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Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.

Got my commendation pack, N7 Valiant! Got an assault rifle thermal scope in a PSP. Not a terrible hall. I'm loving the Asari Valkyrie, combined with the Piranha I feel like I have more damage potential than any other class. Makes me want an N7 Fury really badly.

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Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


Burning Mustache posted:

True, but there's a middle ground between that and 3 people trying to escort a drone through 2 Banshees, 3 Brutes and a couple of Marauders while plinking away at them with pistols.

There's also the part where it's pretty rude to run up and missile a Banshee that someone's been soloing for like 30 SECONDS AT MOST AND IS ABOUT TO KILL IT AND IS IN NO DANGER OF BEING DOWNED, and he's grinding for the weekend challenge etc.

gently caress pubbies.

EDIT: And somehow have enough missiles to do it for three consecutive waves.

Doc Dee fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 05:40

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


Red Crown posted:

Got my commendation pack, N7 Valiant! Got an assault rifle thermal scope in a PSP. Not a terrible hall. I'm loving the Asari Valkyrie, combined with the Piranha I feel like I have more damage potential than any other class. Makes me want an N7 Fury really badly.

Acolyte is always good to have on a Valkyrie. And a Fury. And a Geth Trooper. And a Batarian Soldier. And a Krogan Shaman. Basically any class that doesn't come with a power for stripping shields but has a power for armor.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


The Fury is a shield/barrier vampire. Strip shields with explosions to stay alive to make more explosions.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


Schubalts posted:

The Fury is a shield/barrier vampire. Strip shields with explosions to stay alive to make more explosions.

Yeah but lag

Really, it's the ONLY weapon I put on a Fury or Geth Trooper or Shaman.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz


Doc Dee posted:

There's also the part where it's pretty rude to run up and missile a Banshee that someone's been soloing for like 30 SECONDS AT MOST AND IS ABOUT TO KILL IT AND IS IN NO DANGER OF BEING DOWNED, and he's grinding for the weekend challenge etc.

gently caress pubbies.
Unless I'm horribly mistaken though, everyone gets the progress for the banshee kill, I'm pretty sure I didn't kill 20k points worth of banshees in the 3 silver games I just played to get the challenge.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


ZombyDog posted:

Unless I'm horribly mistaken though, everyone gets the progress for the banshee kill, I'm pretty sure I didn't kill 20k points worth of banshees in the 3 silver games I just played to get the challenge.

Nah, you'll get points for the assist, but it's at most half the points for the full kill.

If you killed ALL THE BANSHEES, you very well could have gotten 20k from three Silver games, they're worth a hair over 1.5k each.

Besides, I guess it's my fault, I should just back out when I see level 3 consumables being used on Bronze/Silver from now on.

Fight Club Sandwich
Apr 29, 2006

you want a piece of me???

Psion posted:

I might need those 255 missiles some day.

I have the opposite problem.

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Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

How unsightly.


Alteisen posted:

So I was gonna ask about the Kishock but never mind with that build.

So I'll ask about the collector sniper rifle instead, I just hit X with it, is it worth a drat?

I've been using it on my Drell Assassin to good effect. Light enough for the odd off-cloak recon mine, and really tears stuff up if you get headshots. Seems to work best with Incendiary Ammo, and pretend you're a baby Destroyer.

TastyLemonDrops
Aug 6, 2008

you said "drop kick" fyi


Fight Club Sandwich posted:

I have the opposite problem.



Huh. What happens when you buy jumbo packs? Do you just get the normal +5 per consumable changed into lovely level 1 ammo powers and such?

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


Dezinus posted:

I've been using it on my Drell Assassin to good effect. Light enough for the odd off-cloak recon mine, and really tears stuff up if you get headshots. Seems to work best with Incendiary Ammo, and pretend you're a baby Destroyer.

I tried it with the quarian infil, really tore poo poo up.

Man I need to take a break from this game, every small thing this game happens that exists solely to piss me off is suddenly becoming huge, why yes I do like stagger chains, no I ain't mad that phantom synced killed me from 7 feet away when I rolled away from her TWICE, synced despite the enemy not having enough space for the animation so we just sorta stared at each other till I fell over, good poo poo.

And pubbies goddammit, if its wave 7 or above, use consumables you stupid pieces of poo poo, I can carry 2 people at most depending on the class, not the entire goddamn team.

On the bright side, I'm learning to play the volus protector, he ain't to bad, the orbs let him get away with heavy gear mods like the high velocity barrel, also armor piercing stuff on the Reegar is obscene. I took the cooldown evo on charge and its saved my rear end a few times, for once something in this games works when its supposed to.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


TastyLemonDrops posted:

Huh. What happens when you buy jumbo packs? Do you just get the normal +5 per consumable changed into lovely level 1 ammo powers and such?

Pretty much. I buy JEPs and get like 7 Medigels, maybe 5 Ops Packs, and a bunch of random low-mid level consumables I don't give a poo poo about right now.

If Recruit Packs are the way to go if you only need one consumable, I've been doing it wrong.

TastyLemonDrops
Aug 6, 2008

you said "drop kick" fyi


I just got a hurricane in the commendation pack (finally). What do I tack on it to make it the murder machine everybody says it is.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

TastyLemonDrops posted:

I just got a hurricane in the commendation pack (finally). What do I tack on it to make it the murder machine everybody says it is.
It depends on who you use it on. It's more murderous on classes with weapon damage bonuses if you slap on the stability mod(Infiltrators, Soldiers with Marksman, the Destroyer, etc.) and for those with stability bonuses, the HV barrel will strip of armor as well as you strip off shields (Turians, the Destroyer). Once you get more levels on it or the ULM mod, it meshes really well with caster classes as an ammo power applicator for tech bursts, fire explosions, and cryo explosions.

Really it works well with everyone, it just needs some tweaks to suit your class and playstyle.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.


Slippery Tilde

TastyLemonDrops posted:

I just got a hurricane in the commendation pack (finally). What do I tack on it to make it the murder machine everybody says it is.
A character.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


TastyLemonDrops posted:

I just got a hurricane in the commendation pack (finally). What do I tack on it to make it the murder machine everybody says it is.

I would tell you "turians and any up-close power-heavy classes," but these guys say "PUT IT ON EVERYTHING, it has killer DPS and you can mitigate the muzzle climb by hip-firing"

Which I would still say the only time it's safe to do that is when you're up close anyway, so whatever. PUT IT ON WHATEVER YOU LIKE, IT'S A FREE WEAPONS SYSTEM

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading


Rick posted:

You could have every melee damage bonus with this build and have a pretty useful power too:

http://narida.pytalhost.com/me3/cla...gernautShield5/

However as great as shadow strike can be, I find relying on it as my only power is dangerous because it's buggy. It doesn't work on some maps if an enemy is standing on stairs or a ramp. Sometimes inexplicably it doesn't do full damage to an enemy and Scions and cannibals can stagger you out of the attack on a good host, on a bad host just about any enemy that staggers. Not to mention all it takes is an enemy around the corner you didn't see and you're down even if your target successfully dies.

I prefer this build because you can safely hang back and kill lots of things without ever shooting your gun and only shadow strike when you're sure it's going to kill, and you can dodge and run your way out of trouble if you need. Also you probably have some strength gear that you're never going to use for anything else if you want to use it.

http://narida.pytalhost.com/me3/cla...gernautShield5/
I am not sure the Shadow is worth using beyond silver. It's a pretty buggy and frustrating class that isn't even that great in optimum conditions, and is horribly crippled by latency and super vulnerable to certain enemies.

Despite being a single target assassination class, it is not good against bosses and is awesome at getting sync killed. Even when you consistently land shadow strikes on bosses, the damage is good but not that amazing given that you have to teleport right next to the now pissed off target. It's also no fun getting beaten and staggered out of stealthed shadow strikes by regular enemies, which happens a lot. If your team is actually alright, then shadow strike tends to be too slow, and you frequently will waste it on enemies that are killed before the strike connects. And it's not like you can just break off from your team, since the shadow is super brittle and enemies like to clobber you while you're trying to stealth around.

The class needs to be more durable and protected from staggers, and shadow strike should be like twice as fast as it is right now.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

Fight Club Sandwich posted:

I have the opposite problem.



I honestly think that would be worse because usually even in rando games (although this banshee challenge has made people pretty cutthroat) people will try and pick you up if you go down. Good luck getting someone else to use a missile at a convenient time.

Whatev posted:

I am not sure the Shadow is worth using beyond silver. It's a pretty buggy and frustrating class that isn't even that great in optimum conditions, and is horribly crippled by latency and super vulnerable to certain enemies.

Despite being a single target assassination class, it is not good against bosses and is awesome at getting sync killed. Even when you consistently land shadow strikes on bosses, the damage is good but not that amazing given that you have to teleport right next to the now pissed off target. It's also no fun getting beaten and staggered out of stealthed shadow strikes by regular enemies, which happens a lot. If your team is actually alright, then shadow strike tends to be too slow, and you frequently will waste it on enemies that are killed before the strike connects. And it's not like you can just break off from your team, since the shadow is super brittle and enemies like to clobber you while you're trying to stealth around.

The class needs to be more durable and protected from staggers, and shadow strike should be like twice as fast as it is right now.

I'd love to argue with you because I enjoy playing it so much, but yeah, you're right. I do ok in killing things because I have a petty good idea as to how much health the strike will take or not, but even after a successful kill you drop dead from something around the corner so often that it can be pretty anger inducing.

Gangringo
Jul 22, 2007


Dehumanize yourself and to bloodshed!


TastyLemonDrops posted:

I just got a hurricane in the commendation pack (finally). What do I tack on it to make it the murder machine everybody says it is.

Got ultra-light materials? Got a class that only uses one gun? Now they use two guns.

It makes a great up close-range backup for sniper infiltrators or a damage dump/ammo power tool for casters that need low cooldowns. Make sure you use the HV barrel or AP/Warp/Cryo ammo if you're playing above bronze/silver because it won't do poo poo against armor otherwise.

Just don't aim down the sights unless you're playing as a Turian or you're doubling up on stability with gear and a consumable. With anyone else, get closer and fire from cover whenever you're able.

Very few weapons beat it on raw DPS, nothing comes close on DPS/weight ratio.

9-Volt Assault
Jan 27, 2007

Beter twee tetten in de hand dan tien op de vlucht.


I finally unlocked the asari justicar and its such a lacklustre class compared to the asari huntress. Reave is dogshit compared to dark channel, both in damage and duration. The bubble is pretty situational and lift is on gold due to everything dying within seconds once armour/shield/barrier is gone.

Majestic
Mar 19, 2004

Don't listen to us!

We're fuckwits!!

Charlie Mopps posted:

I finally unlocked the asari justicar and its such a lacklustre class compared to the asari huntress. Reave is dogshit compared to dark channel, both in damage and duration. The bubble is pretty situational and lift is on gold due to everything dying within seconds once armour/shield/barrier is gone.

Dark Channel doesn't stack, Reave does.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

And the bubble's situational use is "when you want to be pretty hard to kill."

Der Luftwaffle
Dec 29, 2008


And when you can set it up at a chokepoint and detonate the gently caress out of everything in its radius.

Schubalts
Nov 25, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life,
I think I've gone too far.


Rick posted:

And the bubble's situational use is "when you want to be pretty hard to kill."

Yea, the Justicar can get a silly amount of damage resistance from Reave and the bubble. And Reave is a spammable (Dark Channel is only active one target ever), instant-hit, AoE, stackable power.

Red Crown
Oct 20, 2008

Pretend my finger's a knife.

How do you change your banner? I want to rock the sweet heartbreaker one.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

no user serviceable parts inside



Nap Ghost

You can't carry with a Shadow, and anybody who knows what they're doing will focus on trash instead of bosses anyway, making you completely redundant. It's also incredibly bad against reapers.

Last night I ran with a few of the people in this thread plus one competent pubbie. I think the squad configuration was Huntress (me) + Slayer (host) + Paladin + Volus, and this squad was just a bulldozer of pain. I think at one point we had like three Scions in Dagger's tower and about ten seconds and a lightning storm of biotic and cryo explosions later everything was dead.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."



Red Crown posted:

How do you change your banner? I want to rock the sweet heartbreaker one.

Challenges --> Set Title

CowboyAndy
Aug 6, 2012


Mr Dog posted:

You can't carry with a Shadow, and anybody who knows what they're doing will focus on trash instead of bosses anyway, making you completely redundant. It's also incredibly bad against reapers.

Last night I ran with a few of the people in this thread plus one competent pubbie. I think the squad configuration was Huntress (me) + Slayer (host) + Paladin + Volus, and this squad was just a bulldozer of pain. I think at one point we had like three Scions in Dagger's tower and about ten seconds and a lightning storm of biotic and cryo explosions later everything was dead.

Hmm... was that me you played with? I think I was the Volus Vanguard.

mania
Sep 9, 2004


So just was in a Rio/Reaper/Gold game with two guys who knew each other and another random. When the game loads, the two dudes head off to the end with the crates. Me and the other random are hanging around the middle, waiting for wave 1 to start when one of the two dudes speaks.

"Hey guys, we're gonna be back here. We got to wave 4 on Rio plat like this. Just so you know, if you guys stay up there you're on your own."

I turn around to check and yup, those two were hiding in the box of shame.

At least they came out during objective waves, though we ended up wiping around wave 7/8.

subroc
Jun 5, 2004



Yeah, pubbies do that. Once they see you tripling their score, they slowly start to come out.

It's sort of satisfying for me. You see them sprint for the Crate of Shame at the start of the match, but then you encourage them to grow a pair and play the game properly. Well done boys, you are now men *leaves lobby*.

tribbledirigible
Jul 27, 2004
I finally beat the internet. The end boss was hard.

Got the last banner I'm ever going to use (unless they do an Operation Resurrection for Easter and it's a Volus popping out of an egg) in one gold match against Reapers with goons.

And I got a Valkyrie I. I knew I was going to get something crappy for having such an easy time with the challenge.

eonblue174
Sep 13, 2011


Charlie Mopps posted:

I finally unlocked the asari justicar and its such a lacklustre class compared to the asari huntress. Reave is dogshit compared to dark channel, both in damage and duration. The bubble is pretty situational and lift is on gold due to everything dying within seconds once armour/shield/barrier is gone.

This has already been mentioned, but the fact that Reave can be applied multiple times to the same target and each one stacks is an easily missed important chunk of knowledge. Stacking reaves on a dude can do comparable damage to a cloaked dark channel, and reave with area will reliably hit 3 guys at once (when they're bunched up). I didn't know why people liked the Drell Adept till I really understood Reave.

Doc Dee
Feb 15, 2012

THANKS FOR MAKING ME SPEND MONEY, T


Eagle III

Wampus42 posted:

Got the last banner I'm ever going to use (unless they do an Operation Resurrection for Easter and it's a Volus popping out of an egg)

Agreed.

Xyretire
May 22, 2003
Lickin' the Gun.

Charlie Mopps posted:

I finally unlocked the asari justicar and its such a lacklustre class compared to the asari huntress. Reave is dogshit compared to dark channel, both in damage and duration. The bubble is pretty situational and lift is on gold due to everything dying within seconds once armour/shield/barrier is gone.

Play with another biotic character who has a good ranged detonator (or another primer, as Reave can detonate too). Apply Reave to everything. You DID take the area upgrade, right? Listen to the sweet explosions as you and your buddy rip everything apart with your biotics.

The class is a little bit lacklustre on its own due to difficulties setting off explosions on armor from a distance (unless you happen to have a warp bubble where they're coming from). It shines like a motherfucker when you have a partner though.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009



eonblue174 posted:

This has already been mentioned, but the fact that Reave can be applied multiple times to the same target and each one stacks is an easily missed important chunk of knowledge. Stacking reaves on a dude can do comparable damage to a cloaked dark channel, and reave with area will reliably hit 3 guys at once (when they're bunched up). I didn't know why people liked the Drell Adept till I really understood Reave.

Plus, Dark Channel isn't packing that sweet, sweet damage reduction. Imagine if Reave still restored health like in ME2.

chami
Mar 28, 2011

Keep it classy, boys~


Fun Shoe

Xyretire posted:

Play with another biotic character who has a good ranged detonator (or another primer, as Reave can detonate too). Apply Reave to everything. You DID take the area upgrade, right? Listen to the sweet explosions as you and your buddy rip everything apart with your biotics.

The class is a little bit lacklustre on its own due to difficulties setting off explosions on armor from a distance (unless you happen to have a warp bubble where they're coming from). It shines like a motherfucker when you have a partner though.

I usually offset this by skipping Bubble entirely and packing an Acolyte and a Hurricane with Warp Ammo. Acolyte + Pull + Reave on small enemies for BEs and clearing out crowds, Reave spam + warp ammo'd Hurricane on Armor targets. Skipping Bubble and maxing out Fitness turns her into a less mobile, tankier Drell Adept.

Alteisen
Jun 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless


eonblue174 posted:

This has already been mentioned, but the fact that Reave can be applied multiple times to the same target and each one stacks is an easily missed important chunk of knowledge. Stacking reaves on a dude can do comparable damage to a cloaked dark channel, and reave with area will reliably hit 3 guys at once (when they're bunched up). I didn't know why people liked the Drell Adept till I really understood Reave.

Oh poo poo, suddenly I see reave in an entirely new light.

TheDK
Jun 5, 2009


quote:

Asari Justicar talk
Here is how I roll:
6/6/4/4/6 Justicar

Reave pretty much all the time while closing on enemies to detonate with bubble. Bubble on objectives and rough situations to help the team. Packing a Hurricane most of the time but any light pistol would work too. Some more detailed strategy here: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/t.../index/12278119

chami
Mar 28, 2011

Keep it classy, boys~


Fun Shoe

Only problem with Reave is that you only get the DR from organic targets; getting Geth as a random opponent is a guaranteed headache.

edit: vvvvv It does? That's awesome!

chami fucked around with this message at Feb 16, 2013 around 19:30

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UnknownMercenary
Oct 31, 2011

I LIKE IT
WAY WAY TOO LOUD


Reave DR works on Geth.

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