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Ignatius M. Meen posted:I think it's way more "Ed is trolling the playerbase". Though, that'll be more confirmed if Ed's recent "it's done" on formspring means no more updates instead of just no more content updates. OriginalPseudonym posted:I'm not going to lie, I would re-buy BoI if it meant that they do it in a language that doesn't suck. Seriously, I think Ed's reliance on Flash for all his programming is crippling him more than just having two people working on his games. Even if a non-flash game is as cripplingly buggy as WotL is, at least it doesn't take a top-of-the-line system to run at half-speed. Didn't Super Meat Boy use vector art instead of sprites, too? I do know he tried to play off SMB as being in something other than Flash for a while, but...
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Roberto_Silencio posted:I don't know, those always looked like walking, blood spewing vaginas to me. I have to agree with this. I mean, it kind of works with a menstruation visual, which would fit right in with the game's theme. It doesn't help that the stump where their heads should be only adds to the similarity. (At the same time, the way they pull themselves open to spew out the laser is incredeibly reminiscent of the Goatse grab.)
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Jun 23, 2012 18:17
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Color Printer posted:So apparently that bug where you can buy something in the devil room with heart containers when you have 0 of them and a shitton of soul hearts (thanks to Guppy's Paw) and your life gets wiped to 0 and you die in one hit still exists. And it just ruined the best loving Eve run I have ever had. Devil room kills you instantly when it shouldn't? Ehhhhh.  Devil room grants you invincibility? gently caress THAT NOISE, patch is out in an hour.  Ed, your priorities are really screwy.
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Jun 25, 2012 20:48
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Color Printer posted:Fun fact: the two devil room items were Guppy and Brother Bobby. The only proper choice there is not to play.  Seriously, Brother Bobby is the worst familiar, and Guppy isn't that great unless you're playing an Eve or ??? run.
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Jun 25, 2012 22:01
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Xaiter posted:Telepilled STRAIGHT to the I Am Error Room. I have never once seen that room despite almost every one of my runs having Telepills in the pill rotation.
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Jun 26, 2012 03:03
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Met posted:You weren't going to get hit where you were standing there. That wasn't an guaranteed-death room. Evil Badman posted:It does. Point remains, the player could have worked with that room easily, or Jokered out. I think the issue was less "I can't dodge anything" and more "it's drat near impossible to damage the enemies easily without soaking hits or having spectral tears". Notice how many rocks are basically turning the room into a single corridor of pain. Doesn't change the "Joker is an easy out" statement, though.
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Jun 26, 2012 22:57
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President Ark posted:He has two bombs. That could let him blow up the rocks to give more room to get around or just blow open one of the two doors and skip the room. But then he'd be out of bombs and what happens if he doesn't get any more and doesn't get to enter any more secret rooms and and and  In all seriousness, I think my biggest problem in playing this game is that I basically forget bombs exist and/or save them for searching out secret rooms.
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Jun 26, 2012 23:29
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:
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Jun 29, 2012 04:00
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Mind Spew posted:Does Platinum God require you to get all the no damage achievements since it requires you to have all the secrets now? A better question is, "what are the requirements for Golden God now" since there's pretty much no way to 'roll back' the game?
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Saradiart posted:
And no way to get it short of double-glitch. GODDAMN IT ED.
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Jul 4, 2012 17:47
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FrancisYorkPatty posted:tons of poo poo, i have a huge list of dream ideas that couldnt be done in flash that id like to attempt.. as well as co-op Just a warning, Florian, Edmund. People who play console stuff expect their products to be FINISHED when it's released. None of this "We'll slap together a patch without testing if it breaks things" stuff.
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Jul 13, 2012 00:48
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Met posted:Something odd I've noticed is that sometimes the game slows down... when I have Facebook open in firefox. The game never slows down any other time except when Facebook specifically is open. It's about two pages late, but I'm pretty sure there's SOMETHING in Facebook's code that completely fucks with even the most simple of Flash programming, which is kind of ironic considering that 99.9% of the games ON Facebook are flash games. That said, I can't think of any reason that the games would be consistently two seperate speeds on two seperate machines, especially if absolutely no slowdown is noticed, but I think I've noticed that the game in general runs slightly slower as of 1.4, but it could just be confirmation bias.
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Slime posted:That was a fun run. Got Dr. Fetus fairly early on, then Mr. Mega, then in a devil room I picked up guppy's paw and traded away all my hearts, picked up the d6 again and rerolled the paw, getting...lucky foot. Later I got a bunch of soul hearts out of the fortune teller before it exploded and left the crystal ball, which I used to find the boss and then rerolled it into...bobby bomb. Yeah, the arcades are pretty much the single thing that elevate the D20 from "meh" to "pretty drat useful". Of course, if you have lovely luck... well, you'll still have lovely luck. D6, on the other hand, will never NOT be fan-loving-tastic.
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Slime posted:Well, except for those times where it decides to reroll lard into holy water. At least it doesn't actively hinder me, I guess? Unless you ever want to carry along a shot-firing familiar of any sort. If so, have fun with Brother Bobby!
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Jul 25, 2012 15:50
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Captain Magic posted:Holy poo poo I'm getting sort of tired of all my runs giving me pageant boy The last two times I've played as Judas, I've gottan pageant boy out of Boss Arenas. I've been playing Cain more and more, recently. Count Uvula posted:I don't really see what you're getting at. Even if he's wrong about the cause, the game does has abysmal performance. Sarcasm doesn't travel through the internet well.
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Jul 26, 2012 13:58
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Slime posted:God do I love Guppy's paw. It's fantastic for chest runs, since if you have only soul hearts, every single hit you take triggers the polaroid. More notably, it's the ENTIRE REASON to keep <x> down pills in a non-PHD/Luck Foot run, is to use them when Luck Foot triggers. What other non-shot items does 3 Dollar Bill emulate, out of curiosity?
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Jul 28, 2012 16:31
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Jegan posted:In my experience, once you pick up a book it removes itself from the library list. If you see a book but don't pick it up, it can appear in the library. That may have changed over the various 1.4s though. In my experience, a book can show up IN THE SAME LIBRARY MULTIPLE TIMES. This has happened to me both with the Book of Sin and Telepathy for Dummies. Both copies of the book run on the same timer, sadly. Either way, it's pretty clear evidence that no removal from the spawn list is done.
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I don't think I've ever cleared a run out of pure, unadulterated spite before today. I decided to try the Lord of the Flies challenge again, what with having horrible luck with it every time I've tried, and the game did its damnedest to see me fail. The highlights:
If it weren't for snagging the Dead Cat in a misguided attempt to unlock the Hairball (after getting screwed by the aforementioned stingy blood banks), the run would've ended me five times over, at least three of which by Conquest alone. ...and after all that? The game had the balls of giving me a Devil Room after Mom's Heart. That might've been the first time I ever flipped off a laptop.
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IUG posted:I did my second challenge today (first being the no-map one), the Dr Fetus one. I got a luck down pill in there, but also the habit and fortune teller's orb. I was in the stage to fight Mom, but I got a telepill that brought me to the I Am Error room, so I skipped that fight entirely, and did the womb for the first time. Beat her heart easily as the bombs would take out what she spawned instantly. So now I've gotten Mom's broken heart on the title screen, and only one Mom kill. But I unlocked Judas and a lot of other stuff. "Mom Kills" only keep track of how many times you cleared The Womb, so only having one is typical, regardless of skipping Mom through I Am Error. Personally, I'd suggest replaying the Dr. Fetus challenge 4 more times; you unlock Dr. Fetus in the normal game after your 5th Mom Kill, so you actually can't get it outside of the challenge yet and it is really good. Not Epic Fetus good, but still good enough to make the challenge run not very challenging at all.
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Color Printer posted:Here it is, folks. The Pastebin has been updated with new information regarding item (treasure) drops. The item drop system has (for the most part) been explained and dissected for your reading pleasure. If you thought the game tends to favor items you haven't picked up, you may be correct. If you've ever wondered why the game starts throwing Spacebar items at you after getting some upgrades, now you can know. It's all here. We can figure this out, and yet nobody yet knows what exactly Cain's Eye does. Sadly, all this code diving is also fruitless in an attempt to get Brimstone or Chocolate Milk to not be direct downgrades.
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This info dump brought to you by science. (Thanks to Xaiter for helping me experiment)
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flavor effigy posted:I wonder if the lucky foot increases the chance to get an angel room, because I got 2 in a row on this run, which has never happened before. Anyone gotten into that part of the code yet? Yeah. The guy on GameFAQs got that early. The chance of an Angel Room appearing is a flat 50% chance any time the Angel/Devil room spawns for a level, if and only if you've never done any deals with the Devil on that run. It's still in contention as to whether an Angel Room can spawn before any Devil Rooms appear - the code apparently says "no", but anecdotal evidence says "yes" from multiple people.
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NuminaXLT posted:Is there a reason in the coding why The Candle can damage the doors in the Mom fight and the statue in the fight with Satan? Some sort of "there is an enemy here that is only vulnerable during certain conditions" that it ignores? Wait, you can nuke Satan's statue in his fight? Man, I wish I'd known that when I got there with ???, I would've grabbed the Candle instead of keeping the Book of Revelations. Protocol7 posted:I haven't seen it myself as I have no idea how to get it. Are people decompiling it? Yeah, people both here and on GameFAQs are decompiling the flash processes, and the wiki seems to disavow both groups. Because drawing info about the game straight out of the game code is obviously a faulty method of data-gathering compared to confirmation bias and anecdotal evidence. This would be why you might see folks talking down about said wiki. Irony Be My Shield posted:Why do some items need a chance to not be in the game at all? I can see why you'd want to mix around the Mom range items for variety, and have the spoon and belt as essentially 2 versions of the same item, but I really don't see the point in having a 50% chance to not have Fate or Pyro in the game. If I were to wager a guess, people likely used Fate and Pyro as the biggest examples of "the new items need to be reweighted", as they were pretty much guarunteed to show up in any given run when WotL first came out, leading Florian to think that those items in particular spawned too much, as opposed to the Expansion-focused weighting making them appear way more often than they were supposed to. Not that them being rarer is that worrisome - Pyro is just the bomb equivalent of the Skeleton Key and Dollar (I'd rather have either Fetus, as an example) and Fate is just another Flight item, granting an Eternal Heart instead of any damage boosts or the like. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Jul 30, 2012 |
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Protocol7 posted:...Anecdotes in a game that has random dungeon generation? Have you seen the arguments on this page alone about the Mitre and "treasure rooms can appear in The Womb gently caress yes!!!1"? Yeah, I wish I wasn't serious.
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Duke of Flies posted:Someone told me once you can exploit the Liberty Cap on ??? to gain infinite hearts by just running back and forth between rooms and getting the big mushroom effect. I've been trying it for awhile now, and I've seen him get the big head like the DMG up shroom does, but it seems to cap my hearts at 4. Anyone got any insight? Is it blocked from exploitation now, or am I being impatient? It's blocked, in the same way the Guppy's Paw exploits are. Once you get the first soul heart, that's it. Feel free to chuck the Cap after that.
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Dark Grapefruit posted:
Yeah, I've noticed that as of 1.4.8 sometimes secret rooms just... don't spawn, even when they have spots available to them. I don't know if it's a bug or a tweak in the coding.
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Color Printer posted:EDIT: And Brother Bobby is in the item pool twice but neither of them gets removed because Devil Room items don't get removed from the regular pool gently caress you brother bobby Brother Bobby is everywhere. Including inside your other familiars. 
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Slime posted:Wait...I did the 9 lives challenge, which unlocked...guppy's tail? I'm pretty sure I've seen that a few times already. I think it's a similar situation as Blood Lust; Blood Lust is available in Item Rooms and Guppy's Tail from red chests before they're unlocked, but the unlocks make them available in the Devil Room as well.
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Hey, Color Printer. When it generates the pills, does it pull all of them at once, and are there any special rules? I'm asking, mostly, because I want to know if the game seriously does make sure that you always can pull Telepills or if that's just my confirmation bias acting up. For that matter, is the I Am Error room just another room on the grid with the same exact chance of being hit as any other room on the grid? In 50 hours worth of play, I've yet to see it once.
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RBA Starblade posted:What the hell is with those curses though? Hell, a good half of my runs start with one now; I just restart, but still. Are they supposed to show up non-stop? GameFAQs posted:
So, yes. Once unlocking Everything is Terrible and ESPECIALLY after clearing the Cathedral once, Curses become more likely than not.
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Man. I seriously think I Xaiter'd that Isaac Was Good Today run. Things started out on an odd note when, instead of a chest in the Curse Room, there was a pedestal with The Pact. (Is that actually a legitimate spawn, or did I somehow bug out there?) The Fallen showed up and gave me the Nail on Catacombs XL, and then on Depths 1 I found Epic Fetus and The Habit. Even without Epic Fetus, the item turnout I got was astoundingly good, including Spider Bite, a Pentagram (from Mom :psyduck) aforementioned Nail/Habit combo, and both the Map and Compass.
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Maha posted:I don't think this is the case, unless that 99% chance eluded me (or I'm misremembering). Shouldn't be too hard to test in basement 2. Except even then, Basement 2 is one of the cases where, even if you get that 99% boost, it gets halved because it hasn't been two floors since your last Devil/God room. Ideally, you'd want to test it on Caves 1.
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goons posted:The Purist So, uh. Anyone have any tips for this, or do I just have to pray that the RNG blesses me with one of the god-tier items that trivializes the game in general?
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Bellmaker posted:-Arcades will only spawn when you start a floor with 5+ coins. You're gonna need these, Blood Bags and Skatole will do wonders for your survivability. Well. Luck plays a part in the arcades altogether; I've gone several runs having 30+ coins and only ever getting a single arcade to spawn either on Depths 2 or Womb 2 because of bad floor setups; I'm pretty sure the arcade is the last room to be placed. Likewise, Blood machines seem to enjoy taking 20+ hearts from me before coughing up their goodies, which is great for the pocket book but bad for survivability. I only ever seem to actually win Skatole when I'm playing as Cain, for that matter. Is there any good instinct I should hone for when to Just Say No to blood machines/curse rooms/devil beggars? I always seem convinced that if I just try a little harder, luck will actually be on my side.
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tartar posted:Ughhh, all I have left are the depths and womb no damage achievements but I just can't seem to get them. I really wanted to fill out all the achievements before I stopped playing as much, but at this point I'm actually feeling burned out after so many attempts. Mama's Boy (the Womb) is mostly a matter of practice; if you have a stockpile of bombs, I'd advise bombing through rooms in order to clear a path to the boss room. Naturally, Compass/Treasure Map help with this. For Dark Boy (the Depths)... it's pretty much luck; in addition to absolute DICKISH room setups in the Depths, there's also the slightly-unreliable Mom explosion which can literally snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at the last possible second. Really, the only advice I can give is to attempt it when you've got a Curse of the Labyrinth going, as the cheevo triggers when you kill Mom. Do note that We Have To Go Deeper and the I Am Error room are acceptable ways of skipping the first floor, but using them on the second floor to skip the boss invalidates you for the cheevo. You have to kill the Depths/Womb 2 boss in order to trigger it. Maha posted:Alright, now a devil beggar just dropped The Poop for me. Pretty sure it's time to revise the pastebin. It's entirely possible that, much like how the Beggar has extra Food Items put specifically in his pool, the devil beggar has joke/useless poo poo in his pool. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 09:22 on Aug 19, 2012 |
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Captain Vittles posted:It seems to override everything, except for super-duper effects like Dr. Fetus or Technology. Basically, anything that changes what you shoot isn't overwritten (the two Fetus items, the two Technologies, Ipecac), but anything that changes the properties of your tears (Mom's Contact, Spider Bite, Spoon Bender) will be. I am unsure how 3 Dollar Bill interacts with Polyphemus or Mutant Spider.
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Maha posted:Speaking of abusing Dead Cat, I just did it with ??? in Depths I on Monstro II by killing him, leaving the item on the pedestal and bombing myself, and what happened was that every subsequent time I entered the room it just skipped the fight (after showing the splash screen) and spawned another item on the same pedestal. I kind of had this same bug before. Basically, if the boss spawns EXACTLY where the trapdoor would, he ... doesn't spawn. I've heard claims that it can cause items not to spawn, but it happened on me with Gish - his two fly buddies spawned, but he didn't, so I just had to kill two flies to get an item. That was the run I cleared The Purist with. 
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Jedit posted:Sitting on 4/6 for the Polaroid now, having completed with Isaac, Cain, Judas and Samson. Who should I go for next? I don't fancy ??? as it's a bit "the stars align" with that one, but Eve and Magdalene are both a bit crap. If you got a Cathedral clear with Samson, ??? should hardly be any problem at all. Yeah, you gotta get lucky with items, but you had to do that to get anywhere with Samson, too. As far as the "easiest" there, Maggie is the least lovely of the three remaining for Cathedral unlocks.
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To clarify, The Habit and the BoR/Nail will make you invulnerable up until the Womb; the Wafer is needed to make you basically invulnerable in the Womb and beyond. The Book of Revelations is a really common, really good item whose only drawback is giving you way too many horsemen to fight.
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Jedit posted:Using a donation machine triggers the Habit, so if he's not in the Womb he should definitely do it. This right here. If you're not in the Womb/Cathedral/Sheol/Chest and find a Donation Machine with Habit/BoR, it's pretty much free money and either a Blood Bag or a IV. And yes, it'll take soul hearts, if you're down to a half heart or less of regular health.
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