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PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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wattershed posted:

I, finally, will bite, and ask what I know a number of people want to ask but won't.

I didn't grow up on a farm or around a barn or stable or Mr. Hands. What the gently caress does a horse blanket smell like? And please don't say Band-Aids or something obtuse like that, give me something an ol' fashioned city boy would know.

"Horse blanket" is a stupid loving term people made up. I can't really describe the actual smell since I'm very bad at these things, but go drink an Orval and then whenever you smell things that remind you of that beer, you'll be able to claim you detect horse blanket.

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PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Quiet Feet posted:

If that's true that's wonderful news. I actually liked Alpine Spring better than Noble Pils but my most recent taste of the latter was like two years ago and I'd love the chance to change my mind.

He's right, their site lists Noble Pils as a year round beer. I'm actually drinking some right now, and it's as good as I remember it being, but still not quite as good as Prima Pils.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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funkybottoms posted:

i don't mean this as a criticism of you, but why are people going crazy over Nugget Nectar this year? i don't recall it being that special of a release the past couple years and it's always been fairly easy to find in VA.

Nugget Nectar hype levels are approaching dangerously annoying levels, I've noticed. Two years ago it was not hard at all to find weeks after release, but this year all the stores in my area sold out within 2 weeks. In PA it's especially bad because large distributors will only get in maybe 11-12 cases and since they can only sell them by the case, it only takes 11-12 people to completely sell out the store.

That being said, it's a really fantastic beer.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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I managed to snag a bottle of Sculpin IPA from the local bar that carries beers that don't get distributed to my area. I'm hoping it's not too old, but I can't translate what I'm assuming is this bullshit date code:

6C122
06182

Anyone know?

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Sirotan posted:

I guess this is a little old at this point, but I couldn't help but laugh and laugh and laugh...


my level of entitlement you guys :cry:

This post isn't even the funny part, its the fact that there are dozens of people agreeing with it and being mad at Founder's because they decided to drive 6 hours to buy beer and there were no staff members outside at 2am passing out tickets.

I like how.
That guy types.
As if he doesn't have word-wrap on.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Those Founders events sound really lovely and I can understand that guy's frustration, but his delivery is just so stupid and annoying to read.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Victory is opening another brewery in Parkesburg, PA

http://victorybeer.com/blog/more-victory-to-love/

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Founders is going to start distributing to places in NY other than NYC for the first time within the next two months. Just in time for me leaving the state for CT, which doesn't get Founders :( What a bad streak of luck

Anyone have experience with beer in CT?

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Wamsutta posted:

Which area of CT? If you're in Fairfield County, there's a lot of great places to pick up craft beer. And if you're near enough to the southwestern CT/NY border, Portchester Beer Distributor is just a short drive away to pick up Founders, etc.

New Haven

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Wamsutta posted:

I'm not that familiar with shops in New Haven, but I do know they have a sweet-rear end taproom: http://www.prime16.com/

New England Brewing Co is very close, in Woodbridge. They have a tasting area and do growler fills. They never update their website but Like them on Facebook to keep current on them. If you haven't had Gandhi Bot and you enjoy hoppy beers you will come to love NEBCO. http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/357

Yeah, I went to Prime 16 when I visited the area and that place alone prevented me from completely filling with dread at the prospect of moving to that area. I also went to this place Amity Wine & Spirit Co on my way into town and the selection was decent, but I was surprised at how little New England Brewing Co they had. I think I saw their scotch ale and that was it - hopefully the selection is better at other places.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Angry Grimace posted:

Technically speaking, given the contents of bourbon, I think that would qualify under the german purity law. Really. I've always been told they do a lot of technical end-arounds to say beer still qualifies under the old purity law.

I've never understood the appeal of the purity law in modern times, really. Good beer is good beer, and people are willing to pay for it.

I think he's pointing out they used cranberries

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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ShaneB posted:

I recently had to get a roommate for the first time in like 6 years... and it took him just over a week to drink a bunch of my beer cellar without asking. I don't know what the gently caress he was thinking, but things I believe got drank include:

De Struise - Aardmonnik - Earthmonk from 2008
Dogfish Head - Olde School Barleywine from 2008 (maybe more years? This is a 15% beer holy poo poo)
Dogfish Head - World Wide Stout from 2008 HOW THE gently caress DO YOU DRINK THIS BY YOURSELF its like 18%
Founders - Nemesis 2010 (Think this was in there)
Hair of the Dog - Cherry Adam from the Wood
Jolly Pumpkin - Bambic Batch 1 (FUCKKKKKK)

In the end it's just beer, and I guess I didn't EXPLICITLY SAY "don't drink my beer, especially multiple bottles of 15% beer", but jesus h christ on the cross I'm grumpy about it right now.

Edit: he was at least apologetic and was like "I didn't realize they were non-replaceable" and "I know guys at Firestone Walker and Stone" (he used to live in Cali)... but yeah. Cool.

Wow, that is seriously hosed up. Who just randomly drinks a bunch of someone else's beer (rare or not) without asking? That's just a matter of common loving decency and sense. I'd be furious on the principle of it alone. My goondolences

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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FreelanceSocialist posted:


edit: has anyone tried the Sam Adams Norse Legend or Verloren yet?

I'm waiting for them to pop up in my area, I've never had a Gose, so I'm pretty excited to try that out.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Mahoning posted:

Try a Burton Baton from Dogfish Head. It's a barrel aged IPA. It was decent. Some interesting flavors going on, but it was very boozy and I doubt I could drink more than one.

Also, if it's Giant Eagle that got a growler station I would be ecstatic. But I doubt it was.

I'm going to play a bit of devil's advocate here and say that I found Burton Baton to be another disgustingly sweet, hot DFH mess. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, of course, but if you find most other DFH beers to be overly sweet, you'll find the same with this beer.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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TenaciousTomato posted:

I have been throwing all of my glasses (Weihenstephaner Hefe glass, Chimay chalice, etc) in the dishwasher. Is that not what I should be doing?

I did this for about a year of regular use of my sam adams glass until I noticed that the design on the glass was being eroded off. I wouldn't sweat it if you don't do it too often or if you do it with a glass you don't care too much about, but from what I understand dishwasher detergent is very corrosive, so beware.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Drinking a Great Divide Colette and picking up a strong peanut taste. Never tasted that in this beer before...

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Jan 13, 2006

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Vertigo posted:


Scratch #57 - Chocolate Weizenbock. I could drink it all day. I dont' know why. It didnt' have any particularly amazing flavors, it was just well done. Chocolate came thru nicely, and it had a great finish. The guy in the gift shop said they had cases of it, up to a week or so ago :-/


I had this and didn't particularly enjoy it even though it sounded great on paper. The chocolate definitely came through perfectly, but I think the base weizenbock was a little too dry and that didn't play well with the fruit.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Yeah, I thought I was being crazy, but those Stone bombers aren't very expensive. I saw their smoked porter for $4.50 today and Ruination was $6.50. That being said, I still don't buy any of their beers just because I've never really had anything from them I thought was worth buying twice.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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I'm drinking a Southampton Biere de Garde, my first experience with the style. Is this a pretty good representation of the style? I like it, but its not at all what I expected - something about the name made me think it would be much more similar to a saison.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Bioshuffle posted:

I tried three philosophers and chimay grand ale and I am hooked. Where do I go from here?

If you've never had it, St. Bernardus Abt 12

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Vertigo posted:

Headed over to the local bar tonight..

Had an ithaca flower power(always good)

Flower Power is such an amazing beer, I'm really just quoting this so that anyone who has seen this goes and buys some.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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I think that was perhaps your own fault for thinking the History channel would put out anything of quality.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Perfectly Cromulent posted:


That's Black Raspberry sour beer being sprayed everywhere. They got the gusher under control, but it made a huge mess. I got there shortly after it happened and it was all over the ceiling, bar, walls, and even on tables 10 feet away.

This isn't a good week for catastrophes at breweries, apparently.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120424/NEWS/120429898/-1/NEWSMAP&template=wapart

Keg at Redhook blew up and killed a guy. I also read this, which happened a couple months ago:

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17326

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Let's also not take that comment too seriously since it is Reddit, which contains most of the scum on the internet.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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danbanana posted:

So... you bought an anise beer even though your don't like licorice? Can't really blame the beer for that choice.

I hate licorice too and I bought the anise stone IRS, but that's because I'm dumb and I didn't know anise was what licorice was made out of.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Speaking of labels, Victory must have lovely label machines because the top label that goes around the neck is always peeling off with their beers.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Although the Victory labels falling off doesn't bother me on a visual level, the first couple times I saw it were on bottles of Hop Devil and Hop Wallop and the labels falling off made me think the bottles were old, which made me not buy it (until later when I noticed all Victory beers have this problem).

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Also speaking of Victory, it looks like we'll start to see Summer Love showing up soon, which is very exciting.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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CalvinDooglas posted:

Tonight I enjoyed a big bottle Torpedo, and drank a Baltika "Grade 9 Extra Lager" (I assume this is what 9th graders drink in Russia). It's 8% and pretty awful flavor-wise, but isn't as offensive as I thought it would be. It's better than Natty Ice, at least, and tastes like if you stirred some corn syrup into a Bud Light. I think this is my first proper Malt Liquor, and I have to say that at 16oz and $1.79, it's not a bad deal.

Speaking of awful beer, I had a Sam Adams Cherry Wheat for the first time (it was included in the summer 12 pack) and holy poo poo, that beer is truly awful. Maybe it's just because I don't like cherries, but I don't think so. I'd always heard people make fun of that beer, but I never fully understood how truly bad it could be.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Sounds like an infection to me, what beer was it?

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Citrus-y notes are a trademark of American hops, yes

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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This sort of behavior is (understandably) becoming more and more popular as these brands become so popular. That's a bummer on one hand, but at the same time a really great sign of things to come. Assuming the bubble doesn't burst for at least a couple more years.

Has anyone had this years Sam Adams Longshot series? I had to be visiting to CT to be able to find it, so maybe this is old, but I thought the imperial stout was really disappointing, the dark night in munich was okay and the altbier was good, but I don't know much about altbiers at all. I find myself buying Sam Adams one off releases more than probably a lot of people in this thread despite how often I come away from them thinking it was a waste of money.

edit:

I also need to buy 4 cases of beer for my rehearsal dinner, does anyone have suggestions for beers on the east coast? I'm thinking at least a case or two of Victory Whirlwind because that is such a fantastic beer perfectly suited for warm weather, and maybe a case of noble pils or something (I'd buy Prima Pils, but I need something a little more accessible).

PoopShipDestroyer fucked around with this message at 02:40 on May 9, 2012

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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the yellow dart posted:

Many will likely disagree but I really like Sam Adam's Summer Ale this time of year, and it's really, really easy to find.

If left with little else to choose from, I find this beer to be very acceptable when it's nice and hot out. I'll have to think about that.

Kraven Moorhed posted:

Brooklyn Lager might be worth a shot if you can find it. Sam Adams stuff also tends to be very accessible, so I'll second the Noble Pils.

Having some Yuengling around for the least adventurous folks may be a good idea, but you risk having to get rid of the rest of it if people get adventurous.

My future father-in-law already bought a case of Corona (:rolleyes:) so I'm not very worried about the macro-front. This is on Long Island though, so I think Brooklyn Lager is a very good idea, I hadn't thought of that.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Docjowles posted:

Edit: I should preface this by saying I love beer and don't want to be Debbie Downer. I just don't see the boundless optimism of "soon everyone will have an IPA in her hand!" as realistic.

On the bubble thing, at some point craft beer growth does have to plateau. Yeah, right now it only has five percent market share but I have difficulty imagining it approaching 50% or even 20%. Much as we hate to admit it, a lot of people (apparently 95%?) just don't want craft beer. The flavors are challenging, it costs more, it has more calories, "my granddad drank Bud and my dad drank Bud and I sure as poo poo drink BUD", whatever. And on top of that, the market is absurdly crowded. There's already probably more individual beers produced in Colorado than I could drink in a year if I had 1 per day, not to count out-of-state brews we get, and there are hundreds more breweries/brewpubs I can't get here at all. And that's just US craft beer.

I don't see the craft beer market collapsing, but I foresee growth tapering off. Dark Lord Day seems crowded, til you do the math on those 3000 people or whatever divided by the US drinking age population. And who knows, maybe in another 10 years beer will fall out of fashion and microdistilleries will be all the rage (this is already happening).


I've been to some pretty awful breweries that the locals still pack into, inexplicably. My local CooperSmiths brewpub, for example, brews some of the worst beer in town (we have like 10 breweries :v:). But I'll be damned if it isn't jam packed almost every night of the week. Part of it is that the restaurant side of the business is very good so people go there to eat and end up buying beer. But I still think that us beer geeks are a way smaller proportion of the population than we like to think. As I said above, most people just don't care what they're drinking as long as it's cold and goes down easy.

Had the same experience at The Dodging Duck brewpub outside San Antonio. Food was great, the restaurant had a nice location, and it was very busy on a weekday night. But holy poo poo, it was the worst beer I have ever had in my life. I've had basic extract-based, 2 gallon boil, no-temp-control homebrew that was 100x better.

I mostly agree with you, but I think I'm a bit more pessimistic. Even in New York it seems like every small town has their own brewery and 99% of them are absolutely worthless and that's just not something that is going to last for decades to come. At some point the people out there who are not as devoted to craft beer as people who post about it on the internet are going to grow out of this phase and stop buying craft beer because they just lose interest in it.

I don't remember who it was, but earlier in the thread someone was posting about how they really didn't think the bubble was going to burst because "who is going to stop drinking craft beer after they start?" (or something similar). That is a pretty narrow minded approach to the average consumer drinking craft beer. For example, I work with a bunch of middle class guys who don't really give a poo poo about beer. They buy borderline craft beer like Saranac and Sam Adams but only when it's on sale. If they lost those brands for whatever reason, they wouldn't put a second thought into it.

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Jan 13, 2006

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mysterious frankie posted:

I think the first time I noticed something amiss was when I was walking by Hella's, notorious north side Greek diner/health hazard and saw a banner flapping on the storefront, proudly proclaiming they now serve craft beers. When even a greasepit like Hella's switches from MGD in the bottles with the flaky gold and black labels, to Dogfish Head, you've officially hit Pog-like levels of oversaturation. I do agree that the fad ending will not hurt the craft industry where it counts, but I think a lot of pie-eyed idealists are gonna be closing up shop and heading back to their day jobs in the near future. Or maybe work for other brewers?

If you read the homebrewing subreddit, it seems like every week or so someone is posting asking about how to open a small brewery. A couple people have actually done it on scales ranging from almost nothing to nano. This is the sort of stuff that really shows to me how oversaturated it's getting

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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I drank Sam Adams Sahti and Gose the last couple nights, and I'm pretty disappointed in both. I guess I was hoping for something much more unusual, but the Gose was pretty straight forward and the Sahti was basically just a scotch ale. They weren't bad by any means, I think I just went in hoping to get weird and was sad to see they were pretty approachable, normal beers.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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You can always count on rage-saq for Ajaarg level knowledge without the lovely loving attitude. Really interesting post, I need to go back and read Brew Like a Monk

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Jan 13, 2006

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Munkaboo posted:

You pumped about World of Beer opening here or what?

Anyone else been to a WoB? I know it's a bit of a chain. Wondering how much of their taps they waste on BMC stuff.

My experience is that they're a lot like Yard House places. Lots of taps but 90% of it is all completely average beer. Additionally, the one I went to didn't list prices, ABV or serving size.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Had my rehearsal dinner a couple weeks ago for which I bought 2 cases each of Summer Love and Sam Adams. The good news is the beer was a wild success for a bunch of non-beer drinkers, the bad news is I now have over a case of Sam Adams and less than 6 Summer Loves left over. Sam Adams is a great beer, so it's not much to complain about, but the Summer Love was a smashing success.

I also forced my wedding venue to have Troegs Dreamweaver and Sam Adams Noble Pils in addition to the usual macro lagers, and the Dreamweaver in particular was really well received. I had people coming up to me all night talking about the beer.

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PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

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Our wedding was full open bar with what I think were pretty nice liquor options (I have no idea what accounts for good liquor) but the only beer options were Miller and Coors Light. I had no say in anything wedding related (because I didn't give a poo poo) so I put my foot down when it came to beer selection.

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