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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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So Toronto has it's own Marion Berry? Not that it has stopped the lovable bastard. :allears:



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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Something that has always baffled me is how a lot of the LGBTQ discussions going on in mainstream discourse tends to revolve around men, like completely forgetting that gay women exist as well. Am I the only one who notices that?

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Y'all are clearly confused, neither of those men is a Gracchi.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Is... is that LaVar Burton?

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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midnightclimax posted:

A bit of an heresy, but are there any sub-reddits worth following? I checked out /r/politics & /r/economics a while ago, but wasn't impressed.

Can't go wrong with /r/ShitRedditSays!

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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I like the host's handling of this whole situation. I really hope she's not active in liberal politics, but chances are she's some sort of major busybody. :(

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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tbp posted:

I've watched two of this lady's videos and they're horrendously poorly done. Like the idea was interested or whatever, but compared to other informative-y youtube series, they just seem really crappy.

Care to extrapolate? I know that much of what she does is Feminist 101, but the average male gamer really needs that.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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VagueRant posted:

Dear DnD,

I'm wondering if I'm a socialist, but am confused by broad political definitions. Is there a good way to tell?

(If it helps, I really loving hate these two - that's George W Bush on the right)


Are you an American? If you are and you harbor these thoughts then you're a goddamned traitor.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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What does it matter if she plays a lot of them? She's able to pick up on their general themes. The extra insight she could provide in such a case (and I believe it's a bullshit tactic to say "SHE DIDN'T PLAY THE GAMES" :byodood:, and gently caress, she was able to pick on the GENERAL TRENDS/THEMES/TROPES/MOTIFS that make up the game's storylines, so why the gently caress is this even a question?) would be lost on gamers. edit: Heck, whatever nuance the games themselves might bring to the themes they employ would be lost on the layman, whose whole perception is shaped by the idea of "women cannot have agency". It's very similar to how if you tell absurd, ironic, racist jokes you are just confirming those absurd, racist beliefs because racists generally don't distinguish between "this is affirming my beliefs" and "this is comedy offering insight into the absurdity of what I believe." Kick up, people, and empower those who are downtrodden. It's not hard.

Again, much of what she is doing is Feminist 101, not deeper analysis, because the gaming community at large is not even barely aware of the most basic concepts of feminism/equal representation of anyone who is not a straight, white male.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Aug 18, 2013

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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boom boom boom posted:

So if the series was Tropes vs. Women in Movies you would be fine with Sarkeesian using movies she hadn't seen as examples?



If she is able to establish and identify the general themes of the movies? Yeah. Who the gently caress cares, she's clearly aware enough of the movie's narrative that she can pick out the tropes/motifs it takes from mainstream culture and should be able to comment on them in that capacity (a limited, basic examination of them, because, again, the audience she is producing her videos for have a pretty basic—if at all—understanding of the tropes/motifs).




edit: Again, it's Tropes vs Women in Videogames, not In-Depth Feminist Analysation (gently caress you google, that's a word) and Application of Feminist Theories of Video Games. Personally? I would be more interested in the latter, because it would engage me at the level that I am currently at, but at the same time I understand why the material she is producing is pretty basic.

edit2: For a hyperbolic analogy, it's like going back to the 19th century and explaining to Americans that owning slaves is wrong because salves are people and just leaving it at that without examining the more in-depth reasons why you should not systematically discriminate and exploit a certain population. There's more to be said about it, but, really, we just need to get the message across that hey, you can't treat women/minorities/whatever's not a straight, white male as if they have no agency/personhood/existence at all.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Aug 18, 2013

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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But she does have a familarity with the subject matter. Enough of an intimate knowledge, in fact, to make the connections between the subject and the mainstream culture it draws its narrative influences from. :v:

I'm gonna stop here because feminists/any progressive movement will never be True Gamer enough for the gaming old guard.



This screencap is in reference to a very "laugh because you'd cry otherwise" piece that the Daily Show did about NYC's Stop & Frisk policy.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Aug 18, 2013

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Well that was pretty hard to watch. :(

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill

Earth posted:

She looks pretty happy in that picture. Perhaps that's what she wanted out of life?



I know you were joking, but this is an interesting topic because more and more (younger) women are choosing domestic lives, but these are not women who support conservative ideals, but rather come from more liberal, cosmopolitan backgrounds.

"Homeward Bound: Why Women Are Embracing the New Domesticity" is a pretty good book on this topic. I recommend it.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Volcott posted:

How does someone that objectively unattractive decide to specialize in self-portraits.



A bad poster.

How does someone this objectively stupid decide to post in this thread.



A bad poster.




Dutch counter-protesters dressed up as the beloved Dutch Zwarte Piet; recently the Netherlands have come under international scrutiny over their continued use of blackface during their Christmas-ish (it's not exactly Christmas because Santa didn't keep slaves) celebrations.

edit: More on this topic:

killstealing posted:



Woman protesting the VN because they should look into the killing of 400k people in the annexing of Papua by Indonesia is assaulted by a fat old dude because the group he was a member of thought she was protesting Zwarte Piet. I am so loving sad right now. I'm actually absolutely done with it, Zwarte Piet has to go and fast. I don't believe 90% of my country is racist, I believe a very racist minority is very happy with just radicalizing the rest by using a children's festival.

Zwarte Piet caused a white guy to assault some black kid's mom while she was protesting genocide. This country is absolutely retarded.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Oct 26, 2013

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Broken Machine posted:

I don't even know why I'm bothering to wade into this awful discussion, but

This is what they were looking at:



While you're sitting in the comfort of home in your chair, consider the situation they were faced with. You keep watching your buddies lose arms and legs from insurgents. If you let a bunch of them go, you're putting your friend's lives at risk. You have a few minutes at best to analyze the situation and make a decision, or they're going to get away.



Would it bother you less if they were somber about doing their job? If they sighed as they lit them up? Maybe they could say a little prayer for the dearly departed. Is a banker manipulating stock prices on commodities, starving a few thousand poors here and there less culpable because their hands didn't get dirty?

It'd be great if war didn't exist, but it does. It's a job like any other. It's disappointing to see everyone just pile on rather than engage the subject. The soldiers made a decision, some embedded journalists got killed, and they gleefully killed people they thought were the enemy. It's war and we're a violent species, the world is awful what else is new.

Yeah guys, who are we to judge these soldiers for gleefully killing people? They thought they were insurgents, and, well, it's their job to shoot insurgents, so who are we to question anything?

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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White people really are behind some (most) of the pretty awful stuff that goes on in this country when it comes to [insert minority]. :thumbsup:

It's hard not to be bitter.

editvvv: Aren't you one of our local white supremacists?

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 19, 2014

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Squalid posted:

Finally something me and anime crew can agree on




View of the ruins of the city of Bagan, former capital of the Kingdom of Pagan in modern Burma. After the Mongols destroyed Pagan in the 13th century the city was abandoned. More than 2,000 of its temples survive. The golden building in the foreground is the Bupaya Pagoda, which was reconstructed after a 1975 earthquake. It's only loosely based on the original design.

So you stand alongside conservatives who argue that political correctness and multiculturalism will be the demise of Western Society?

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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kustomkarkommando posted:

Bottom right hand corner. Not sure Guy Fawkes mask's were a thing in the 19th century...




Yeah, Guy Fawkes was a real historical person that had a pretty long tradition of (british) people mocking him since the 19th century (at least).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes

Fun fact: He's also called Guido Fawkes.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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I thought the whole reason the Brits forged their empire was so that they didn't have to eat their own miserable food.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Kegluneq posted:

Everyone eats American food now anyway.

The Vindaloo is actually Portuguese in origin though.

What even is 'American food'? Honest question, because to me american food is stuff like burgers and hotdogs and other things that have simple flavors, are hard to gently caress up, and are really bad for you.

Also vindaloo's Portuguese? That's crazy!

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Little Blackfly posted:

The joke is that both potatoes and tomatoes are now eaten the world over as staples, and both are native to the Americas :eng101:



Installation of a statue welcoming visitors to the Tiananmen Square Memorial Museum in Hong Kong.

Picture is link to BBC article


Well it hardly counts as American food if you adapt the food to your local culinary tradition, does it?

alg posted:



a wood fired barbecue pit in Goldsboro, NC



:getin:

I dunno how I forgot about BBQ.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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I'm prolly a bit biased, but I always loved Maryland's Mormon Temple and its even prettier when (if they let you) go inside!




It's just so... plain, yet not.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Is that Howard Stern?


e: Whoops, thought this was the GIF thread

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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Bloodnose posted:

You shouldn't raise the bar for monstrousness for nonwhite people. Obviously the thing her family was running from was worse than the act of Australia sending her back.

Mahinda Rajapaksa is pretty monstrous to Tamils.

Then again, he ended a 25 year long civil war during which both sides, including the Tamils, were pretty monstrous.



This poo poo is complicated.

But yeah don't buy into any "noble savage" poo poo that only white people do hosed up things.

I'd argue, though, that white people have a long and sotried history of doing really hosed up things to other ethnicities (and even their own) on grand, absolutely staggering scales. It's a kind of unfair bias, I'll admit, as of course white nations have done these horrible things constantly throughout history—they're the ones with the power in most of the scenarios.

And with great power comes the great impetus to construct racial hierarchies that allow you to excuse atrocities.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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I forgot that sexism is a minorities-only thing.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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System Metternich posted:

You may have heard of the recent first contact with an isolated tribe living in the Brazilian rainforest, which was caught on tape and released by the Brazilian National Indian Foundation. But that video naturally only provides a short glimpse: most first contact stories don't end with, well, the first contact. What happens afterwards, and how do the natives themselves tell the story?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrDACu7g_c

:nws: for naked natives

It's really disconcerting to see the whole "white people will come, spread their diseases, steal your land, and then laugh as you try to do anything about it" narrative play out in real(ish)-time in 2014.


A photograph taken at a mass grave dug after the Wounded Knee Massacre.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Man, that's just all kinds of hosed up.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Gonzo McFee posted:

The Economist is having a wee cry.



You'd figure that a popular Western publication would be ashamed about blatantly saying "this democracy thing would be better if rich people's votes were worth more than poors'."

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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N. Senada posted:


One of these is a cat, the other is the youngest person in state legislature, Saira Blair who is 18 and (R).




From her issues page:


I love it when dynasties thrive in a supposed democracy.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Arthur Chu really has been a gift to American Society. :allears:




Suck it, Trebek.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Jottpe posted:

I think posting cool old Communist stuff is way more interesting than a pissing match over cop murder.





You know, early American communists openly courting blacks probably did not help their cause, like, at all.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Jottpe posted:

Short answer: Probably, but not as much as publicly siding with Hitler after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
Long Answer: Found here, and here.





I don't know why I never considered the possibility that many of these early American communists were blacks who self-organized (which definitely did not help out the early American communist cause)--I had always just figured it was a thing foisted onto them by well-meaning whites!

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Disco Infiva posted:

:drat: I loved this book when I was younger, I think I still have it somewhere.



I love how they put Alexander the Great's (presumably) head in a place where he can either be from Greece or 'Macedonia' (FYROM). He's clearly in Greece, but just close enough to Macedonia for someone to claim him as their's.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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I was referencing the Balkan peoples of modern day 'Macedonia' (the country isn't even in a historically Greek area) claiming the Greek(ish) Alexander for their cultural hero--as Salty Jesus pointed out.

They have a bitchin' flag, though:

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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ArmZ posted:

i was referencing the fact that the person who made that map doesnt give a gently caress about what you are referencing

Definitely not, but there are a whole bunch of Greek and Macedonians who would be livid given the chance! I was pointing out something that looks innocent, but is a hilarious kerfuffle for some other people in another part of the world. I really find the situation funny because, despite Alexander being the Great, ultimately he died real early and all his accomplishments went to poo poo. He didn't actually do all that much of note beyond fight a bunch of dudes and then die a bitch death before he could create the cosmopolitan Western-Eastern fusion empire he set out to create.



The statue of Alexander that the Macedonians have in Skopje, FYROM's capital.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Dec 23, 2014

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

he also was good to the Jews, which is why you have Jews named Alexander, but greek rule of the jews didn't turn out too good



Jews during Antiquity are so much loving fun to study. It's hard to picture it, what with judiasm being so cemented in certain cultural ways as it is now. Back then poo poo was all up for grabs and you had city-jews fighting off rural-jews over the city-jews being too hellenized and falling away from judiasm's tenets (and man I'd love to have seen what hellenic jewish culture was like). poo poo, anything on the maccabees is worth a read.



Pictured is Eleazar Maccabee, one of the crazy Maccabee sons and inarguably the hardest, craziest motherfucker out of all of them. The dude was so roided up on yahweh that when he and his father's army were about to fight some Seleucids (who vastly outnumbered the jewish army) he spotted a huge elephant in the battle-lines, erroneously thought it belonged to the Seleucid king (haha, loving yeah right--why would someone that important be fighting a bunch of uppity jews when he had a bunch of uppity greeks and persians and egyptians to fight?), then went ape-poo poo and charged underneath it, killed it, then died as the elephant collapsed underneath him.

All this happened while the jewish army was retreating and ultimately the war ended not too much later after some peace-talks (again, the seleucids had more important people to fight than those in Judea--for such a contentious region it really was not that wealthy in comparison to the rest of the near and middle-east).

I love how much we revere pointless acts of bravery that result in the brave person's meaningless death.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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steinrokkan posted:

That head looks like it references either Athena or, perhaps more likely, Perikles. i don't think depictions of Alexander look like that.



I had considered that because of the helmet style, but then wondered which person is more easily identifiable to the general public: Alexander the Great or Pericles (it's Alexander). Also the head's right around macedonia and nowhere near attica. Also I don't think Pericles was blonde? Golden locks is what Alexander was known for.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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The 90s was a really confusing time for America, culturally.

MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Slavvy posted:

Is there a story about this? I can understand the kid getting hold of a gun but it would have to have a round chambered at the very least. Or is it a paintball gun or something?

It's an Iraqi wedding IIRC. Stuff like this actually happens more than you'd think over there!

e: The baby is the victim's child and the victim ended up dying. Gun safety! :haw:

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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

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Hahaha, I love that all the news sites are trolling him now. What a terrible hill to die on.

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