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Cactrot posted:Parse the controls? I don't understand how point and click is a thing you have to manage. Man, I love the original games, but the controls are pretty clunky. From the tiny dialogue window, to the three item scrolling inventory, to intuitive things like cycling through weapon modes. I booted up Fallout 2 recently, after a long, long, long absence, and I was fumbling around with the UI myself for part of the Temple of Trials. It all came back pretty quick though. I still like to daydream that Obsidian successfully pitches an old isometric style Fallout game to Bethesda, on the Pillars graphics engine, and they just brand it as Fallout Tactics 2 (even though it's really just like Fallout 1/2). Or, alternately, Obsidian does a off-brand Fallout game the way Pillars is off-brand Baldur's Gate. Doesn't need to be post-appoc, necessarily, I'd consider Arcanum a Fallout 'style' rpg.
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Cactrot posted:Parse the controls? I don't understand how point and click is a thing you have to manage. The basics are just point and click, but without reading the manual you won't know how to do even basic things like get through your inventory, equip weapons and use items, or do any of that efficiently in combat. Fallout 3 and New Vegas making the switch to an FPS means the controls are a lot simpler and easy to do in-game tutorials for, and New Vegas proves that you can still have an incredibly detailed RPG on the same level without needing to be a clunky isometric thing from the 90s.
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2house2fly posted:A Fallout 5 with Avellone contributing would be better than nothing, I'd probably even buy it. His New Vegas DLCs made it clear he's more at home in the Bethesda-style irradiated wasteland full of monsters than the Obsidian-style campaign setting full of ideological conflicts. So which ones are his? Im guessing old world blues but which others?
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Haverchuck posted:So which ones are his? Im guessing old world blues but which others? All of them except Honest Hearts.
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I wouldn't get too overexcited about MCA being involved. After his main contributions to Pillars of Eternity were eventually dropped/not used he left Obsidian so FO: New Vegas 2/ FO: New New Orleans isn't going to be any closer.
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Weavered posted:I wouldn't get too overexcited about MCA being involved. After his main contributions to Pillars of Eternity were eventually dropped/not used he left Obsidian so FO: New Vegas 2/ FO: New New Orleans isn't going to be any closer. There will never be another Obsidian Fallout or New Vegas 2, as far as I can tell. Avellone dropped some strong hints toward that after leaving. If he's doing something Fallout related it's probably directly with Bethesda, or someone like Beamdog doing an "enhanced" version of 1/2, like they did with Baldurs Gate. I suspect it was a minor miracle/freak occurrence that NV exists at all. He even flat it said he'd love to work on Fallout again, but explicitly said NOT with Obsidian. We'll probably never know quite what the drama was with him leaving, but there clearly was some.
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Considering the path Bethesda has gone with turning their games into a monetary service, another obsidian Fallout game is impossible to fathom unless creation club dies spectacularly. I just see CC as being incompatible with the design ethos of other developers, and Bethesda would probably be furious if obsidian made another fallout game that outdid their own efforts by relying on goodwill and non scummy business practices. I am curious about the goings on at Obsidian, considering most of what we know about the company comes from the design leads and not the upper management. They're pretty much guns for hire as far as being a game company goes, and I respect that they haven't been tied down to a publisher. But at the same time I wonder if their mercenary attitude is what Avellone took issue with. I imagine negotiating contracts with big time players can get pretty cutthroat, and the development side of the company would get hit harder than management. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Fallout 1 and 2 are loving amazing RPGs but BOY OH BOY did they not age well in certain respects. poo poo, Fallout 1 doesn't even have a 'loot' all button, and you can only move items 999 increments. Which is fine for everything except for money and ammo. The interface is clunky and you may have to hunt around for some tweaks for high resolution stuff (IDK if the steam version comes with anything. The GOG version definitely doesn't), and I don't think either game likes windowed mod or Alt-tabs, mostly as a side effect of compatibility mode issues, I think. That said, holy loving gently caress, they're amazing games. They're well written, funny, and compelling games, and they're fairly hard at times, but once you come to grips with SPECIAL, the engine and the interface, it won't seem so hard. I really recommend everyone play it.
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If you haven't already, do a max luck jinxed hand-to-hand run in Fallout 1/2. It's a fun change of pace from the traditional small guns/energy weapons path.
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Isn't Jinx the trait that makes everything in the game have insane dice rolls?
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Arcsquad12 posted:Isn't Jinx the trait that makes everything in the game have insane dice rolls? Jinxed increases the chance you trigger a Critical Fail roll on a fail, I believe. Which means people start dropping guns and ammo like nobody's business around you (not to mention shoot their friends)
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RangerKarl posted:Jinxed increases the chance everyone triggers a Critical Fail roll on a fail, I believe. Which means people start dropping guns and ammo like nobody's business around you (not to mention shoot their friends) It's also worth remembering that if you max luck along with taking jinxed, it increases the likelihood that enemies will miss you, which is what triggers the crit fail check in the first place (similarly, Jinxed stops having as much of an effect on the player character once they've buffed their own skills to the point that they don't miss very often.)
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It's also why you go hand-to-hand - crit failures aren't as bad when you don't have ammo to lose.
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Or guns to explode (I'm pretty sure that's one of the results.)
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I imagine that must make the fight with Masticator really goddamn funny
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This whole segue just made me go on a 5-minute search for crit failure tables. Didn't find any but I was reminded of the stuff the 3D Fallouts no longer have in terms of crit effects http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_hit_tables
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whydirt posted:It's also why you go hand-to-hand - crit failures aren't as bad when you don't have ammo to lose. Instead you topple over like a dumbass. Which I agree, is good.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Considering the path Bethesda has gone with turning their games into a monetary service, another obsidian Fallout game is impossible to fathom unless creation club dies spectacularly. I just see CC as being incompatible with the design ethos of other developers, and Bethesda would probably be furious if obsidian made another fallout game that outdid their own efforts by relying on goodwill and non scummy business practices
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we all know that all they need to do is announce FNV for Switch and immediately they'd have another 50 million in the bank
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Jinxed run owns so hard. The Hubologists owning themselves with their plasma grenades was incredible.
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Basic Chunnel posted:Instead you topple over like a dumbass. Which I agree, is good. You're basically Adam West Batman of the wastes.
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RangerKarl posted:This whole segue just made me go on a 5-minute search for crit failure tables. Didn't find any but I was reminded of the stuff the 3D Fallouts no longer have in terms of crit effects http://falloutmods.wikia.com/wiki/Critical_hit_tables jesus christ when you shoot a brahmin in the groin and get max crit: quote:The Brahmin is most upset with this udderly devastating attack.
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the only flaw in new vegas is that you cant aim for the groin. would give you a reason to use VATS at least.
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RangerKarl posted:we all know that all they need to do is announce FNV for Switch and immediately they'd have another 50 million in the bank not gonna lie, this might tip the scale towards me getting a switch
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Why get FNV on the switch when you can have it on a platform with mods though? Would you really take FNV on the go that often?
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take it with you while patrolling the mojave almosT MAKES ME WISH FOR A NUCLEAR WINTER
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aniviron posted:Why get FNV on the switch when you can have it on a platform with mods though? Would you really take FNV on the go that often? So I can play it on public transit.
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I want a mod that replaces Big Iron with the Johnny Cash cover
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aniviron posted:Why get FNV on the switch when you can have it on a platform with mods though? Would you really take FNV on the go that often? People have really been going nuts lately whenever (popular game) gets ported to the Switch. The hype train shows no signs of stopping. If FNV did get on the Switch, it would sell.
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Absent some kind of Skyrim-esque special edition nonsense, I don't see them porting gamebryo to a modern console.
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e: nevermind, think I misunderstood.
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Blade Runner 2049 spoilers: Did anyone else get a Sierra Madre vibe from Deckard's hideout? You have a long-abandoned casino/hotel in a reddish irradiated wasteland with bombs connected to tripwires, glitchy holographic stage shows, and plenty of booze left to drink.
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I definitely thought about that as well. Kinda amusing.
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SpookyLizard posted:Fallout 1 and 2 are loving amazing RPGs but BOY OH BOY did they not age well in certain respects. poo poo, Fallout 1 doesn't even have a 'loot' all button, and you can only move items 999 increments. Which is fine for everything except for money and ammo. The interface is clunky and you may have to hunt around for some tweaks for high resolution stuff (IDK if the steam version comes with anything. The GOG version definitely doesn't), and I don't think either game likes windowed mod or Alt-tabs, mostly as a side effect of compatibility mode issues, I think. Actually the GoG version absolutely comes with the wide screen patch.
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Woebin posted:Actually the GoG version absolutely comes with the wide screen patch. Oh, does it? That's good to know. The last time I played it (probably two or three years ago at this point) I had to hunt around for a patch.
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I find it interesting that the Lanius speech check is so high, and yet it is clearly a very bad idea to let Lanius walk away and regroup. The Legion's continued existence is a threat, and the sooner it collapses the better.
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They also make it pretty clear though that (as long as you took Caesar out of the picture...and even if you didn't, there's his brain cancer), Lanius has no leadership skills and the Legion will blow itself up shortly. It's basically doomed unless you specifically go out of your way to save Caesar's life.
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2house2fly posted:I'd think Bethesda would be thrilled if Obsidian made a Fallout game that sold better than theirs, since that would result in Bethesda making a lotmof money
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AfricanBootyShine posted:Anyone have a link or screen caps of that post where Bloody Hedgehog realises that Confirmed Bachelor is a euphemism for gay dude? I wish. The memory still makes me chuckle.
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antidote posted:I wish. The memory still makes me chuckle. Here you go: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3358074&pagenumber=210&perpage=40#post383908590
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