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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
http://www.undertheradarmag.com/news/ladytron_officially_announce_first_new_album_in_seven_years/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6jaYJx7yeI

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Siivola posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYG_4vJ4qNA

Tl;dw: The future is here and it's an eighties anime.

Am I the only one who thought of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeQRO4fXOKk

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Oxxidation posted:

*crooning violins*

let's go to the beach past the beach
where the girls wear their white velvet
run some sunscreen on your skinny neck
i can't get away with this

oh when you turn away, turn away
just don't bump me with your
amer-i-can el-bow
amer-i-can el-bow

*crunchy drum solo*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifElv18k2O8

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Whatever happened to TV on the Radio?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5C2WVCruPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXQd4MJG16U

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

they got the #1 right, but lmao at no Swans what the hell

no Swans, no Agalloch, no Danny Brown Atrocity Exhibition, no Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds, no IDLES, no Benji, no Neon Indian, no The Menzingers, no Purity Ring, no Jon Hopkins, no Baroness, no Kylesa, only one of Death Grips, the wrong Angel Olsen album, no Rhye

somehow Channel Orange is 8 places ahead of good kid maas city despite coming out in the same year and to this day good kid is a better album, Robyn being still held up as some icon but ugh

but the best part is not including Benji BUT NAME DROPPING IT IN THE SUFJAN STEVENS REVIEW

"Compared to the decade’s other creative-nonfiction-folk landmarks—Sun Kil Moon’s Benji and Mount Eerie’s A Crow Looked at Me—the songs on Carrie & Lowell rarely take place in the present tense."

they did include A Crow Looked At Me so this really is just trying to whitewash

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
new Battles album in the next few weeks so just a mindfuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpGp-22t0lU

This is now 12 years old.

The gap between that album and now is the same as the gap between that album and Pulp's Different Class or Radiohead's The Bends.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Weaponized Cum posted:

Battles are great live. They jam the gently caress out. I saw em as a 3 piece like 8 years ago tho.

Also, the drummer was in 12 Rods so that's cool.

Also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dupZVkeqVXk

Kramdar posted:

I only heard them on MTV2's Subterranean and on public radio. So that makes three places to hear them for me. And that really is their only good song. I'm surprised they're still together.

Mirrored, the entire thing, is an outstanding album and has aged amazingly

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
the only real Grimes Miss Anthropocene is the deluxe edition because the remixes arent evebn remixes but just extendeds and also includes We Appreciate Power

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Rageaholic posted:

Wait We Appreciate Power isn't on the standard edition? The gently caress? That's one of the best songs!

Broke: Grimes made We Appreciate Power as a vaccine to the masses against Roko's Basilisk.

Woke: She made it Deluxe Edition only so if you don't get the deluxe edition you're damned for literally eternity of suffering.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
this is now the Thundercat thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNCd_ERZvZM

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

exquisite tea posted:

Pitchfork has their own kind of insular community and as a result they sometimes tend to obsess over specific artists that I don't really understand, but in the case of Fiona Apple their praise is 100% accurate.

See also: them being the last bastion of hyping Lil Peep because they thought Emo Trap was the future. It was not.

Seriously in what universe is the atrocious Hellboy EP got the same rating or better than Danny Brown's Atrocity Exhibition that came out that same year.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

101 posted:

I would say the same thing about Hellboy

You're very very very wrong and that's ok.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Why the gently caress is music rwitter decided nows the time to attack indie music women as all products and fakes of the bourgesie? Lets hate Mitski and Grimes over this i guess?

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

cptn_dr posted:

What the gently caress?

https://twitter.com/chickenpaprika/status/1256689576577507328

essentially its a rabbit hole of Mitski's dad is CIA, Grimes parents are rich, Arca's dads an investment banker, its gone loving nuts

and King Princess

Lid fucked around with this message at 13:32 on May 3, 2020

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Henchman of Santa posted:

The weird Mitski CIA op thing was like a year ago. Dunno why it’s being brought up now again but I think most people just find it silly. And people have been pissed at Grimes since she started dating Elon Musk.

oh this is just taking Mitski's dad is a war criminal and running with it, just that she won't disavow her war criminal father

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I've seen CHVRCHES live four times nad every time has been slightly worse than the time previous, and it isn't the band its the crowds. I don't know what happened at album three but it seemed like they got a lot of new fans who didn't listen to anything but that album and thus are absolutely dead for all the stuff before that. Likewise the venues got progressively bigger but the atmosphere got worse.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
This was the first time i saw them

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/chvrches/2014/the-metro-theatre-sydney-australia-3c535cf.html

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Apparently Lana del Rey went off her rocker today

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
I’m not not a feminist – but there has to be a place in feminism for women who look and act like me – the kind of woman who says no but men hear yes – the kind of women who are slated mercilessly for being their authentic, delicate selves, the kind of women who get their own stories and voices taken away from them by stronger women or by men who hate women.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

T Bowl posted:

Not even those... it's literally The Arcade Fire or Vampire Weekend. Thinking noise pop is the "NPR" of indie is laughable.


The funniest indie ad ever is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mvm6KfJDE0

Arcade Fire's first three albums have aged really really well

after that though...


The Modern Leper posted:

To each their own, but I don't even know where you would've gotten this. NPR:The Band (especially around this time) would have been Animal Collective or Dirty Projectors, or more likely the third album by Fela Kuti's former kalimba player.

i'll second Animal Collective though, that seemed just artificial hope

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Between his reviews of Grimes, Fiona Apple and now Taylor Swift i think Fantano has declared war on white women music.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCp1781hrdY

Also if we're talking builds - Antony and The Johnsons then including ANOHNI

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZRnk971u4M

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G0eVXllE9c

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
The 1-2 Punch

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/184-i-get-wet/

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16836-i-get-wet/

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Cemetry Gator posted:

The biggest problem is that they don't have a voice any more. They're just another music news website.

For example, they'll rip apart Takeshi 6ix9ine and give him a terrible review, and then the next day, run a news story about a new song or remix he did.

And it's like - why are you giving this guy press after all the horrible poo poo he did, and then if you trash his album, why would you give him more press? It's not like they ever thought he was good.

Nothong is funnier than them being all in on Lil Peep and emo cloud being the future. They gave his atrocious Hellboy EP the same rating as Danny Brown's Atrocity Exhibition which came out that same year a d is one of the greatest hip hop albums of all time.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7v4yd/dont-be-shocked-john-maus-and-ariel-pink-were-at-pro-trump-riot-at-capitol-in-dc

hooboy...

quote:

Yesterday, right-wing extremists broke into the U.S. Capitol Building and stormed the Senate floor in a shameful and violent attempt to stop the official certification of Joe Biden’s election win. Hours later, images surfaced showing that musicians Ariel Pink and John Maus were in attendance. On a private Instagram account, filmmaker Alex Lee Moyer posted a photo in which she appeared to be sitting on a hotel room bed with Maus and Pink, later reposted on Twitter. Moyer tagged the post's location in Washington DC and captioned it: "The day we almost died but had a great time instead." In an Instagram Story on the same account, Moyer posted a video showing Maus standing outside the Capitol.

Moyer is the director of the controversial 2020 documentary TFW No GF, a sympathetic portrayal of incel and incel culture that featured Maus and Pink's songs on its soundtrack. In an email to Pitchfork, Moyer said she had met up with Pink and Maus to chat about an unrelated project that day and "felt obliged to record what was happening” in Washington, DC.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
if you can't enjoy Carly Rae Jepsen, Charli XCX, Billie Eilish, Lorde, or the 90s output of Kylie Minogue then you're outside the gates of heaven looking in

also we're due for a Sophisti-Pop renaissonce. I've spent a lot of time recently listening to Everything but the Girl and they ruled.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

T Bowl posted:

the Jessie Ware album was that. Also, how the gently caress you say that and not mention Robyn?

ok this is a confession I have to make

I never listened to Robyn

and I had a very very weird reason for this - for some reason I confused Robyn with La Roux and specifically La Roux's song Bulletproof annoyed the poo poo out of me. Up until last year I did not realise the mistake I had made and thus had missed Robyn's entire career thinking she was La Roux.

edit: i should've also mentioned Sophie Ellis-Bextor who as far as pure pop gets is like so loving great and i love her

Lid fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Jan 21, 2021

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0cuGn0F_-s

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Lampsacus posted:

Sophie Ellis-Bextor is brill. Early 00s related, I've been intricately obsessed with the Purity Ring cover of Better Off Alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCp1781hrdY

funnily this crossover came out last year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdXecuVl7_4

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

The Walrus posted:

and then you've got 'adult alternative' which is like goo goo dolls and matchbox 20

Wasnt that just post-grunge?

Also is Foo Fighters (and specifically the first three albums) the only music from that entire period you can state had any merit? I'm trying to think of anything else and coming up short with a genre that spanned over 20 years and dominated mainstream rock.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Sir Lemming posted:

That period meaning roughly 1995-2000? Yeah, I guess that was pretty bleak depending on what you were into. (Confession, I did enjoy nu-metal at the time.) You did have stuff like Ben Folds, Beck, and the one who started this discussion, Björk. Also No Doubt, I guess Oasis, a little bit of Radiohead (in my liiiife)

So yeah, definitely some classic albums here and there, but it's not quite music's finest hour. Especially compared with what came right before.


EDIT: This was also a notoriously low point for music mixing -- in 1995 it was still fine, but by 1999 we had the infamously overloud Californication and we didn't really recover from that until about a decade later. (1995 did have What's the Story Morning Glory which was also pretty loud, but that always felt like more of a deliberate and/or coke-fueled production choice)

It went well beyond that well into the 2000s with guys like Nickelback, post metal era incubus, Audioslave, Hoobastank and the worst of them all Theory of a Deadman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfnAOcBirAs

Specifically post-grunge wasn't an era where we were discussing just the poppification of genres (rap being Nelly, punk being Sum 41) but the dominant rock genre of that era.

No Doubt have their roots in ska, Oasis were part of britpop, Radiohead were all over the place, none were post grunge.

Lid fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jan 29, 2021

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLBKhry1UPE

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

^burtle posted:

I want to know what due date was looming that they dropped this news on a Monday morning when it has been like 8 years since RAM.



The Album!

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eXtxv1nhwI

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

I was wondering when they would pop up, first time i heard 100 Gecs all i could hear was "this is like sleigh bells but not as good" so maybe their era has finally come

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypUwRjH9sAU

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted2nlBSSRU

someone been listening to Rammstein

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