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Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Looks like Nelson's Diablo is almost ready.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=501862256495009&set=a.336663079681595.96914.301601719854398&type=1&theater


Video for context:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwvQNLQyojI

Can't wait to see it in action.

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Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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Poster on Viper Club took some pics of Ralph Gilles while he was on his five-thousand mile winter roadtrip. Yes, he and Dick Winkles, SRT's head powertrain engineer, drove it in a snow storm.


Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Makes sense when they've been sporting the filter feeder look longer than anyone else.

The 177's V12 is a monster, but I wonder how it would fare against the SRT Viper's V10 if they were placed in identical vehicles. While it has a clear horsepower advantage, the pushrod has more torque, which is available throughout most of its rpm range.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Ralph just posted this picture of an unaired Stig lap:

That looks like a victory strut to me, and I bet the time it put down might have upset their leader board.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Puddin posted:

It kind of also looks like a 'something has broke in a big way, gently caress this car' walk off.
As if Top Gear would skip an opportunity to poo poo on a Yank car. :colbert:

The Rally Fighter they had on Leno looked like a solid product. This one did a front flip and kept on going: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi_AxqeDIOs

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

I love GT racing.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Some gen V concept art

I hope the next Viper looks like the one on the right.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

NRE will apply their magic to anything. :stare:

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Slavvy posted:

The old GTS is by far the best viper. Fact.
While I don't dislike the previous generation, I'm happy that the current vipers returned to the timeless design of the GTS.




Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

I've been a viper fan since Gran Turismo 2, and here are some of the best/craziest sounding out there.

All vipers should sound like this stock.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkq-eb03vno
This V10 sounds more like a dam bust or an avalanche than a motor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16mK9UdsMw
The sound is too much for the microphone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu2qO7I-uhQ

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

You are correct. Outside of the gen 2s with rear exhaust, most vipers have sidepipes with no crossover, so you're just hearing two 5 cylinders farting instead of a proper V10 engine note. None of the vehicles in the videos I posted have sidepipes, but those can actually sound good with a lot of work (headers, hiflo cats/no cats, aftermarket exhaust, comedy option: straight pipes).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2teLYT_8JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZymTLk2a8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaK4rvEhCxo

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Jr. can make all excuses he wants about his driving to the media, but no words can make him forget the shame from the judging eyes of doge.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

The 2000s Quattroportes are pretty drat stunning.


It's a shame the replacement has lost some of that distinctiveness, but then again, they're probably better in every metric outside of appearance.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

It's scary to think that we could build significantly faster racers if we threw logic out the window. Hell, I'd be morbidly interested in a new series based around something insane like Red Bull's 250mph X2014 dream car. Even if the drivers could hack it, they would probably need new tracks to let them stretch their legs, but I don't know if safety/survivability is even a thing at those speeds.


:getin:

Tekne fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Sep 5, 2014

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

While Ultimate Racing Championship will remain a pipedream, someone, preferably a group of unhinged millionaires, could build an equally nutty vehicle by funding a hypercar a la Koenigsegg based around a 3000hp big block V8 from Steve Morris or Tom Nelson. It'd be utterly useless outside of topspeed runs but hilariouslyhomicidaly awesome.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

This monstrosity is supposed to America's hypercar, so a huge and vulgar V8 would be the most authentic powerplant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA6am0rCwAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJZ6qoYVOFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSEpYZ5JBQA

A 3000hp V10 crudely bored to 576 cubic inches and boosted like Sal Patel's Viper is another option.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRzDs9TBmc
Yes, a 3700 pound car just did the 1/4 mile under 7 seconds.

Tekne fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Sep 6, 2014

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Oops, here's the right video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KRzDs9TBmc

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

angryhampster posted:

Dammit I love the sound of hopped up Vipers.

That V10 just sounds so lazy, but it absolutely HOWLS.

In this video it sounds like the Viper isn't even trying to go anywhere, and the Spyker is just screaming along behind it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_vmK8iK-I
That particular Viper sounds amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkq-eb03vno

This V10, well, lets just say it has an indescribable quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U16mK9UdsMw

On another topic, I hope they can truly revive Lincoln now that Mulally is gone, and maybe they can bring back the Town Car and Continental while they're at it. I hate the alphabet soup scheme they've gone with for their current offerings.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

This 458 is :krad:


Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

El Scotch posted:

From R/T's initial Mustang review:



I can't stop laughing at the car faces. The 911 looks like a blowfish and the Ferrari looks like it belongs in a kabuki theatre.
They caught a catfish too.


I would totally read an article about modern car faces and what animal or emotion they convey.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Viper is beta testing their 1 of 1 configurator.


Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

drgitlin posted:

They had this abomination at NYIAS:


That would be hilarious to drive for the reactions alone.

Speaking of Roadkill, they're doing a thing this Friday.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

You can now buy something similar straight from the factory.




2000lbs of downforce :stare:

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJpiI02ZtUs



All you could add is more power, which the market has addressed for once in Viper history.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

It didn't take very long for the Viper GTC 1 of 1 program to reach its potential.




The first complete car is rather tame though.


Tekne fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 15, 2015

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Holy hell, Dodge just revealed their Vision Gran Turismo concept car, the Tomahawk. :perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP5ULeIEy6w






In V's holy name, they must build it.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

xzzy posted:

That's a lot of effort to put a car in a game where you habitually win races by rebounding off armco. :v:
It's awesome that they went balls out with the design.

quote:

There's something new for the SRT garage in Gran Turismo. The SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo will challenge and delight players. The hybrid powertrain with wide-angle V-10 engine delivers up to 2,590 hp with a top speed of 371 mph. Active aero panels aid in braking and traction. Are you ready for the ride of your life?

Threat display:

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

It's the natural evolution of exotics' active aero as they reach for even greater extremes. Ralph "driving" the thing: https://instagram.com/p/3bx6bFRCwG/



They could probably build the less crazy versions. Turbo Vipers making that much power exist, the hybrid and KERS tech could be taken from Ferrari, and the panels are a trick planes have had for decades. It would be ungodly expensive to develop and more expensive to buy. Don't think there's much of a market for a single seat homicidal hypercar.

Hikaki posted:

How exactly do they design these cars for GT? I can't imagine any manufacturer spending many resources on designing a car for the sole purpose of having it be in a video game so is it just a matter of drawing out a crazy looking body and then going "ok now this car has MILLION hp and can go a BAZILLION mph!!!!!!!!" ?
According to the video, the design was an actual collaboration between SRT's racing engineers and all of FCA's North American design team, so the physics and mechanics for the non-extreme Tomahawks are supposed to be feasible in real life.

Tekne fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 2, 2015

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

FCA's press release: http://media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do?id=16592

quote:

A Virtual Car Engineered for the Real World
With a full set of engineering and performance specifications developed by the SRT engineering team at FCA US, the capabilities of the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo are rooted in an effort to push performance just beyond the limits of known science.

The entire vehicle design, from the driver position to the nearly flat layout of the V-10 engine, is intended to achieve the lowest possible center of gravity. The SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo was engineered and developed to the same uncompromising standards as any SRT vehicle on the road today. SRT engineers also worked in their spare time and on weekends to create three extremely fast cars that test the limits of human physiology.

“We had fun stretching our minds to create the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo for GT6. The game places a high emphasis on capturing reality in a virtual environment; our goal was to respect that philosophy by focusing on plausible future technologies that could achieve our vision of extreme performance,” said Mike Shinedling, Manager – Advanced Concepts, SRT Engineering, FCA US LLC. “Everyone can appreciate an exquisite design and something that is beautifully engineered; when those two things are brought together in a fusion of cooperation, there is nothing more exciting.”

Key engineering features of the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo include:

Ultra-lightweight materials used in the chassis and body work result in a car that weighs just 1,658 pounds in its ultimate performance configuration – just slightly heavier than a current day Formula One race car.
Rear wheels are powered by a wide-angle (144 degrees) V-10 engine that delivers up to 2,168 horsepower.
Front wheels are pneumatically driven independently. Combined with the V-10 powertrain, the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo boasts up to 2,590 hp. Maximum performance version the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo rolls with 1.56 hp per pound.
In addition to the front wheel power unit, pressurized air drives fast-actuating aerodynamic body panels for enhanced braking/traction performance, and activates driver’s G-suit during extreme maneuvers. Pressurized air is stored in tanks integrated into SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo’s chassis to negate any weight penalty.

Three Performance Levels
The SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo comes in three variations:

Entry-level S: Game players must first master the base version of the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo. The 7.0-liter wide-angle V-10 is tuned to deliver 792 hp (compared with 645 hp for the 8.4-liter V-10 in the 2015 Dodge Viper). The pneumatically driven front wheels add 215 hp, for total system output of 1,007 hp. With a curb weight of 2,026 pounds, this version of the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo is the heaviest, yet it has a top speed in excess of 250 mph.
Racing version GTS-R: Race tuning pushes output of the V-10 to 1,137 hp, while the air-driven front wheels add 313 hp for total system output of 1,450 hp. Aggressive weight-cutting techniques whittle the curb weight of the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo GTS-R to 1,459 pounds (the lightest of any version) and the top speed in excess of 300 mph.
Experimental technology ultimate version X: This is the ultimate Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo. With a redline set at 14,500 rpm, the V-10 engine pumps out 2,168 hp (nearly three times the output from the base Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo S) The front wheel drivetrain contributes an additional 422 hp at peak, for total output of 2,590 hp. That gives the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo X a top speed of 404 mph. Due to the extreme performance of the X version, the driver is required to wear a G-suit for protection.

The single-seat, mid-engine, all-wheel-drive SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo uses a purpose-built composite chassis. The chassis uses emerging and advanced materials, including hollow carbon nanofibers and graphene micro-lattice structures. Filament-wound pneumatic cylinders are integral structural elements laminated into the chassis.

To assist in cooling the carbon brake disks, the pneumatic front power unit builds up a “chill-sink” with expanding air during power delivery. This chill-sink is used to deliver required brake cooling with a minimal amount of air flow, thus greatly reducing aerodynamic drag.

In order to withstand the massive cornering and down force loads, next-generation compounds and construction were used to create the tires. The on-board pneumatic system continuously monitors and adjusts tire pressures according to the vehicle demands.

Charge, Recover, Release
While the V-10 engine drives the rear wheels, the SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo’s front wheels are linked to a variable-fin quad-stage pneumatic power unit that can quickly store and release energy. When the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo’s brakes are activated, or the V-10 engine is not at max power, the pneumatic power unit compresses air into the long, composite tanks that are structural members of the chassis. The compressed air is released to drive the front wheels, power the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo active aero panels and pressurize the driver’s G-suit in the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo X.

Pneumatic energy is generated in three ways:

Pre-race full charge
Braking re-generation charge via independent power units at each front wheel
Engine charge during braking and as part of the stability control system. During hard corner-exit and launch acceleration, when wheel spin is detected, excess available power is pulled from the engine via a third power unit

Pneumatic energy is released in five primary ways:

Front-wheel drive
Fast actuation of aerodynamic panels
Charging the variable spring rate suspension system
Wake modification for low drag, high speed runs on long straights (Nordschleife Dottinger-Hohe, Mulsanne Straight, Bonneville Salt Flats/LSR)
Pressurization of driver G-suit

Aggressive Aerodynamics
SRT engineers called for an aggressive aerodynamic strategy to manage airflow at extreme speeds. The Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo’s aerodynamic system reacts to inputs from a forward scanning laser system that detects surface changes. The computer controls anticipate changes in vehicle ride height, pitch and yaw and adjust the splitter accordingly.

The SRT Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo not only generates a tremendous amount of downforce, it also generates yaw force, normally seen in aircraft. There are nine active aerodynamic panels and two front splitters that actively steer the car through the air and help the vehicle corner at extreme speeds. These aerodynamic features are constantly adjusting to track conditions and driver inputs in order to provide the highest level of down force when needed. However, in a top speed run, the panels can be tucked to create a slippery, low-drag shape.

The V-10’s exhaust system is routed to the rear diffuser in a series of paired runners. Flow from the exhaust works in conjunction with the active aerodynamic system to provide an acceleration of underbody flow at the rear of the car and create a blown diffuser effect that increases down force without a negative effect on drag.

Pneumatics also drive the Tomahawk Vision Gran Turismo’s suspension. The car rides on a set of variable-rate pneumatic springs with adjustable jounce and rebound damping. A revolutionary active camber system adjusts the wheel knuckles to “lean” the vehicle into turns, with each wheel angling outboard or inboard to maintain the optimum tire contact patch and highest possible mechanical grip.
SRT put a surprising amount of thought into the Tomahawk.

They also produced a ton of art for it. http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/news/00_4849755.html

Tekne fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jun 2, 2015

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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Some madman artist is building a V12 out of Supra 2JZs.




:perfect:

More pictures http://imgur.com/a/g5ZIR#kMa787x

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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Ah, I don't know my Toyota engines very well. :downs:

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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Word is from the FCA people at SEMA that the supposed Viper cancellation is just another clickbait rumor. Really, all they need to do to boost sales is bring back the roadster (supposedly long in development), offer an optional automatic (sacrilegious, I know), and switch to a rear exhaust (quieter cabin lol, no whining about burned legs, louder VROOM VROOM for parking lot/shopping strip revvers). Some tv ads couldn't hurt either.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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Powershift posted:

I think the viper is it's own worst enemy. Unless you get one of the super racing track attack packages, the 2016 doesn't justify it's cost over a 2000. If you're just posing with it which let's face it, it's a viper so you are, a $30,000 car has the same visual effect as a $85,000 car.

It's a really awesome vehicle, and it's great that it's built, but i can't see FCA dumping a ton of money on development and safety testing and emission testing to double their monthly sales to 100. At this point they've probably just told 3 or 4 engineers to have fun with it as long as it's legal and then pack their bags for modeno.


it was a to-be-crushed press car, the engine is probably under a hood at sema right now.
It's true that the Viper can't compete on snobbery, but it does have a public wow factor on the level of exotics. Whenever a Gen V comes through, people on the street will point and stare at them and other drivers direct jealous/irritated looks in their direction. People don't react like that to Corvettes, Porsche GT3s, and even Aston Martins, but they do for the F cars and Lambos and Vipers as I've seen firsthand. This is in jaded Walnut Creek of all places. A poser friendly Viper might not be such a hard business case to make. It's a better way to fund the snake's continued existence than, god forbid, a Viper sedan or SUV (Ram SRT10 is acceptable) or it going away altogether.

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Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

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That gen II looks positively cheerful in a time where auto design is ruled by angry catfish.

Looks sweet dirty or clean

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