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Spiffness posted:

If you watch F1 on-boards they aren't tweaking switches and knobs entering, mid, and on corner exit. They do adjust settings but not when actually cornering, that's madness.

From my non-driver experience:

There are times when drivers do this, for example if someone's been using whatever setting to approach for a pass and then need something on the coming straight, you have a perfect timing for a mid-corner settings change. Takes balls, but these guys are already crazy. Rewind that some yards, if the guy ahead of you is just awful at entry onto a certain corner you might dial up entry mode while on the straight, and then need to get back to balanced mode asap to break away, maybe you know that turn and a good moment to do it.

But they're not playing with buttons all lap long, in a situation where they're really putting a lap together it's a couple of dials for portions of a lap- like at Suzuka you might need a certain bias for the low-speed sections but high-speed balance for the back straight. Two or three changes, maybe. And for normal situations where they're just staying on pace, eff the buttons and drive the car.

Wasabi the J posted:

I thought the idea was that they are boosting at different revs, but I don't know anything about engine modification.

Depends on the application. Sometimes they can do precisely that- one turbo is designed for low revs and the other for max revs. But sometimes you only need max power (drag racing) or you can remedy turbo lag in another way (6+speed dual-clutch gearbox) or e-penis so you just stick on MORE TURBOS.

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IOwnCalculus posted:

In a race, you're going to see track grip levels change as the rubber on the track builds up (as well as the marbles off-line), you're going to possibly deal with weather conditions changing, and tire wear / fuel consumption from pit stop to pit stop.

Just a clarification, people mentioned there being settings for corner turn-in, middle, and turn-out- I was just saying while they do make frequent changes, it's not three per turn. A couple of switches for major areas of the track, plus extras for changing conditions as the race wears on (and "confirm" and KERS and so on) is about right for "normal" racing. Someone racing harder might throw in more, someone saving fuel might do less.

MrChips posted:

a limited top speed of 140 mph.

Shrapnac posted:

That's a shitload of aero to still be slow as gently caress.

...does 140 really warrant that much aero? I'd prefer simpler, less expensive cars- they'd be more personable that way too.

I mean call me crazy, but I look at this and think "vroom"


...while I look at this and think, I dunno, Michael Bay?


I mean it looks aggressive, but I don't want to drive it. Maybe I'd like to see it transform and fight other robots, but I don't associate it with driving.

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Lord Lilf posted:

2015 Z06 leaks: panties drop world- wide.

http://jalopnik.com/2015-chevrolet-corvette-z06-this-is-it-1499298030




Looks fuckin' hot.

To me it looks like this is how the car was designed, and they pulled some things off for the base model. The racing Corvettes are awesome, and this looks like one.

Random onboard porn from the C6 generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8saOK-uHY4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MijGIm_lDtA

You can play them both at the same time and it's twice as good.

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toplitzin posted:

I wasn't the only one who thought so either.

And of course the race is out of the ESPN3 replay list, and changed to Circuit of the Americas/Austin.

It was literally spinning backwards, then spun out in the forward direction like it was powered. So very very confusing.

KERS perhaps? Don't recall hearing anything.

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Valt posted:

Except for the fact that those vetted are rwd. It's pretty easy to look up and see.

2wd LeMans cars have gone 4wd (via KERS) lately, so this is not completely crazy.

I see what the guy's saying, to me it does look like there's a split-second where the wheel is going backward and stops right on the edge of the track, then the front really shoots some dirt back. I think it's just that the wheel is turned slightly into the direction of the slide, plus camera angle. Most of the dirt is actually going sideways, but as the sidewall digs in it is imparting spin, put them together and it looks like the wheel is flinging the dirt. It's a neat effect.

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Slavvy posted:

What's funny is that Toyota currently possess the architecture to make a 370z type car and just aren't because of policy. All you would need is the IS250's subframes on a coupe body, with a slightly hopped up version of the IS350 v6 and a manual transmission out of the IS250 with stronger internals. It wouldn't be costly or difficult from a manufacturer's perspective and would basically be a direct competitor for the 370z, built using the same parts-bin principle and with similar performance.

Toyota could be making a 370z, but Nissan should be making a proper Fairlady. There's rumors of a turbo-4, but bah, and I wonder if it's going to be fat like the other z-series cars.

Random image I stumbled upon while searching for anything new about the concept.


A Fairlady isn't fat, she just has some curves in the right places.

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Slavvy posted:

Also I drove a 350z with the more powerful engine the other day and I don't know what people complain about, the car felt really responsive and tense.

Between 3 and 600lbs more than an RX8, for instance, or up to half a ton more than the classic 240z. It's more that it's not a 240z. Because 240z.

Speaking of which:
http://chrisoncars.com/2013/04/grace-beauty-soul-toyota/

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Phy posted:

Hey, whatever happened to the guy whose boss gave him a replica Cobra? I remember the start being all "YOU WILL DIE" and people posting pictures of the trippy part of 2001 and then I don't know if he ever posted again.

Always related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-JQksYxgM0

Carroll Shelby built Bill Cosby a car that did, in fact, end up killing a man.

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Sudden Infant Def Syndrome posted:

Why not spread the rear wheels apart a little further and make it more stable?

Because baby boomers want all the thrill of owning a motorcycle without any of the thrill?

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T1g4h posted:

It's AI, and Previas are AI as gently caress? I mean seriously, supercharged Minivan. That's even cooler than

Can we agree to never again speak of the man who chooses to be called the manner in which woodland animals reproduce?

Also, the greatest van is always a Ford Transit Supervan, any generation.
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Guinness posted:

Cool old Subaru Sambars



This makes me miss the days when pickup trucks weren't mile-high plastic Johnson extenders.

More this:



Less this:

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Guinness posted:

It was a bad example, but his point is that there are no small trucks on the market anymore. Even today's "small" trucks are ginormous compared to 90s era small trucks. And yeah of course all vehicles have bloated in size compared to their 90s-era counterparts, but trucks way way more than anything else.

Not only the size but the stadium truck is also doing fun truck-things and getting dirty and torn up instead of living on blacktop and being a lifestyle device, without having to be three miles long, which apparently people are confused about judging by modern advertising.

And going from this being a tricked-out ride (very nearly my dad):


To this being standard:


I especially hate how the trucks come lifted a foot off the tires now, for penis no reason. My dad got a newer Silverado, and when I'm there I refuse to drive it on the backcountry roads. You're miles away from the ground, you can't see anything, and your only connection to the wheels seems to be via a series of beacons. Driving his old S10 I'd be barreling around the hills having a blast.


I approve this conversion.

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13 INCH DICK posted:

Cavaliers are actually pretty nice for what they are

xzzy posted:

Great "first car" for an entire generation of high school kids who's parents didn't have much money.

Appropriately they all look beat to poo poo.

I had a '94 Cavalier as a first car and I might still be in it if not for two separate incidents of people ramming the bright red car out of nowhere, poor girl was at like 140k and still trucking (admittedly, only because my dad had done quite a bit of work on it). When the family were all piled in the acceleration was a safety hazard, but that's pretty much exactly what you want in a starter car.


:911:

Bonus simulation of how I always hoped she'd go out:

revdrkevind fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Aug 11, 2014

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SlimManFat posted:

aaaaaand checking out the classifieds for old cavaliers. god damnit.

Great first car back in the day, hilarious choice for dirt track racing, but seeing them modded up... meh.

You can really just get a Neon or a Civic or something and have a driver's car if you want to go rat style. Either of those will actually be worth fixing up.

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AirRaid posted:

This was at the bottom of the last page and might have been lost, but I need to ask - does the flame at the exhaust indicate that he's still got his foot on the gas? Or only that he's very recently taken it off?

Surprised I didn't see a more goony response. In rally it could very well be an anti-lag system or "bang-bang unit". Some fuel gets tossed into the exhaust and ignited to keep the turbo spooled at maximum speed, even while the driver's foot is off the gas. So the flames most likely indicate his foot recently came off the gas and the bang-bang is still running. Although yes, it could just be some regular backfire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antilag_system

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Tekne posted:

They caught a catfish too.

'at's not a catfish.



THAT, is a catfish.

Tekne posted:

I would totally read an article about modern car faces and what animal or emotion they convey.

Well then I just have to


http://autopolis.wordpress.com/2012/02/25/2007-2012-mitsuoka-orochi-the-dragon-inspired-supercar/

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Boaz MacPhereson posted:

The SSTs are amazing. Robby Gordon is the best kind of deranged. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfG3KgSR7fU

My dad was/is a huge NASCAR fan, doesn't Robby Gordon crash every race? IIRC every single weekend I was hearing about his latest attempt to create a new work of abstract art by smearing his car all over the rest of the field.

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Slavvy posted:

Wouldn't eliminating body roll be counter-productive on a car without slicks? Like, if the weight can't gradually transfer onto the most stressed tyres, wouldn't they just start sledging really easily? Like how it's really easy to lock up the brakes if you just slam them on instead of applying progressively.

Are you just picturing really hard springs instead of an active system? The active system is keeping the weight over all four tires, maybe even leaning into the corner on entry, so all four tires share the load more evenly. Plus think about times when you get the weight transfer wrong, say coming into a fast chicane, or just because a bumpy track pitches the car the wrong way coming into a turn. So even if maximum sideways force were diminished, there could be other ways to make up time on certain circuits.

Not to mention the trump card of active systems- keeping your driver comfortable so they're fresher for longer. It's so... anti-racing.

xzzy posted:

Because taking drugs doesn't make you better at it.

Asterisk, smoking "performance enhancing" weed just before a motorcycle chariot race would be incredible.

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Terrible Robot posted:

If I didn't pass people on the "wrong" side I would never get anywhere. gently caress 'em if they don't like it.

The worst are the people that sit in the left lane, take forever to get out of your way, and then immediately get right back in the left lane and continue going slow. Get the gently caress right and stay right you idiots.

:argh: Stay out of the passing lane you bastards!

Passing on the wrong side is only a dick move if there are like 5 lanes and everybody is staying in the second lane to avoid ramp traffic, and you fly by doing 20 over on the ramp side. That's the dick move.


Or that awful haul in Indiana where trucks are allowed to use all lanes, so you can end up with a four- or five-lane turtle race. And it seems like none of the rednecks have speedometers because somebody in the passing lane will just suddenly coast down to 45, look around and realize their sister is waiting for them, and suddenly mash on the pedal back to 70. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Or the highways in Ohio where there are so goddamn many "exit only" ramps on both the left and right, complete with misleading thruway markers, so all the truckers and slow drivers huddle in the middle lane while anyone trying to get anywhere has to weave in and out of traffic like a fighter pilot dodging clouds of flak. I once got in a caravan of cars who were doing 90 through traffic and we looked like a game of Centipede.

And why do people in that area think they have to slow down and match speed with the bumpers of every trucker? I swear in Ohio I hover my hands over the cruise control, as the driver in front of me approaches the back bumper of a truck I hit Cancel, wait a second, Resume. Then as they pull alongside the cab do it again. Coast for a few seconds, resume. I don't even have to wait for them do it, I've memorized the delay so I just run the program and try not to facepalm when they conform to expectation.

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I can only imagine that the guy was rearing back to point forward as his steed charges off toward the grandtsand the sunset.

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InitialDave posted:

I was going to defend him, as it's not like everyone on the planet would instinctively recognise a driver who's been dead for twenty years, but, er, yeah. It's written right there on the car, dude...

At what point was the law passed where you may never refer to Ayrton Senna as anything except his proper name?

Ayrton Senna, being the guy in the photograph... etc.

My favorite F1 driver as a wee lad and I watched the day he died. Back the gently caress up, son.

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xzzy posted:

It's not like your wang changes size every month. Once you figure out the appropriate size, that's all you're gonna need for the rest of your life.

The problem is...


When all the local dealerships have small lots, and the models all have a zillion useless options so it's hard to tell what you're getting, sometimes you end up not being able to find the car you were looking for.

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88h88 posted:

UKDM is back again.



It seems like Michiganders add a twist to this with their ultra-offense driving. A car could be going 25 in a 70, but if they see a gap opening in front to which another car might use for turning, they FLOOR it so as to position their car perfectly in the blind spot of the offender. That'll show him.

And if there's a perfectly reasonable gap and you signal before entry just to make them aware? Gap closed. Guaranteed. And they just hang in the blind spot, no matter how you change your speed, just to make sure it's maximally annoying.

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"Hey, pause the car!"
-iPod user
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Powershift posted:

This is kinda neat, never really thought about it before.



veyron!

Classic YouTube / Autodesk version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAhPYR05V0

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Mister Kingdom posted:

What kind of twisted mind comes up with that?

Twisted minds?

For some reason this made me want to revisit the Pontiac Fiero:


Go ahead. I'll wait for you to finish. Did you notice the pop-up headlamps? Yes.

In case you missed the many stories of things that were wrong about this car, here are a few to get you started: Although marketed as a sports car, the engine was designed for low-revving efficiency, and was never intended to be redlined. The low-revving economy engine produced a whopping significantly less than 100 horsepower, so owners were probably of a mind to really give it some pedal to see if there was more in there. Breakdowns soon followed. GM just recycled the tires from an economy car. And the brakes. And the suspension. Because why not? Drivers who managed to get the car up to speed were greeted with a strange mix of economy suspension and one of the most rigid bodies of its era- the car was an absolute monster when it came to safety ratings.

But we want some really diabolical design. So how about the engine fires?
-Slightly defective connecting rods could fail dramatically, causing the car to catch fire.
-But all you had to do to avoid the problem was keep your oil topped off, and the rods would never be stressed so as to fail.
-Helpfully, the oil stick proudly declared that the car held 3 quarts of oil. In reality, the car held 4.5 quarts.

Oh, but you read your manual so you know the right amount of oil, no fires for you! So you put your car on a lift to give it a service and oh I'm sorry you idiot you just ruined your car. Didn't you know there are massive, fragile cooling ducts running the length of the vehicle which can be easily crimped by a lift thus causing overheating? You moron.



Hall and Oates. Goddamn.

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Two Finger posted:

gently caress the R34 was a handsome car.

It's kind of like the boxy older WRX, I can't look at one and not want to hop in it and have some fun. The GTR/R35 is such a stealth ride though, especially in black so it hides some of the detail. I've been pulled up beside one in the traffic and asked a passenger what they think, they say I dunno it's whatever family car. Then the light changes that low growl starts to warm up. I really like this effect.

LloydDobler posted:

The most AI espresso...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EqEP-N6TlU

If I drank coffee I'd want one.

Who will we use for the closeup of the screwdriver? Oh I know, the lady with the impeccably done French manicure.
:italy:

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Two Finger posted:

What does 'absolute' mean in this context?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rally+pace+notes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemba_Inertia_Notes_System, "absolute" means "absolutely flat out"

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iwentdoodie posted:

The R35 is loving huge dude. It doesn't just look big, it IS big.

It's worth noting that most modern cars are gigantic monstrosities, as cars in general have grown. Being someone who grew up with and appreciates smaller cars, most family cars now terrify me. It seems like all truck designs now begin by adding a three foot tall plastic extender between the bottom of the body and the wheels. But I digress.

Alongside a modern Mustang, the R35 is pretty normal.

First Google result I clicked on:


I always thought the LFA looked huge until I saw one in person, but it's actually tiny.

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Fucknag posted:

One car that I always thought was huge but is actually pretty petite is the Veyron. For years, all I saw was dramatic low camera angles and Top Gear lines about the vast, spacious interior, giving the impression of this grand two-place road cruiser (that happens to go 250+), but it's the exact same length as my Protege (albeit a foot each lower and wider).

Random crappy reference images:

Baby Veyrons:


vs. R35:


vs. LFA:


The LFA is disturbingly tiny, especially in the vertical dimension.

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Wasabi the J posted:

I wish they did more comparison shots with cars we're really familiar with. I would love a coffee table book of exotic cars next to a Tamry on every page, just to give the reader a sense of scale and proportion, so one may appreciate wonderfully rare cars in a new way.

1) Kickstart it.
???
3) Profit.

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Admittedly the artist is quite good. But there's a lot you can do in a render to try and maximize the way someone reacts to a car.



Trying to find GT40 renders.



Or another example of dynamic lighting, plus old ads are awesome.

dreesemonkey posted:

I'd like to think his thought process was "gently caress it, when am I ever going to get to drive a original GT40 again?"

Though admittedly I have no idea how the goodwood festival of speed works. I assume rich people allow racing drivers (or the owners themselves) to drive their cars on the track.

Mix of both, really. Also, the cars are on historic tires (read: cross-ply). Driving a restoration GT40, at full pace, in the wet, on historic tires, is still totally ballsy but the way it's handling is not at all unusual for the circumstances. Also, you can look up the Goodwood festival on YouTube and they have an interview with the driver, he was just racing, no thoughts about the cost of the car that's not his job.

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Delivery McGee posted:

You don't, really -- I remember a Motor Trend story years ago (right around/just before Tony George took his ball track and went home) where the author got to drive a CART car, and to check if the seat was at the proper height the crew chief put his fist on the cowl and asked the author how many fingers he could see, the correct answer being somewhere between one and two -- you only need to see out the corners for passing, just enough out the front to know if you're up somebody's rear end, and what's behind you doesn't matter.

Obviously that's helmet-in-the-slipstream, but from what I'd guess and what it looks like there, LMP coupes have the same sort of thing, to keep the roofline low for reduced drag.



With the gigantic tires on LeMans cars now, the side vision is absolutely terrifying.

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Go drive a 15MY Vanquish with that same ZF 8spd auto and then tell me that car would be better served with a 6spd manual.

Now if only we could get her with four on the floor. :allears:

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eyebeem posted:

Our lovely Fiat 500 is fun as hell thanks to being a manual. I can only imagine how boring an auto would be.

Even in an auto version, it still puts a smile on my face flying over bumps on the springy suspension. It's not that the car wants to kill you, it's that it wants to die together.

Unless you own one of those horrible made-for-white-women XL versions of the car or some nonsense.



I hope every single person this ad represents contracts rear end cancer.

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eyebeem posted:

2013 500 Pop. Bought it used with all of 3,000 miles on it, popped the hood at the dealer and saw that it had a Mopar intake installed, and later realized that it also had a Mopar exhaust and short shifter kit. Whee.

Drove an auto of almost that exact car over a weekend, minus aftermarket bits. Slap it into sporty semi-auto mode and redline the engine pulling out of an office park getting up to the blistering speed of over 45mph.
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The capability of a given car means a lot less than the relative amount of fun you can have with it.

Slavvy posted:

No. It's that I want to have fun driving a car. Not-manual cars aren't as fun. Q.E.D.

This is a really dumb conversation. Manual is more AI, so manual wins here. If you want to argue for auto, post some drool-worthy cutaways of cool auto systems. Or something.

Here's a guy driving a powerglide:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nV6bFyJNBww

Powerglide is an auto transmission compatible with maximal fun.

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Found a better quality version of that one video with all the Walter Röhrl footwork:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdy8CG09rSU

It's been like two days since you last saw that one right?

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All minivan antics are the best antics.

There was some construction project that resulted in a concrete pad constantly covered in a thin layer of water, and the construction crew didn't cover up the access road when they left.

One time we got a minivan to do 13 donuts- after cutting the gas.

The only people who weren't totally happy with the 13 donuts were the ones hanging on to the outside.

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InitialDave posted:

I think it's the attitude of "If it works, no point making it look pretty if you're going to be messing with it or smash it up next weekend anyway".

The attitude most people THINK Japanese car gangs have is immensely different from the attitudes they actually have (on average, of course there are some bad examples).

Might Car Mods' Kei To The City is a decent take:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu6h5IoqkoA

One guy has a fuckton of exhaust pipes out of his car. It looks ridiculous. The host asks why. He says, "That's Mickey and Minnie Mouse" ... "OOOOooooohhhhhh...."

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