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wateroverfire posted:FWIW even without officially codified wage progressions, it works like this in the U.S. too.
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This, 110% of the way. The worst case if you're polite and they can't actually explain why they're right, they go ahead and switch the subject. Which is nice at a family event when you're not out for blood.
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Laocius posted:I know someone who self-identifies as a Republican, but actually has generally liberal-to-progressive views, so talking to her can be really frustrating. I get the impression that she mostly just hates Democratic politicians and the liberal bourgeoisie in general, which I definitely relate to. She also used to work in the office of an incredibly corrupt former Democratic senator from our state, which clearly gave her a very negative impression of liberals and, by extension, progressives and the left. I would recommend ignoring trump threads and reading the succ zone. You might find some decent info in there. When you can point out that Dem party establishment doesn't really even mesh with lefty or progressive ideals it might be easier to disassociate the party poo poo-bags from the ideas they are "championing". SA rec's aside. I happened to get a copy of https://www.amazon.com/White-Trash-400-Year-History-America/dp/0143129678 that was some really good reading as a perspective on how the under-class that wasn't shipped in from the african continent was treated by pretty much any political figure or elite during the history of the USA and before. like to fix england's class problems they actually just locked people up and sold them as indentured servants overseas like wtf, also some really strange proto-eugenical sentiments that persist to this day
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