Endorph posted:

That was DQ8, and some of the puns in that were pretty incredible.

Defiance Industries posted:

The other characters not having any development or really mattering is actually a deliberate choice by the creators. They thought that having other characters get things like subplots, sidequests or even their own theme songs (because you'll notice none of the other PCs have themes in 8) would 'distract' the player from Squall and Rinoa and their amazing love story. That's why every male character except Squall is some combination of stupid, comic relief, or obstacle for Squall to demonstrate his worth by beating.

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Mr. Maltose posted:

Pretty sure that Square is painfully aware of the problem and the sales to cost is going to spur them to get something different going quickly.

1st AD posted:

Isn't there a way to guarantee that your team hits Sword Dance all the time? iirc there are several weapons and armor that will facilitate this, and Sword Dance is pretty good when you actually do it.

Pesky Splinter posted:

Oh, god her frowny face haha!


While on those lines, I really love what he did for Garland.

It's pretty much an original design for Garland - the art Amano did is only of the Cloudsea Djinn.

_{Which is also pretty cool, I must add}

But what I really like about it, is not only does it compliment the Warrior of Light's design, but it incorporates things from Garland's orignal sprite (the cape, horns), the Cloudsea Djinn (the earrings), and echoes/foreshadows his transformation into Chaos (the faces on the knees, the additional horns on the helmet, etc).




The concept art looks so much better than the models...

NikkolasKing posted:

Sadly no. I'm a member of the forum where most all of FFVII's lovely mods come from and there is a forum for FFVIII mods too and it's pretty much nothing but a few difficulty patches or a translation tweak or a driver to display the game in higher resolution.

It's a tragedy too because, as much as I love FFVII, it doesn't need all the work that's been lavished on it. FFVIII does. It could really benefit from an overhaul of gameplay like people did with FFVII and maybe some other things too.

BottledBodhisvata posted:

I, too, would like to see my serious melodramas about the nature of life, death and sacrifice be followed up by Charlie's Angels meets Josie and the Pussycats with magic.

Yuna posted:

I don't like your plan. It sucks.

NikkolasKing posted:

I liked the Dark Elf and Icewind Dale Trilogies....


I would describe X-2 as lighthearted and poppy. Whereas X's tone was possibly the dreariest and most consistently dark in the series, X-2, being our first real sequel, offers a fresh perspective on the ever after bit. So you saved the world - then what? Spira is throwing off a pall of a millennium of tyranny and fear of Godzilla. The results are generally cheerful but of course there's the whole civll war between the Youth League and New Yevon. Then there's Shuyin.

I would at least completely disagree with Paine being lazily written. Next to Yuna, her subplot is the best thing in the game. The whole Crimson Squad stuff is criminally optional but if you watch all the spheres and visit the Den of Woe, you will witness one of a few genuinely atmospheric and intense moments in the game.

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Oxxidation posted:

That huge brain is also the brain that came up with the opus that Cloud was a closet homosexual because he was constantly being dominated by Tifa and Aeris, so yeah, guy's just really desperate for attention.

NikkolasKing posted:

Are you saying Star Wars has a better story than FFVII?

I don't like Star Wars. Well, the movies anyway. I'd probably take any FF game over them in terms of story and characters.

Last Celebration posted:

Learning abilities from FF9 is the best part of the gameplay though? It's really cool to go to a town and see what new pieces of equipment you can pick up since it means more abilities, and doing sidequests feels legit rewarding since you can get good skills like AP UP and MP Attack really early, at least IMO. I don't really have a problem with the FF5/7/8 style of characters essentially being skins for your job/matera/junction setups, but it's really more of an apples and oranges thing as opposed to one game doing it flat out better than the other like FF5's job system compared to FF3. I guess the whole Trance activating automatically is stupid, but frankly, it seems silly to consider it even a minor complaint since it would be completely gamebreaking if it had manual input.

On another note, am I the only one who thinks FF5's ability system is pretty bad? I don't mean jobs, the job system itself is pretty fantastic even among current JRPGs for being able to make so many party combinations at any time, and have nearly all of them, within reason, be viable. The actual ability system kinda...sucks though. Compared to something like Final Fantasy Tactics, where you can equip a secondary command, a support ability, a counter skill and a movement skill, Final Fantasy 5 feels lacking in that regard. Hell, most non-mages don't have a skillset to equip, just a command you probably never touch in the actual job itself. It never feels like you're customizing and building up a unit like in Tactics, because you're just giving a Black Mage !White or a melee job like Samurai Two-Handed. Which is still cool in its own way, it just feels like it could work better if you could replace the Attack command with stuff like !Mug or !Aim, and had a slot dedicated to the Equip X skills.

Kyrosiris posted:

Every job system game has that "get key abilities, stay in job with good stats" trait to it, though?

Sex_Ferguson posted:

Yes, I know the phone games that aren't the mainstream titles exist, thank you.

EDIT: In other news the scenario writer of FFX has talked about the possibilities of an FFX-3.

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/12/26/final-fantasy-x-scenario-writer-possibility-final-fantasy-x-3/


So yeah, I dunno what they could do with a theoretical FFX-3, but if they could invent something with FFX-2, I'm sure they can do something new.

Mr. Fortitude posted:

Well the current rumors of X-3 are something.

http://www.novacrystallis.com/2013/12/final-fantasy-xx-2-hd-remaster-voice-drama-spoilers-leak-out-suggest-sequel-is-inevitable/

Potential spoiler for voice drama added in the remaster:On one hand Tidus and Yuna breaking up is kind of funny, on the other hand that and Sin returning completely invalidates the previous games in my opinion.

1st AD posted:

All you suckers will buy that poo poo anyways so I'm pretty sure SE is just catering to their fanbase.

Barudak posted:

Irvine is a ponytail wearing cowboy, ergo he is not a cowboy. QED.

Vanille is in the same realm of poo poo but she has the benefit of not having been trained from birth to do one thing, have everyone tell you they are amazing at one thing, and then reveal they are actually incapable of actually doing that one thing. And you know, being an awful human being that can't stop hitting on women to cover up his flagrant insecurities.

Delsaber posted:

I'd like to go back and ask my younger self the same question. I guess something always felt off to me about FFVI's translation, even if it wasn't nearly as messy as VII. Something in the tone perhaps?

I probably also glossed over a lot of VII's issues, especially the early hours where those problems are most noticeable, trying to keep up with my friends who were also all playing it for the first time. It probably wasn't until my second run that I really started to notice all the weird flaws.

I wonder when it was that Square finally started taking more care with their localization work? FFIX maybe? Though not as bad as VII, I remember the first translation for Tactics being pretty drat rough in that area as well. "Blame yourself or God" still gets a laugh in parts of my circle.

Sunning posted:

It's probably in the works. After KH 1.5's success, HD remakes are a low hanging fruit. FFXII is already kind of a proto-HD game with its emphasis on texturing over complex geometry. It looks excellent on emulators.

Armor-Piercing posted:

Based on what? We're getting international version content for X and X-2.

alcharagia posted:

The third Aladdin movie is the only good Disney DTV sequel.

gigglefeimer posted:

Why are you going for 100% story completion if you don't actually want to watch the story?

Defiance Industries posted:

Wait, like... everything that has ever died? Holy poo poo that's ridiculous. I don't even know how to describe that.

Dr Pepper posted:

Because the Swordmaster uses Katanas, far superior to petty Gaijin swords.

That loving Sned posted:

E: Also, they way I'd fix FFVIII is to just limit the number of spells you can equip to each stat to your current level. That way, levelling up would allow you to also get more powerful relative to enemies, so the exact same enemies from the starting area aren't just as difficult at the end of the game as they are at the start. You could also have a separate stock of magic, so you can keep casting spells without reducing your stats, and the game would warn you when you're about to run out of disposable spells and start going into your junctioned ones.

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Balthier is approximately 50% slower to fire a gun or a bow than any other character.

There's like a 90% chance you don't care. But if you're in the 10% of people who minmax everything, like me, don't do what your natural instincts would do and give the leading man the gun... because he's the worst, by far, with his long awful animation, and you will regret it.