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SwissArmyDruid posted:Hell, my first proper video card was a GeForce MX440. That poo poo was practically passively cooled, with how small the heatsinks were. And the reference models were! You're making me feel old. My first 3d card was a 3dfx voodoo banshee. It could get 60fps at quake 2 at 640x480! (http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/3d-chips,83-7.html) The MX cards were a strange beast. The Ti4200 was the best deal of that generation (and incidentally, my third video card).
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# ¿ Mar 16, 2016 20:14 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 04:48 |
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Ihmemies posted:Since 2008 I've had a 4850, 6950@6970 and a GTX 970. I think the 7800/8800 generations were hit with the same solder problems that doomed the early Xbox 360's and a bunch of macbooks. I had an 8800 that I bought from someone on SA-Mart that went bad. I revived it with a short bake and it lasted another year before giving up the ghost.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2016 00:33 |
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Godspeed 980 Ti Hybrid on SA-Mart You guys need to sell video cards I can afford. I'm hoping that as soon as the HTC Vive's ship there will be a ton of <970s at firesale prices.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2016 14:50 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Norm from Tested plugs a card into the Razer Core, and some other questions are answered as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFRoWj0YOw I really love this idea and I hope it catches on enough to come down in price a bit. You could swap your single GPU between a desktop, a laptop, and an HTPC if you had one with the proper connectivity.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2016 15:27 |
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Since things move pretty slowly on the low end, is the GTX 950 a solid choice for medium detail 1080p gaming now that it's less than $140? I was hoping for a 970 firesale but that doesn't seem that likely.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2016 00:23 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:You can get a 950 for $120 AR. Shortie single-fan card, dunno if that helps or hinders you. That's helpful. I checked ebay and it looks like many of the 290's are selling for ~$240 and the 780Ti's closer to $275, which is close enough to new 970 territory. Outside of SA-Mart, it doesn't seem like moderately-aged used cards actually sell at much of a discount.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2016 01:03 |
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snuff posted:I agree brand loyalty is stupid, but monopoly is only beneficial for nvidia and if you look at how the GTX 970 and R9 390 are price/performance wise (that is, very much on par with arguably the AMD card being the better deal) and the real world sales numbers probably being 5 to 1 for the nvidia card it's a drat shame that nvidia has such a firm grip on consumers. Isn't the 970 vastly more power efficient than the 390? All things being equal why buy the card that uses 100W more power to do the same job?
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2016 13:38 |
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EoRaptor posted:This is because the price cuts reinforced the idea that the 970 was better value. By cutting the price, AMD admitted their card wasn't as good, and since price segments are set by income, not by the value of the item being purchased, the 970 ran away with its target market. I'm not quite getting this argument. The 390x costs ~$50-$75 more than the 970 right now on newegg, and according to this comparison: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1559?vs=1595 is similar in performance but draws an extra 175W. Are you saying that the 390x would sell better if it was even more expensive? edit: I guess we're talking about the 290x which is slightly slower, but still, what fraction of people who buy $300+ GPU's aren't looking at benchmarks? Naffer fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Apr 17, 2016 |
# ¿ Apr 17, 2016 17:09 |
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SlayVus posted:With how retailers are selling these cards, it really makes you wonder what's coming. 980 Ti for the price of a 980, what kind of world are we living in. I'm certain the retailers don't know what's coming, and are just worried that they'll get stuck with old stock if the new cards are super desirable.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2016 17:11 |
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FaustianQ posted:Sorry for nearly spamming the thread at this point, but asking for a friend who's budget is really low and ebaying a card: low profile R5 240 vs HD7570? Replacing their current setup isn't an option, and they're running an HD5450 so literally anything is better (it's chugging on 1080p and flash games, let alone a handful of steam games they play), but I'm iffy on recommending a R5 230 (or any VLIW card) or GT 720, but they'll get more oomph out of the 7570 compared to the R5 240. Budget is 40$. Someone will have to double check me, but why not look at something like a GTX 460. They periodically sell for ~$40 on ebay and they seem to be much faster than the other cards you're talking about. Granted they're quite old at this point.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2016 16:44 |
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FaustianQ posted:Never seen a low profile GTX 460? Missed that bit.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2016 16:55 |
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Zero VGS posted:It sucks a bit because AMD is kinda doing the "right thing" by trying to prioritize affordable low/mid-tier cards for the 99%. I was thinking about this recently but I don't know how I feel about it anymore. On the steam GPU survey, the 970 is the most popular card (at 5%) while the lower end 950 is in only about a tenth of those (0.5%). I guess I had always assumed that the $150 cards outsold the $350 cards 10:1.
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 18:56 |
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xthetenth posted:Why compare to the 950? The 960 is a better comparison, and even then it's a mediocrity that came out later and was overpriced. The 970 was a good card that came out without its weaknesses being known and with its competition being severely misrepresented in benchmarks. It's one of the most successful launches of all time. I picked the 950 because it was cheaper than the 960, but I didn't realize it was released ~6 months after. There are almost as many 970's as 750ti's, 950, and 960's combined: http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ Talk about a successful card.
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# ¿ May 9, 2016 19:22 |
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Binary Badger posted:Welp, the great dumping has begun, Micro Center is hawking MSI and EVGA Superclocked 970's for $250.. If these dip below $200 I wonder if they'll be a better deal than whatever AMD has coming?
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# ¿ May 13, 2016 17:42 |
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Twerk from Home posted:A sane prediction: 290X/970 level performance for $200. I'd buy this.
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# ¿ May 17, 2016 17:41 |
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Ms. Chanandler Bong posted:Not following that closely, but I take it the prices of current gen high end cards will fall off an absolute cliff in the next couple of weeks? It's hard to say. What often happens is that they drop somewhat but that they become unavailable before they plummet to "buy one get three free" sorts of prices. I suspect that the somewhat higher list prices for this generation from Nvidia will keep prices from falling too far.
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# ¿ May 19, 2016 16:38 |
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MaxxBot posted:Yeah I had hopes for Broadwell-E having an affordable 8-core but it looks like they're not decreasing their per-core prices at all and the top end Broadwell-E part is like 75% as expensive as a Xeon . Given Intel's pricing trends I'll probably be looking to the Zen as well, Intel is just getting too greedy. We can't really blame them. They don't have much incentive to lower prices when AMD isn't nipping at their heels and overall PC sales are flat. If I had to guess they're probably going to be pretty conservative for a while now that they've pulled out of phone SoC's. There's some risk that ARM chips in chromebooks will cannibalize the low end, but that might actually endanger AMD more than Intel.
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# ¿ May 20, 2016 19:05 |
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That's a pretty big bandwidth upgrade for the 1060 over the 960, but still slightly less than the 970.
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# ¿ May 22, 2016 04:38 |
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:didn't reviewers say that the FE at 100% fan speed is almost as loud as the 290x at 100%? This review puts it about 57db at 100%: http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2441-diy-gtx-1080-hybrid-thermals-100-percent-lower-higher-oc-room That's similar to a 2000W Honda inverter generator (53db @ quarter load, 59 fully loaded): http://powerequipment.honda.com/generators/models/eu2000i
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# ¿ May 23, 2016 22:15 |
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repiv posted:(fixed your broken hotlink) The second link says the ZOTAC GTX 1080 AMP! has 2*8-pin.
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# ¿ May 26, 2016 21:29 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks Maybe I missed something, but based on this we're expecting to see a Polaris 10 card that slots in between the 970 and the 980Ti, and well behind the 1070 and 1080? That doesn't seem like the end of the world for AMD if they get their price right.
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# ¿ May 27, 2016 20:35 |
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If they've got >=970 performance at $199 that might actually sell pretty well. The 1060 (if it exists) could still cause them some trouble though.
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# ¿ May 31, 2016 22:26 |
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SwissArmyDruid posted:
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 13:55 |
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Lungboy posted:~£170 for the new AMD card to max out everything on my U2412M sounds like a good plan to me, coming from a gtx560. Even my wife couldn't complain about that, right? I'm looking forward to replacing my HD5700 with a 480. That should be a nice jump too.
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# ¿ Jun 1, 2016 17:10 |
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xthetenth posted:The only other game I can think of that uses over 4 GB VRAM without some really nuts settings is rise of the tomb raider, and that game actually uses VRAM and RAM semi interchangeably for a lot of data and runs fine on a Fury. It'll be interesting to see how the 480 4GB and 8GB compare to one another.
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2016 20:22 |
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snuff posted:I like it, Sapphire always make these heavy solid looking cards none of that RGB dragon bullshit. My significant other spotted this card when I had it out of my PC to clean the blower out on it, and it's been a running joke about how I must have bought the card because of the girl on it ever since.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 20:08 |
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HalloKitty posted:I don't get it, what's wrong with it? It looks alright, it's not covered in XTREME ~GAM3R~ poo poo. That one is definitely worse than the 5770. It's a bit funny, Sapphire used the same render of a woman on all the redesigns of the cooler too: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81WP0CSksAL._SL1500_.jpg http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Sapphire-Launches-Customized-Radeon-HD-5770-2.jpg I'm looking forward to seeing custom 480 designs that take advantage of the fact that it's a shorty pcb.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2016 20:23 |
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If the 480 turns out to be really similar to the 970, would it be worth getting the 8GB version? Is the 970 constrained by ram at 1080p or 1440p?
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2016 19:10 |
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Don Lapre posted:Wow, feel bad for all the 1070 owners I doubt the cards can all reliably overclock by 30%, otherwise why wouldn't AMD have selected more aggressive clocks for them?
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 16:22 |
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NewFatMike posted:Power draw could pick up by a lot and AMD said they were focusing on efficiency? Could be. I'm just an unabashed skeptic. FaustianQ posted:It's likely both of these reasons actually. There is probably a lot of binning going on with Polaris 10, so you'll get your 189$ RX480 4GB at 1080 which sips power, a 219$ RX480 4GB @ 1266Mhz, a 249$ RX480 8GB @1266Mhz and some guaranteed headroom, and 279-329$ RX480 8GB models which either come factory overclocked to ~1400Mhz or can overclock to ~1400Mhz or higher. I like the idea that the long embargo was so that they could produce a lot of chips before selecting final binning. You wouldn't want performance specs to get out if you were optimistic that your clocks were going to improve. Naffer fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jun 13, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 16:47 |
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EdEddnEddy posted:Had to catch up but on the old GPU Purchase and Box Art, I have been pretty lucky to get some boring box art paired with some rather ok cards. I bought a CreativeLabs 3dfx Banshee back in the day too. I don't remember when creative got out of the GPU business. What I didn't remember is that the banshee was actually slower than the Voodoo 2. Thankfully Tomshardware has their review from 1998 still up on their site. Naffer fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jun 13, 2016 |
# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 18:55 |
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Via reddit: http://venturebeat.com/2016/06/13/watch-pc-gamings-e3-conference-right-here/ "The products include the Radeon RX 480 graphics card, which can run virtual reality on a PC for prices starting at $200 for a four-gigabyte version. AMD is also showing the Radeon RX 470 and the Radeon RX 460 cards. They go on sale on June 29." Wonder if the 470 will be a cut down 480.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 20:03 |
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Twerk from Home posted:Man, I had no idea that Half Life still had a software renderer. By the time I got around to playing it I had a Geforce 2 MX. Half life was released in 1998, the same year the Voodoo 2 was released. I got Command and Conquer Red Alert for Christmas in 1996, and had to go on the internet with my 19.2kbps modem to download new S3 drivers that supported DirectX 3.0. Quake II came out a year later. Half-life came out a year after that.
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2016 22:31 |
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FaustianQ posted:
It makes sense for the 470 to be < 970 since otherwise they would have been touting it as the VR ready option.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2016 02:22 |
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Hubis posted:AMD doesn't want perf numbers to come out because they want it to be harder for NVIDIA to scoop their launch by announcing 1060 at the exact perfect Perf/$ level to make the 480 irrelevant. It seems possible. The 960 launched at $199. If Nvidia launched a 1060 at $229 with similar performance to the 480 it would take a lot of wind out of AMD's sails. The rumor right now is that the 1060 will be 1280 shaders with 6GB/192-bit memory,
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2016 17:50 |
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:The way it seems to go they get small amounts in all the time, vs large batches. Sometimes it's daily. If these are actually run under the same conditions, then the 480 should be very similar to SLI 760. http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/zotac_gtx_760_sli_review,10.html http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-480-rx-470-3dmark-performance/
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2016 21:53 |
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Do AMD and Nvidia GPU's still refuse to downclock if you run more than one monitor at non-identical resolutions?
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 20:14 |
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HalloKitty posted:The core clocks drop as expected on AMD GPUs, but the memory clock does not, and stays unnecessarily high. From my experience, anyway. This is sort of my experience on an old 5770. It downclocks the core to 400 MHz (normal idle is ~150 MHz) but leaves the memory at full tilt. I was hoping something had changed.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2016 21:31 |
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Icept posted:So I decided to make a bad decision: That is a huge card.
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# ¿ Jun 17, 2016 13:52 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 04:48 |
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Enos Cabell posted:How noticeable of a jump is a 980ti over a 970 at 1440p? My old 1080p gaming monitor died, and my 970 just isn't keeping up now that I'm using a 1440p display. I'm planning to get a 1080 once the dust settles a bit, but the idea of getting an EVGA 980ti now and then doing a step-up to a 1080 is pretty tempting. Maybe 30% better depending on the game? https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980_Ti/20.html
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