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tonic316 posted:Also did anyone go "You're dumb as gently caress" when he thought maybe the Kings were going to go with Popes guy for the gun connection? The IRA in real life have dealt with ETA in spain, FARC in Columbia, the Palestinian Liberation Organisation, and Gaddafi in Libya so I didn't see the show version of they totally refuse to deal with non northern European whites coming.
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Oct 9, 2013 16:06
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Just when I thought Juice was going to be the new Otto. I wonder if there will be a video that super imposes Sutter onto the fat guy's head. Real deep.
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Oct 22, 2014 16:15
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I know an accountant who has an soa hoodie. He's a really short fat man who has never stated a controversial opinion of any kind but I ran in to him one weekend when he wearing it and ever since I've just had this fascination with what the gently caress is going on in his head that he wears it proudly in pubs. I have no idea if he has a bike or anything. He's young enough that that wouldn't be hilarious but given his general demeanour and job its just really fascinating.
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Nov 3, 2014 03:12
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What I couldn't believe at the time was August's ability to see into the future. I know Jax will want to be alone and send everyone away so I will break the fatman's jaw and put a gun on him. Like if they just did the swap and let him scream at the preacher's son what then. They get into the car and get a free gun? Would they have been confused and been like fatman did you have this all along? Why did you not free yourself?
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Nov 6, 2014 16:26
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Show needs a Dexter crossover, Gemma get away clean on a boat by going through a hurricane and then wakes up on table with lumberjack Dexter standing over her and all he says is "this makes as much sense as anything you were doing" fin roll credits to circus music.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:59
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Best moment is Abel finally tells Jax and they cut away to titles before you can really see him react. Were they afraid he would act? In a good show that kind of moment would be so much more important than excruciatingly long shots of a pulled out eyeball
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Nov 12, 2014 05:31
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I never thought about it but how does he have only black mercaneries too? Like I guess the criminal overlord doesn't need to be an equal opportunity employer but Mark or whatever his name was didn't really seem like an idiot. Apart from trusting Jax I guess Goofballs fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Nov 14, 2014 |
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Nov 14, 2014 01:17
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Wasn't potential long lost sister loving a potential in that
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Nov 15, 2014 13:19
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I kind of forget what happened to claudette and bearded guy who can get you raped in prison. That Dutch was the serial killer all along would have been the most retarded thing. Really wow.
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Nov 17, 2014 17:23
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I felt kind of bad for Juice, he was so happy that he was going to be who he was supposed to be again and he had this look like now its time for my pat on the head and Jax's come in with "forget about that, my problems are the real things, who cares about your sacrifices anyway" and its like at some point he realises that Jax will never care about his side of things. It would have made a brilliant comedy scene. Jimmy Smitt's acting was pretty good. Guy looked devastated. And then Sutter decided to lighten the mood with a keystone cops routine. I remember when Breaking Bad was doing Ozymandias and the episodes around that. It felt like an anvil on the chest the whole time. Its like Sutter knows he can have that anvil but then he writes acme on the side of it and turns pressure into ultra racist Bugs Bunny. On that note that Gemma moment of "I know I almost certainly got a guy tortured and murdered but you're saying he was the wrong guy, gently caress it all chinese look alike so who gives a poo poo really" You can't even say that's kind of racist but more what the gently caress is wrong with you because its terrifying. Like if it was played that way it could have been. Instead it was just baffling. Like it was soviet dictator level callous and unthinking but according to the whole logic of the storyline it should matter immensely to her. I was kind of half afraid they were going to kill Jax at the end. Like at the end of the third season of boardwalk empire. But then no, you wandered off to let them debate how deep the hole you dug for them is and to conspire but then they all inexplicably love him. My other favorite moment with Jax and he had a lot of them this time was making a heartfelt promise to Unser and then betraying it within like five seconds. Another comedy moment if it was played the right way. The actor did good work in fairness. Just wow that character. Goofballs fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 07:57
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Go play the video game. You will have a real good time and not a sarcasm good time.
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Nov 19, 2014 16:06
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THey killed the chinese guy because Gemma claimed it was the chinese who killed Tara and not her. Jax found out Gemma killed Tara so Gemma is on the run. Nero is done with Gemma because of that and in an unrelated bit of news he's selling his part of the whorehouse to the mayan bikers who are now inexplicably incredibly friendly with Jax. Like a week ago in show time there was a giant massacre of all the prostitutes by the chinese who wanted to hurt Jax. Literally no one cares, law enforcement, other prostitutes, the mayans when buying it were cracking jokes about it. The black leader guy hired mercenaries and the club killed them all with help from the neo nazis who they are now friends with. Black leader also went temporarily into prison and he should be out shortly. Chibs is sleeping with the new sheriff. In public places for no reason. Tiggs is now sleeping with Boyd Crowder. No one in the club is a homophobe however unlikely that is so its ok. Jax had planned to kill all of the chinese but they got sent to prison. Juice went to prison to kill the chinese leader. Which he did but now he's being raped by the nazi leader and the club is good with that? And now Jax says hes going to have him killed for not speaking up about Tara. Robocop betrayed the club and they are after him too. Jax killed the president of another club for no reason, lied about why he did it (claimed the guy had admitted to them betraying to the chinese which he thought was true but it wasn't) and now the other clubs aren't happy. Unser is now against the club because Jax inevitably betrayed his trust again. Like how did he not see that coming. There were a whole load of insane plots that don't matter in anyway but that's more or less where we are.
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Couldn't stop thinking of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7vW1oEKP1k Murdering Unser in cold blood was pretty well pathetic? It seemed like Jax could have easily disarmed him by pretending to go along with him. It also seems like Jax agreed to let the other clubs kill him to allow black members to join? I wonder if some totally insane doublecross is coming there. Couldn't believe the totally inane fetch quest the Irish and then the black guy sent them on. Go collect ten Chinese asses to progress. And the Chinese gang raped juice. No one liked that character but loving really? It added nothing.
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Dec 3, 2014 14:22
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Like 100% unless its some sketchy means of changing the rules to make him innocent in the club's rules that the other presidents just didn't imagine. That would be pretty cheap but considering the convoluted legalese and the very quick transition into stuff that doesn't fit at all he went into with the black family its not totally unimaginable
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Dec 8, 2014 08:26
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Well there's going to be a videogame http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/12/08/sons-of-anarchy-the-prospect-mobile-game-confirmed-for-phones-and-tablets-in-2015 Sutter thinks its going to be an fps. On tablet. Is that possible? Anyway are you ready to press x to put that bitch in her place
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Dec 9, 2014 03:51
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Junior G-man posted:After suffering through this show, I think we all deserve a new life as a lumberjack. It would be kind of amazing if Jax went off to be a lumberjack and woke up on lumberjack Dexter's table.
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Dec 10, 2014 01:49
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Oh wow Vic Mackey got him in the end. Did it seem like they were going really slow? Like the cops were chasing him at 30 miles per hour occurred to me its on at different times. sorry Goofballs fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 05:40
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Some of it seems odd in retrospect. Did they not shoot Jax in the head because they wanted to spare themselves the pain of killing him? Like he's dead anyway. Did the bald one vote to get shot for that? Were they sure he was going to go under the truck or did they think he was going to Mexico. Why have an agonising vote if you are going to let him go do it himself anyway or let him go to Mexico? Was it because the other clubs was going to check the minutes? Do they do that? Also about the Irish, aren't they supposed to be terrified of them with their bombs and aren't the 6 old boys in Belfast going to get murdered in short order. That seems like terrible plan given everything in the universe of the show.
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Vaall posted:Seriously, this. I don't understand how in the editing room Sutter couldn't catch on to the ridiculousness of that scene(s). They probably looked at it, looked at the clock and thought gently caress it its not like anyone is tuning in next week
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Dec 10, 2014 09:14
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Its the people who liked the gangster bits of the sopranos and didn't want to see all that psychology bullshit. They want Paulie Walnuts beating up gardeners. I forget where I read about it but what's his name who made The Sopranos was complaining about it and it was like he tapped into the people who identified with Archie Bunker and didn't see him as a gross laughable figure the way he was intended. Sons of Anarchy was a show by a shitkicker for shitkickers. Of course they loved it. Its all the dickhead hard man fantasy stuff wrapped up in weak sentimentality, brutha
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I really really liked Carnivale as well. Its not quite cliffhanger ending but they had plans for comics or something but I don't know if that ever panned out. The first series is maybe a little slow but the second series is objectively brilliant tv. The whole thing is really but the second series just had the perfect pulse the first didn't quite have. Its a crying shame it didn't go further like Deadwood. Sons of Anarchy and Dexter get 7 series. Reminds you of that old Bill Hicks joke about the good dying young, JFK shot and killed, MLK shot and killed, Reagan wounded. Terriers was entirely charming too.
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Gonna need a new thread for the fun making though, my bet is it goes full sutter season 1.
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I think they were shooting the people with regular guns and then using the nailgun to seal the vacant building No one really like Marlo but he was kind of like a shark, an emotionless predator. The closest thing he had to a feeling was hurt pride. String and Avon were more relate-able because they had emotions and goals that you could understand whether you agreed or disagreed with them. Marlo was just soulless. After watching some of the Shield again I can kind of see how Sutter was useful in the writers room and why he was a loving disaster alone. In The Shield they constantly had these one episode dilemmas but they all got tied into the arc above them. Like at one point they pick up some famous black basketball player and they plan to hold him so he can't play that night so they can bet against his team. In itself it was a pointless little plot but they worked it into the overall story of Shane and Vic disagreeing more and more about how far it was ok to go and whether or not loving with minorities for the sake of it was all right. I wasn't in the writer's room but I'm guessing that Sutter is really good at coming up with these mmo like fetch quests but he has no idea how to tie them into an overall story so they end up coming off as totally random and at worst an opportunity to engage in some real ugly and pointless racism and or misogyny. On top of that he generally doesn't get what characters are about. Someone in this thread said at some point that he wanted to turn Dutch into a serial killer as like a stare too long into the abyss kind of thing. How loving stupid would that have been. Dutch is into serial killers because he wants to be recognised as a hot poo poo detective. That was the basic thing with the character being who he was or trying to be what he imagined himself to be. So it shouldn't be a surprise to me when he makes characters totally turn on what they were in an instant for the sake of a cheap shock but it usually is because the characters are played by actors and I end up half blaming them at first for doing their jobs.
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Aug 24, 2015 19:07
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The actor who plays bodie is really good, I'm surprised I don't see him in more things. The rest of the oz/wire cast are in loving everything
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Aug 26, 2015 01:44
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Yeah OZ was a hell of an experimental show and if you take that many risks some of them won't pan out but I felt like the horror was justified because they were exploring some other bigger thing or it was reinforcing the nature of the place. It was a long way from drowning someone in piss because you think the audience will want to get them and feel good about it
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Aug 26, 2015 13:09
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I wonder if those middle ages people are going to have beefs and if they'll use that phrase and if the irish will be supplying them with weapons
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Aug 26, 2015 16:14
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Inexplicable jazz chase in the finale was pretty funny
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Aug 26, 2015 18:30
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There were a lot of reasons SoA was terrible, on a technical level the fetchquest episode structure was the most infuriating episode to episode but there were bigger things. In one respect it was like Dexter, season 1 Dexter is pretty interesting. He thinks of himself as this quasi moral hero and he kind of shines the audience along into almost agreeing but then show totally disagrees with him with him whenever he does kill someone because it depicts the murders as some inhuman poo poo that he enjoys. In season 2 when the show still had some teeth left when Doakes finally sees him kill someone and Doakes already knows that he has killed people he can't even look at Dexter or act like he's a real human anymore. That's interesting to watch and think about. Maybe its less extreme than that but at the start in SoA the club are just villainous shitbirds and Jax gets that at the start. That's his antipathy. He doesn't want to be a 9-5 guy but his other option is a bunch of half smart butchers. But the more show went on the more the show was in favour of the club in the same way Dexter eventually turned into a superhero. They always did the same slimy setup too, the figure you don't like gives you a reason to retaliate against them and then inevitably the club reacts in an ultra violent way and the show encourages you to cheer them on. It was there from the get go when some guy who apparently beat up his girlfriend wants to get a picture on Jax's bike so they beat him about but hey he hits his girlfriend so it all right, right? And that started out less bad because that made you question how ok a guy is Jax, its somewhat ambiguous. By the last season that turns into drown him in piss, gently caress yeah get him. Now slap the pornstar around more. The evil slut! Personally it grossed me out that there was an audience out there who ate that aspect of it up. Like remember when Tig was Clay's incompetent pet monster who would burn the skin off a man's back or assassinate the wrong person but somewhere along the way he turned into this loveable guy who had a feud over a dog. I feel for that guy when he murders the wrong person, again. It was always kind of funny too how hosed up the things they chose to focus on were. Like when Jax finally finds out that Gemma killed his wife they just cut the scene. I can't remember what went on in the rest of the episode but I have the a vague sense that there was almost certainly a stupid chase scene and punishment violence against a target incapable of defending him or her self. What struck me as funny was that they had spent so much time focusing on that bullshit that they either didn't have the time or didn't trust the actor to act to focus on one of the most important character moments in the show. If it was the sopranos everything in the episode would have been about that because the stupid gangster hijinks are the background to the characters. I liked the third series of The Wire the most, mostly because of Bunny Colvin. That guy was great. There was a scene where he's at a community meeting and the pr guy is getting flustered and trying to tell everyone that everything is getting better and then Bunny takes over and tells everyone that he knows its not getting better and as things are there isn't dick he can do about it. So someone from the audience calls out what's the solution then and Bunny responds, I don't know but whatever it is it can't be a lie. That to me was the core line of the show because all the hosed up institutions that let the situation continue as it is are hosed up because somewhere along the way pretending there isn't a problem was easier or more personally beneficial than admitting there is one and dealing with it. Goofballs fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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I'm not sure anyone even liked season 3. It was mostly terrible melodrama in the Northern Ireland of the 1980s. Season 4 had a low of "What a Twist!" in it. I didn't much care for it. And Lem got blown up by a landmine for reasons.
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I suppose it depends on what kind of control Sutter has, if they let him do whatever the gently caress he wants its likely to have a few striking opening episodes but then his flaws as a writer will drag it down to comedy gif synopsis. On the other hand if there are strong voices that can put the brakes on Sutter and trim off the stupider poo poo he comes up with who knows. My bet is on bad episode of Spartacus level for the first few ones and then a lot of medieval style racial slurs, fetchquests and vague religious imagery from there on out. I don't have high hopes. But the last 5 seasons of Weeds were just dreadful stuff and I couldn't even finish it and everyone used to make fun of the showrunner Jenji Kohan for being a worthless hack writing a mary sue character who got to gently caress around a lot and had non existent relationship with consequences but then she came back and made Orange is the new Black which had 2 really, really fun seasons and one mediocre one so far.
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Sep 14, 2015 23:36
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2 minutes in and I'm just dying, did he just fus do rah someone?
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Sep 16, 2015 14:09
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I had things to go do so I only started watching again but yeah there is like a weird cgi dragon/demon on screen and it looks like something off a heavy metal album cover, its so loving stupid even if its a dream. There is also wiping other grown men's asses, slow flayings of randoms and child abuse all within 20 minutes. Oh and Bill the vampire is in it.
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Sep 16, 2015 18:55
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Why did he want to impersonate the torturer guy anyway, that just seems like an incredibly poor choice. Like he's moral ptsd man putting himself into a position where he might have to remove the skin from living people that's not even talking about how easy it would be to found out and vampire Bill seems to know somehow anyway. If that's a spoiler it seems like its going to be the premise of the show so its not much of one and you shouldn't care anyway because its so loving bad. Who signed off on this poo poo bad. Goofballs fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Sep 17, 2015 |
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Sep 17, 2015 01:08
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I meant more the men in grey suits who pay for it. Unless he financed the entire thing himself.
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I skipped the second episode and watched a bit of the third, one of the things that bugs me in the fight scenes is they have these knights on horses and as soon as a scuffle begins they get off them. Being on a horse was supposed to have been such a gigantic advantage in medieval combat that seeing them hop off because gently caress it the choreographers don't know how to work with that just grinds my gears Also the constant fades to grey. What the gently caress is with that.
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Sep 23, 2015 13:25
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It tends to be guys covered in armour on the horses getting ambushed by very spread out peasants with light weapons. Once it was in relatively rough forest terrain the other time it was just some open field. I don't know why they didn't even bother. Archers were a non issue as far as I can remember.
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Sep 23, 2015 20:58
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I know that's true but the show looks so loving cheap, like 80s fantasy poo poo. Then having a bunch of horses and armour around is probably pricey. I don't know. I'm just saying I'm not seeing the money on screen so much.
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I saw that as well, I hope it turns into just some medieval fanatics believing stupid poo poo but I have a sneaking suspicion the supernatural elements will be real rather than mystical mumbo jumbo and head injury hallucinations. God tv is so dead right now. I can't believe I watched more of this. Right now its just Scream Queens if I remember it, Masters of Sex which I half hate and I guess John Oliver shouting incredulously
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don't spoil nothing cocksucka
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