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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

redreader posted:

Is it just me, or do the writers of this show have a massive hard-on for "this is on me", "that's on you", etc? I only ever heard that expression once before, and it was in one of the latest breaking bad episodes. I'm guessing they got it from SoA.

Sounds like something we need to get to the bottom of and figure out.

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

redreader posted:

Ok, fair enough. I'm not from the states but I've lived in northern california for 6 years and never heard it or read it before, and I read a decent amount. Thanks :)

Sorry, I wasn't making fun of you! It's just that SoA has a habit of repeating a lot of the same phrases over and over itself. Those next few posts were simply more examples :v:

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Spoeank posted:

I'm pretty down with the fact that apparently Tara learned to fight at the Starfleet Academy Hand to Hand Fighting Academy.

I came here to post this exact same thing. Rampant misogyny? Rape? School shootings? Whatever. Tara used the loving double fist. We have a closet trekkie in SoA.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Cage posted:

But they didnt get it from a beer supplier, they got it from the Irish didnt they?

gently caress you you're just trying to get me to watch the episode again to confirm, no way am I doing that!

The IRA didn't give them a keg of beer as a gift, no. Chucky told Gemma they needed beer and soda, Chucky got a delivery of beer. Of all the things to complain about in SoA, this isn't one of them.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Ghostpilot posted:

All that aside, how did they get the shamrock pen? They specifically said that the beer delivery man left it which is what clued them onto the keg.

The beer delivery man was an IRA agent who left the pen because that's an easy way out for "How will the notice the bomb?"

Ghostpilot posted:

If it was some new guy, why did they let him anywhere near the clubhouse? Delivering a keg-sized bomb to a place full of people who are in high alert is not a plot point one simply glosses over.

Welcome to Sons of Anarchy.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Say what you will about the episode, but the prison church scene was one of the most entertaining things Perlman has done in the series for at least 4 seasons.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

NEVER GO IN FYAD posted:

That's not the one I'm talking about you idiot.

The image in the spoiler box is.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

stuxracer posted:

Yeah I am pumped about the episode tonight. I hope they do a lot of cool special effects for this break out.

(probably getting: 5 minutes of driving while slowly focusing in on character faces, tire screech, 1 puff of smoke, and done.)

No, there's sure to be some incredibly poorly done CGI blood spatter.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

kill your idols posted:

If you watch the promo, he's tied up, gagged, and raped in the back of a van by the Chinese.



If Happy dies I riot.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Propaganda Machine posted:

Then again, he burned Gemma pretty good when she "jokingly" suggested he marry her. After knowing her for, what, three weeks now?

I'm still not sure if that was actually a joke or not. It certainly wasn't acted or treated as one. I'd like to think that Nero was at least saying "You know what, marrying into your life could gently caress things up for me just a bit."

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Cage posted:

gently caress this stupid rear end show. I'm embarrassed I bought the S1 dvd.

Put some kind of "gently caress Kurt Sutter" sticker on it, put it on a park bench or something, take a picture of it, and then act like you "found" it over twitter. With any luck, Sutter's head will explode, or at least his twitter will.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

tonic316 posted:

Sounds good but you know he will gently caress it up with all his rape and other dumb poo poo.

You kidding? He probably set it in that period just so he could demean women in as many ways as possible and pass it off as "history."

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

What was the context for that again? I think I remember laughing at it but I'm always up for another reason to hate this show I can't stop watching.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I mean, I know I shouldn't just copy/paste stuff from his twitter feed but what the hell.

So what I'm getting from this is that the SoA video game will be a Woman Beating/Rape Simulator.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

I was watching Battlefield Earth on Rifftrax yesterday and surprised to see Forrest Whittaker and Kim Coates are basically Travolta's co-stars. Are a lot of The Shield/SoA actors in that Scientology hollywood clique? I have no idea, I don't follow that stuff.

It would explain a few things, at least about why all these big name actors are on such a badly written (and often acted) show.

Sons of Anarchy is a ridiculously popular TV show. Is it really so hard to believe that actors want to appear on it?

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

comes along bort posted:

So turns out Kurt Sutter isn't a lovely writer, but in fact is a precog:



I guess we can't complain about the weapons plot being silly and far-fetched any more.:v:

Bonus hilarity: This is the senator that went to the Supreme Court in 2012 (or 2013?) to argue for the creation of laws against violent video games.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

JaddaCaddra posted:

So, Happy and Ratboy are gonna be main cast this coming season.

http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/niko-nicotera-david-labrava-upped-to-regular-on-sons-of-anarchy/

Who wants to bet that this'll be an exact copy of Dexter's situation, where some actors are upgraded to mains, and they proceed to do nothing that indicates it. Possibly even less than they did before.

It means Sutter is going to kill them in some hilariously gruesome and/or "call of duty" manner.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

haljordan posted:

Now he's one of the world's most proficient murderers, capable of disposing of anyone with zero trace.

That's not hard, considering all you need is water in broad daylight.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

KilGrey posted:

The final scene should be set like, 50 years in the future when Jax is in his 80's. It's him finally clearing out some stuff in the garage and he finds and reads the letters. His head snaps up, wide eyed, he mutters, "Jesus christ..." and then keels over and dies, finally having gotten to the bottom of things when it's far past the point of mattering. Fade to Reaper.

Fixed.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010


If it wasn't for the box with the lumber texturing I'd say that's actually pretty good. I guess that's supposed to be a gun crate?

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

rejutka posted:

Never a skateboard when you need one.

She could probably make do with an over-sized coffee cup.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

High Lord Elbow posted:

TIME TO GO HOOD, SISTAH!

Did anything ever come of that, or will we see the ramifications of going hood this season?

Or is the DA lady dead too?

Of all the dumb things to happen in Sons of Anarchy I think that is perhaps the dumbest, even ahead of the CIA twist. What possible use was there for her to wear a wig? Does she wear it all the time, even at her office? Did she wear it only because she was going to Charming? Is it something she wears on all cases she looks into so she can slightly confuse a couple of people when she takes it off? Does Kurt Sutter think the sight of a "black" hairstyle is inherently intimidating?

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Modus Operandi posted:

SOA is definitely the worst show that i've followed this far. It's like one of those trainwrecks you can't peel your eyes away from. You have to watch terrible things unfold to their logical destructive conclusion.


Speaking of which I get the sneaking suspicion Sutter has racist fantasies in real life too. It's just the ugly way SOA keeps portraying minority characters and how every scene is there to milk audience schaudenfreud from their hyper violent deaths. After 6 seasons of this you can't just chalk it up as all just a coincidence.

I'm fairly convinced that the entire minority cast is there to be slaughtered in various unpleasant ways.

With shows like Sons of Anarchy or Californication I'm 100% convinced we are seeing someone's fetish on screen at some point every week. In Californication its at least mildly funny most of the time and generally harmless, even when it veers into uncomfortable territory. In SoA we get poo poo like Sutter jerking off to church pastors in a bisexual threesome getting murdered.

Okay, he's probably not actually jerking off. You don't have to for it to be a fetish.

Try not to think of the implications of this in regards to the child porn ring.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

LobsterMobster posted:

I like how video gamey this episode was

"Sorry, Jax. I'd love to back you against Marks, but first you have to kill this one guy"

"Ok, you killed that one guy, now help me smash up the Chinese businesses. Press RT to swing the bat!"

Two seasons ago it was some Call of Duty poo poo. Now its some GTA poo poo.

comes along bort posted:

Isn't that vandal turned babysitter, now hooker it seems like 15?

I think you're combining the babysitter Ratboy was loving with the porn actress that got smacked by her dad.

Unless they actually are the same person, I'm hardly paying that much attention at this point.



Where the gently caress is Venus, Sutter :mad:

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Finndo posted:

Did you notice this time they aren't getting to the bottom of it. I can't remember what they are getting to, but the bottom it wasn't.

This time its other people who have to get to the bottom of what Jax is doing.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

You know, when the mother and cop lived (even if he didn't manage to remember even woman cops generally know how shoot back and not run from guns like a teenager in a slasher movie) I thought to myself "Wow, Sutter managed to restrain himself from violently murdering a woman for one whole episode!"

Welp.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

DangerKat posted:

Does Jax have a refrigerator big enough for all those dead hookers?

Well he would have if the Chinese didn't just blow up his ice cream shop :mad:

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Last Buffalo posted:

Why did they buy a candy store? Was there ever a reason given?

Who the gently caress takes their kids to a Mara Salvatrucha malt shop or an Aryan Nation snow cone cart? Why does anyone in Charming allow the club to exist? Is this all because they gave the new sheriff a bribe that wouldn't get her a down-payment on a Hyundai?

Charming just really likes Bobby's Elvis impersonation.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

haljordan posted:

Sutter operates under the assumption that as long as it's just two gangs fighting, no one gives a poo poo. Even in the most crime-ridden city, regular automatic gun battles between two groups would bring allllllll kinds of attention. And now there's an entire building FULL of murdered women. Wonder how they'll gloss that over next week.

Let's not forget the ridiculousness of having someone fire a shotgun in a quiet lakeside neighbourhood, proceed to have their car run off the road into said lake, and then get rescued by a bunch of bikers pointing guns everywhere and apparently no one noticing.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Finndo posted:

Of all the cool ideas this show had, the one I liked best was the idea that this one town in the Central Valley was preserved as a sort of bucolic Mayberry by an uneasy alliance between local police and a motorcycle gang.

Also white supremacists, I believe. Which actually fits quite well.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

I know its hard to trust police these days but this show is just taking it to several levels of ridiculousness. Apparently collaborating with known felons (who are still on probation?) and violent offenders to illegally detain and assault people in the middle of the street is perfectly okay in whatever port that is. A lawyer from the mall would be able to get Lin's entire crew off every single charge from that.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

chesh posted:

Amen. Also, he has the whole "dead inside" thing going for him.


What was this part? I thought Bobby said they would have to pay out to the families, but I paused it in the middle of his sentence and didn’t bother to go back. What group is paying?


UUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHH I hate you for pointing this out. Though, to be fair, apparently Sutter is aware that none of us (except you!) are paying close enough attention to remember last week vs three weeks ago. I still hate you, though.

A friend of mine lives in a small town near the PA/WV border. On Friday he told me there's been a knock at the door, and someone had told him an outlaw biker captain who hailed from the area had died and they're having a funeral party in town Saturday and that everyone should stay indoors. He thinks they were The Iron Horsemen, which led us to their website, which is loving hilariously awful.

https://www.ironhorsemenmc.com/

Why even have a web presence, if this is what you come up with? Juice could have coded a better site back in season 1.

I bet they didn't properly secure the rights to that song either!

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Armyman25 posted:

Ok, assault and rape are not laughing matters, but the fact that he kidnapped this woman, then forced to to withdraw $40 from her ATM is pretty SAMCRO.

Commit horrific violent crimes, steal two 20s.

He also robbed her. Obviously he only needed $40 more and didn't want to be a jerk.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

So I'm well aware that legal proceedings are literally the last thing I should pick on in SoA but can anybody think of any reason that Gemma's statement would have any effect on Lin? Unless she says that she saw Lin himself walking out of Tara's house with a bloody shirt on all she's able to say is that "I saw a person of Asian descent leave my house shortly before Tara's body was found." They can't even give the police the guy to testify that Lin gave the order, because he's dead!

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

The woman cop deciding not to make a statement that the Sons were doing something with a gang of neo-nazi's that killed her partner is the most loving ridiculous thing this season has done yet. Like, what the gently caress. High school? Really? That's the best you can come up with, Sutter? Apparently "keeping Charming whole" doesn't include "not killing its police force."

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

mewse posted:

You've never covered up the murder of a police officer because you might get someone you went to high school with in trouble?

Not for Neo-Nazi's I haven't. That's just crossing a line :colbert:

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Armyman25 posted:

Oh hey, the teaser for Justified is out.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/24/justified-final-season-teaser/

Seems like it might be just a tad more satisfying than the final season of SoA.

I sure hope it can do at least that. I didn't hate Season 5 of Justified at all but after Season 4 (especially the hour of power that was "Decoy") it felt like mostly just treading water. Hopefully Raylan and Boyd finally squaring off directly put it over the top.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

FuriousxGeorge posted:

Somebody needs to compare the body counts between this show and Dexter because I'm pretty sure Jax is a more prolific and less repentant serial killer. Even if his personal body count is lower he is kind of a bigger monster because at least Dexter seems to realize he SHOULD think murder is wrong. I mean, Dexter's wife was ACTUALLY killed by one of his enemies and he didn't go on a mass murdering revenge spree over it.

I think you'd have to include murders done by the rest of SoA on Jax's orders as well. If talking about how you smothered a prostitute to death to a man who apparently isn't ever going to betray you over it is enough to get you marked for death then refusing to shoot people as ordered is most likely enough as well.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

CloFan posted:

This isn't the same roof from previous seasons, yeah? I mean it looks the same and is probably the same set, but wasn't the original roof supposed to be TM?

I guess its the warehouse where that other member that no one cares about now was killed by Lin, for the guns. That was by the docks.

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

JHomer722 posted:

Remember when Unser helped cover up Juice's murder of a random Chinese hotel worker? Why all the concern for Lin?

There's been enough killing. But not enough to actually get tell the police about it.

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