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Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Am I correct in thinking there won't be a stream of brook's court appearance?

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Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Hillsborough would be an extremely tough sell imo because while it was a massive and deplorable cover-up, to the people who don't like football they will still believe that all football fans are violent hooligans and to fans of other football teams there is still a pervasive feeling that Liverpool has a massive victim complex.

You will notice that while the football subforum on this site is pretty much universally in agreement that the cover-up was a terrible thing and people need to answer for the things they did, if you go to somewhere like say Red Cafe or a Leeds fan site you will see people still believing it was unticketed scousers stomping on children and looting corpses.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Nothing shady could possibly be going on when the head of the met meets up with people accused of widespread criminality.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Brown Moses posted:

Good piece from Neil Chenoweth, who was working with me on a major story that didn't quite make it, which is somewhat related to the article, Skulduggery on the good ship Murdoch.

Do you happen to know how much content in the book isn't currently in the public domain? I will get a copy for my father but I was wondering if its worth me buying one for myself too.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Temascos posted:

The Hacking Scandal has officially become the Duracell Battery of scandals, it just keeps going and going on. It's also the first time I have heard about this attempted "smear" camapaign about the health of tory officials, it's such a non-issue as I'm sure they have personal doctors watching them every step of the way, why risk a scandal over that?

Perhaps the health issue was freebasing.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I hope that for my birthday that recording gets released. I have been a good boy all year!

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

baka kaba posted:

Or a future hack job.

BROWN MOSES IN PERVY JOB SHOCK

INTERNET "MORAL CRUSADER" LEERS AT BUSTY BEAUTIES

Basement dwelling war perv only has eyes for our Kate's bombshells.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
In case you were wondering which side Borris was on he stepped up with this delightful article

bozzer posted:

You know I don’t want to be more at odds than usual with public opinion; but I have just read the Leveson Report – all four volumes of horror – and my first reaction is that the British press is really rather magnificent. Every paper, virtually without exception, can claim to be running at least one good and original campaign against some abuse, and some of them run several at once.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9718041/It-is-the-web-not-the-press-that-must-be-brought-under-control.html

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdnAaQ0n5-8

I think complete inability to think critically is more the issue.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Quote-Unquote posted:

I love your optimism, BM, but the police who were sentenced aren't super-wealthy and/or best buds with the PM. Nothing will happen to Brooks & co :(

I would have thought DC would do everything in his power to divest himself of Newscorp and the Brooks at this point, otherwise its a tailor made attack ad by Labor of 'Would you vote for a man who helped hack a dead girl's mobile?'

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

A human heart posted:

If they were, what are the likely repercussions? I mean, Blair's been out office for ages at this point, and while it makes Murdoch look bad that's nothing new.

If the second kid is his then I guess you could say he got Wendi into new labor

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Party Plane Jones posted:

From what I recall way back in '06 there was a big dustup where Murdoch said that denied the two newest kids voting rights for the company in his will. On television, which is the first his wife heard of it.

Where is Jerry Springer when you need two dads sitting either side of a mad woman awaiting the results of a paternity test.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
There are plenty of idiots who watch English football who still believe the sequence of events as published by the sun. Maggie did a lot to damage the reputation of football in England and it is not at all shocking that Hillsborough was pushed the way it was as a method of gentrifying the game and pushing the poor out.

The other side of the coin though is Heysel which tends to get papered over.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

highme posted:

It could also depend on the employer. I realize it's US vs UK, but I work for a corporation with UK employees as well. I was in the jury selection pool for a federal trial that could have taken a few weeks. I got $80ish per day from the feds & my regular pay from my employer for the 2 days I was there.

I did jury duty here in Aus about a month ago and I was getting 136AUD per day which included my transport costs and a 15AUD lunch allowance. For anyone with an employer they gave a cheque for the base rate to the employer then the employer paid the worker their full wage for the duration of the trial. As a subcontractor I was SOL and just got the 136 a day.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I believe the first utterance of CoulsonXBrooks was one evening in IRC during the Leveson inquiry by Pickled Tink. I was busy typing away a slashfic of the Right Hon. Raisa MEP (I only vote Neigh) and David Cameron and Tink suggested it as what if....

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Heresiarch posted:

High Frequency Bombing.

Somebody makes a joke tweet about the NASDAQ falling and the entire middle east gets turned to glass.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Darth Walrus posted:

So someone on another site is arguing that whilst IPSO is an obviously corrupt puppet of the media companies, its extended powers still mark an improvement, and it's better than government intrusion into the workings of the press via the royal charter. Part of this is because, he says, IPSO and the IPCC are largely unnecessary anyway - the law can deal with the illegal stuff, and our libel laws are sufficiently biased in favour of the claimant to provide a solid counter against the merely unethical stuff.

... I don't think I'm equipped with the relevant knowledge to deal with this.

Defamation cases are terrible methods for resolving damages because they take ages, cost more money than most people can realistically afford and rarely adequately right the initial wrong.

Just say the Sun ran a story saying every boat I had ever worked on had sunked killing all hands. For the entire duration of the trial I would be unemployable and the eventual correction would be so poo poo that I would have to hope the damages could support me for the rest of my life.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Plavski posted:

Goddamn.

At this point I should stop being shocked by new revelations but I still am.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

willie_dee posted:

Why would they want a copy of her birth certificate? Fraud?

Potentionally to blackmail Blunkett

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

willie_dee posted:

What problem would someone have with BM apart from just disliking his reporting? (And thus saying far more about them than him)

From what I could see in a brief look it was entirely pro-Assad stuff. I would take it as a complement that you are influential enough in the area that the SEA seems to want to discredit you.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Brown Moses posted:

From Hackgate devotee MrsTrevithick



Could use a pair of scissors

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Spangly A posted:

Can't stop laughing

a tragedy

Maybe if the Brooks' didn't want police not telling them they'd be showing up, they shouldn't allegedly dispose of a bunch of evidence the day of their last visit?

The sympathy push has begun and I bet not one juror buys it.

I am getting a vision of the Buzz and Woody meme with 'porn, porn everywhere' in my head as this proceeds.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
How do you claim you weren't attempting to pervert the course of justice when you hid evidence from investigators?

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Sounds like English jury duty is luxury. While waiting for a trial in the cattle pens we had no wifi but decent 4g signal but once I got onto a trial we had to surrender anything with a wifi connection at the start of every day. It might have had something to do with the trial I was on though which was a real media circus and had the judge give orders to punish reporters who were trying to film us leaving the court.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Automatic Slim posted:

For now. The heir to Rupes empire seems to see saw between Lauchlan & James. Rupert better make up his mind soon before he no longer can.

I thought Lachlan "wasn't interested".

I thought the onetel wanker was blackballed for being a massive embarassment to the family.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
On the run from the Syrian Electronic Army, News International and a paranoid schizophrenic with a stolen credit card, he has only 24 hours to identify and blog the location of a secret russian surface to air missile base using a second hand laptop and google street view. Will his internet stay online, will his firewall defend against ACK spam, will the delivery driver find his house before the naan gets soggy. This summer Jason Statham plays Brown Moses in The Transcriber.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Sad Rhino posted:

This is worth reading, although it could do without the sensationalism:

This wasn't a conspiracy of silence or the media deciding that tittle-tattle was more newsworthy than Mahmoud's lies. As the piece acknowledges, reporting legal argument before a trial has ended is illegal. Were the defence actually disappointed that the court reporters didn't want to risk imprisonment?

I think the suggestion is that the press would probably fall over themselves to report what happened if it didn't make them look like criminals instead of the victim.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

The paper's website is down entirely and I can't find the full text of the article anywhere. Is it still in your cache?

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

ukle posted:

'Dr Fox' has been charged with 9 sex offenses - 3 of which are against children. Seems to be a lot of cross over between being a male DJ and being a Pedo, at least in terms of the famous.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32022625

This is sad/ironic/hilarious because he was in the paedogeddon episode of brass eye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcU7FaEEzNU&t=559

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Isn't the IPCC being completely hosed and needing root and branch reform a funding of the inquest this thread was originally about.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Grundulum posted:

I don't think it's that large a fraction of the general population, but rather a surprisingly large fraction of the ruling class of England. I wonder how much of it is attributable to the fact that most of the people in question (a) are men, and (b) come from the English upper class. British aristocracy (at least historically) sent their children to boarding schools, at least some of which were all-male. Spending one's prepubescent and pubescent years in the almost exclusive company of boys seems like it could have unintended consequences.

I'm pretty much talking out of my rear end here, though, so anyone with firmer knowledge should feel free to correct me.

Its not just the English elite raping kids. Its a problem everywhere as demonstrated by Australia currently doing a massive investigation, Denmark having done one in the past and others mentioned upthread.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

PerpetualSelf posted:

Or non-existant.

Could you post what country you are from so I can link you any number of powerful elites raping children scandals

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

PerpetualSelf posted:

What is the difference between a rich and a poor person?


I never said that it wasn't.


Well it's either that or Old Brits are more pedophile than other people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Children_are_Sacred

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dutch-paedophile-club-to-fight-their-ban-at-the-european-court-of-human-rights-9622112.html

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/conspiracy-of-silence/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

It happens everywhere, its just the dirty linen is being hung out in the UK and Australia currently. More questions should be being asked of the countries where investigations were killed off in dodgy circumstances.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

SedanChair posted:

Not seeing a lot of complicity of heads of government in those examples (well except for the Church).

Real easy example of people in positions of power covering up sexual abuse to protect the existing power structure: Penn State

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

PerpetualSelf posted:

Isn't Australia just a British Colony?

In the same way the USA or India is

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Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Zombywuf posted:

Then why were they presented to a jury in the first place?

Either the barristers failed to challenge the relevance of the evidence when it was given or the judge considered the relevance of the evidence and decided it was appropriate to be heard. Also you should never let juries hear questions of law be argued because you may prejudice them in the way they view the case as a result of an argument that has no bearing on the evidence. If the jury does need directions on how to interperate the evidence and how it pertains to the charges then the judge will give the jury instructions when they are needed.

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