Capote posted:Yeah I went with the 16:1 ratio that's recommended. 47g to 750ml water. You could conceivably cut this down to 42g or so and noticeably improve the cup for her and not compromise too much for what you like. I believe the "gold" standard is 55g per L of H2O +/- 5g. I'd recommend a small period where you keep the basket shut and saturate the grounds evenly but that's a time investment.
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Sep 19, 2020 02:16
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I use my Encore and upgraded burr with my NS Oscar and I’m happy using them together. I’ve used them together enough to know if adding another gram or changing the grind will get me what I want in the cup. I certainly wouldn’t pass up a nice Sette or Vario if one shows up for a screaming deal but I think the upgraded Encore does fine.
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Sep 19, 2020 02:54
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Gunder posted:Installed my E61 thermometer today. Makes the process of managing heat much easier. Which Rocket is that? I thought even their HX machines were supposed to be pretty stable due to the thermosyphon couple for the group head? I ask because I have a Mozzafiato Evolutione R but haven’t got a group thermometer for it but have kind of always wondered. I do flush before pulling a shot for the first one of the day (machine stays on all the time).
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Sep 19, 2020 03:11
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The Appartamento. I have no idea how stable it is or isn't. This is my first HX. I use the meter to tell when to stop doing cooling flushes.
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Sep 19, 2020 12:32
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Virtue posted:Maybe they use the same number of shots for every size and just add more water. From a ways back, but so many places do this that I ask if I'm at an unfamiliar shop. I'm used to 4 shots in a 20 oz Americano and the 2 that a lot of places put in just doesn't cut it.
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Sep 19, 2020 15:39
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Gunder posted:The Appartamento. I have no idea how stable it is or isn't. This is my first HX. I use the meter to tell when to stop doing cooling flushes. If you make two drinks in a row, do you need to flush the second time? I only flush if its been a few hours since I made a drink (first thing in the morning, or if I need an afternoon shot or evening affogato. I think your model has the thermosyphon dealio.
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Sep 20, 2020 06:13
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Oh gosh, how have I been through owning an espresso and not made an affogato
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Sep 20, 2020 07:01
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Pretty shameful tbh. Affogato is like Italy's greatest contribution to the culinary world. I'd love to eat it every day. Also I don't think you always need to use the best beans when making affogato. It all ends up pretty good!
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Sep 20, 2020 07:03
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Even if you don't have espresso, iced coffee can be the base of absolutely delicious treats
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Sep 20, 2020 09:39
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Ultimate Mango posted:If you make two drinks in a row, do you need to flush the second time? I only flush if its been a few hours since I made a drink (first thing in the morning, or if I need an afternoon shot or evening affogato. Not for 2 drinks in a row, but the first shot of the day definitely needs a flush. Edit: After turning the machine on, you need to wait at least 25-30 mins to get the grouphead up to temperature, and then if you pull a shot right when it reads 94 c, it'll pour boiling water all over the puck. You definitely need to do a cooling flush regardless. Gunder fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Sep 20, 2020 12:06
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At a lovely Econolodge to get some rest, the coffee provided is TWO decaf's, what the hell, I need coffee now. But maybe I shouldn't trust their coffee maker anyway.
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Sep 21, 2020 06:39
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excellent bird guy posted:At a lovely Econolodge to get some rest, the coffee provided is TWO decaf's, what the hell, I need coffee now. But maybe I shouldn't trust their coffee maker anyway. Leave it alone, hit McDonald's. At least McD is completely predictable.
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I've roasted for years using a behmor, but stopped about 2 years ago due to moving somewhere with not suitable roasting area. Kinda thinking about getting back into it, but all of the options under $600 all have their problems. Anyone have experience with either the sr800 or genecafe? Looking to be as hands off as possible, but I understand what is involved with machines in this bracket
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Sep 21, 2020 19:10
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Google Butt posted:I've roasted for years using a behmor, but stopped about 2 years ago due to moving somewhere with not suitable roasting area. Kinda thinking about getting back into it, but all of the options under $600 all have their problems. Anyone have experience with either the sr800 or genecafe? Looking to be as hands off as possible, but I understand what is involved with machines in this bracket I like my SR540 with extension tube quite a bit. I actually started using artisan to track my roasts so I'm the wrong person to talk about hands off but you can certainly do it hands off. Nothing is automated though.
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Sep 21, 2020 21:44
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Google Butt posted:I've roasted for years using a behmor, but stopped about 2 years ago due to moving somewhere with not suitable roasting area. Kinda thinking about getting back into it, but all of the options under $600 all have their problems. Anyone have experience with either the sr800 or genecafe? Looking to be as hands off as possible, but I understand what is involved with machines in this bracket I like the gene cafe quite a bit. We route the exhaust through a window for roasting indoors which makes the process of roasting relatively easy. The roasting process on the gene cafe looks like: 1) measure out ~300g green coffee 2) Push on button 3) Push safety check button at ~4 minutes, ~8 mintues 4) Roast generally over around 12 minutes, push button to enter cool cycle 5) Cool cycle finishes in about 12-15 minutes You can't get too involved in something while it's roasting due the safety feature, but it's not a tremendous amount of work.
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Sep 21, 2020 22:44
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milkman dad posted:I like the gene cafe quite a bit. We route the exhaust through a window for roasting indoors which makes the process of roasting relatively easy. The roasting process on the gene cafe looks like: routing outside is a very attractive feature of the gene cafe. From my research is seems as if the behmor is more consistent, but I'm considering it for sure
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Sep 21, 2020 22:46
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Google Butt posted:I've roasted for years using a behmor, but stopped about 2 years ago due to moving somewhere with not suitable roasting area. Kinda thinking about getting back into it, but all of the options under $600 all have their problems. Anyone have experience with either the sr800 or genecafe? Looking to be as hands off as possible, but I understand what is involved with machines in this bracket I suppose if you have a big window you can open and a shop fan set up in it blowing out you can vent it that way. It would really be nice if it had a vent option.
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Sep 22, 2020 00:45
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I've never roasted at home. How much of a smell do those things generate? I imagine there's quite a lot of burning smell?
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Sep 22, 2020 01:34
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Gunder posted:I've never roasted at home. How much of a smell do those things generate? I imagine there's quite a lot of burning smell? If you set it up properly the gene cafe has relatively little smell. Roasted coffee / burning are two different things. Roasted coffee smells pretty good!
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Sep 22, 2020 02:10
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You guys seen the boca boca 500? Thing looks beautiful
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Gunder posted:I've never roasted at home. How much of a smell do those things generate? I imagine there's quite a lot of burning smell? Nah, but your kitchen or where you roast will smell like the roast for a day or two. I don't mind the smell, but it does make you drink more coffee!
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