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Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Not sure what you guys are all worked up about, I think the Salacious Crumb puppet is still in pretty decent shape by the looks of it. You have to keep in mind, it was made 30 years ago.

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Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Misandrist Duck posted:

I grew up in the Star Wars EU. I spent 20+ years immersed in it, knowing the how and why to everything that made up Star Wars. It was mine.
"You merely adopted the expanded universe. I was born in it, moulded by it'

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Bung Harmer posted:

Dark Forces and Jedi Knight were amazing FPS games that were groundbreaking for the time. LucasArts built a 3D engine for those and it brought a lot of new stuff to the FPS table. I played the poo poo out of those. Outcast and Jedi Academy were built off the Quake 3 engine and it shows. They really felt like reskins.
I loved the Jedi Knight engine. I spent way too many years of my life making levels for that game.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I only recently started reading CD, and, no offense intended, until a couple days ago thought SMG was a gimmick account. I enjoyed his posts, and occasionally found them insightful, but assumed reading too much into stuff was his schtick and everyone was playing along and enjoying it.

Can't we just do that?

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

What say you about Star Wars?
Pretty cool, but I didn't get the part where their swords are made out of lasers.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

qxx posted:

-C3PO's head banging against the Falcon doesn't dislodge the light
I actually don't remember the scene in question, but it's the falcon - The light should dislodge from a slight bump.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Honore_De_Balzac posted:

I still don't get this change. If Obi and yoda are old men why the hell does Anakin revert back to his 20 year old self? His knowledge of the dark side gave him that young blood ghost form.

It's the one big change that I really like. Obi and Yoda don't change because they were at peace with themselves. Anakin gets to return to the last time he was at peace (as at peace as that guy ever was at least). The original version, a healed version of his adult self is a form that he really never experienced in life.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Tender Bender posted:

Anakin is at peace at the end of Jedi as an old man, though. He rights his wrongs, saves Luke, and dies as a proud father looking at his extremely accomplished son with his own eyes.

Yeah, but his soul shouldn't have to carry the scars of his physical form. (Unless of course, we feel he kind of has it coming. He was sort of a dick after all.) But then removing his scars is problematic because as I said, he ends up looking like a man that he never was.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

sassassin posted:

I don't know, what does wookiepedia say?

Right this second? "Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh"

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Bongo Bill posted:

On the other hand, the relatively long time span between the two trilogies introduced a new audience, mainly children, who were approaching them chronologically.
Well sure, if their parents hate them. My nephews saw the original trilogy like 10 times before the prequels. They totally like the prequels, but seem more fixated on the originals. All is as it should be.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
Krayt dragon attacks Mos Eisley

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Kart Barfunkel posted:

I'm wondering if they had to invent a lot of new animals and props and stuff for legal reasons. Curious that there's no banthas or dewbacks who have become pretty much Tattooine staples at this point.
Are you suggesting Lucas sold the rights to Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, and the droids, but held on tight to the bantha rights?

I'll be honest, that would be awesome. And strangely unsurprising.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Detective No. 27 posted:

I always thought that when they called it "The Forest Moon of Endor," that the place they were on was actually just a moon and Endor was a planet below it. A quick look at wikipedia proved me wrong, I guess.
I think Wikipedia is wrong on this one. Wookiepedia says the forest moon of endor is the furthest moon of a gas giant named Endor.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Neo Rasa posted:

With each passing page of EU info in this thread my hatred grows stronger.

Boba Fett was the best man at Dengar's wedding.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Mogomra posted:

That being said, the Luuke poo poo is egregious. I must have totally blocked that out of my memory, and thinking about it now, I have to question my feelings about the books.

:negative:

As has already been intimated, a lot of that series is egregious. I recently came to terms with just how rose colored my glasses were with that series.

Even the stuff I remember fondly, when really considered, is idiotic. He is such a goddamn tactician that he studies a culture's art, and then knows how to defeat them. Awesome! Except, not. At all.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Sith Happens posted:

It's hanging from the ceiling in the Coruscant Smithsonian, and Han has to steal it to go rescue Luke.
And a museum curator yells 'It belongs in a museum!' Over his shoulder, in soft focus, a coiled whip is mounted on a plaque.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Cross-Section posted:

Here's the actual, non-render Stormtrooper helmet:



Gives me far more of an oppressive, THX-1138 vibe than the old one did.

That's the biggest breathe-right strip I have ever seen.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

computer parts posted:

The general perception of Episode I is that it was worth more than a billion dollars.
One of the most anticipated movies ever (honest question, with an impossible to judge metric, could it have been literally the most anticipated movie ever?) making a poo poo ton of money says nothing about its quality.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

computer parts posted:

Episode 2 made $650 million, Episode 3 made $850 million.

That Episode 1 money is probably also counting the 3D re-release.
And my general understanding is that most people agree the movies got progressively better, so those numbers don't surprise me. But again, these are movies that would have had to be catastrophically bad to scare away audiences.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

computer parts posted:

And the person I quoted said that the general perception of the films was that they were bad.

This is obviously not true.
I don't intend to make broad assertions, but for what it's worth, most people I know didn't really enjoy them very much, but kept watching them because, you know, Star Wars.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Personally, I still can't believe there are people who like the podrace. Only thing enjoyable out of it is Greg Proops' obvious excitement about being in a goddamn Star Wars movie.
A hundred times this. Well, not the Greg Proops part.. Nothing about the pod race strikes me as particularly fast or exciting. Speeder bikes weaving between trees is infinitely more exciting than pods in a desert/canyon.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Anakin is ten years old and works in a junkyard. Watto occasionally makes him compete in the deathrace. He's probably never gone to school. He has a bomb implanted in his head.
Counterpoint - He doesn't have to go to school, he gets to hang out in a junk yard with robots all day, and he can threaten bullies with his brain bomb.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Szmitten posted:

The "Other" was actually going to be his sister, but she would be a new character introduced in the sequel trilogy (a fully trained Jedi from an entirely different galaxy). It's kinda why I'm interested in Daisy Ridley's role, I feel like she might be a mutation of this old idea.
Wait, in the original concept, there was another galaxy involved? And that galaxy apparently had at least two Jedi?

That is powerfully strange. We were meant to watch these movies about the last Jedi bringing balance to the force, and then in the galaxy next door there are just Jedi running around doing their own thing?

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

PeterWeller posted:

Yet the beginning of RotJ shows him and a handful of friends taking down the planet's crimelord in an elaborate and successful scheme to rescue Han.
And as we all have learned from the wars on terror and drugs, killing figureheads solves everything. Killing Jabba freed all the slaves.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!
I have heard that in the air force, the captain of the plane accepts medals in honor of the whole crew. Having not served in the air force, I don't know if that's true - If so however, that would a reasonable explanation for Chewie getting apparently skipped over. Even if not true in real life, it doesn't seem like much of a leap in logic. In that case, the rebel alliance did him a great honor in breaking military tradition and allowing him to stand at the ceremony even though he wasn't directly receiving a medal.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

Ash1138 posted:

"Where are you taking this...thing?"

Well nobody said the Empire wasn't racist.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

computer parts posted:

Chewbacca does threaten white society, we're just from the viewpoint of those rebels.

Remember back in Forrest Gump, when the Black Panthers had a white dude with them? It's the same logic, but in reverse. Chewie is an example of an oppressed minority within the Empire (supposedly at least one of the Death Stars were constructed with Wookie slave labor). Whether it's a good idea to trust these humans/white people as opposed to the other oppressive humans is another story, but it's hard to deny that those characteristics are there.

It's probably also important to differentiate between Wookies/other aliens and droids - they represent the field slaves and the house slaves, respectively. In the OT, we never see droids *do* any sort of dirty work, aside from an extra in Darth Vader's Assassin Squad and the torture droid in ANH and in Jabba's Palace (though both of those have a "Samuel L Jackson in Django Unchained" characteristic of absorbing their master's intentions to avoid punishment themselves). Rather, they are "useful tools", (usually) non-lethal work that's appreciated but still "won't have them served here".

By contrast, aliens (and Wookies in particular) seem to be doing all of the dirty work. For some reason they couldn't use droids to construct the Death Star, so they used alien slave labor. Aliens are the ones that are the majority of Darth Vader's hit crew, and they're the main guards of Jabba's palace. It's telling that there's next to no aliens in a command role in the Rebel Alliance, aside from one character in Return of the Jedi.
A) Wookie labor for the Death Star - Is this canon? Otherwise, I wouldn't count it the same as I don't count non-canon sources that show Chewie getting a medal.

B) Vader's hit crew is a droid, an alien, a human, and a human (clone... For some stupid reason)

C) Everyone in Jabba's palace is an alien, so pointing out that the guards are too seems pointless. In fact, the only humans there are a slave and some sweet wall art. Jabba's palace is a worse place to be for humans than it is for aliens.

D) This is leaning into non-canon territory as far as confirmation goes, but most of the rebel capital ships are of Mon Calamari design in the movie - It stands to reason then that they are crewed and commanded by Mon Calamari (confirmed in EU, unconfirmed in movies). Ackbar is an admiral, so while he may be the sole alien showed, he holds an impressive title.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

K. Waste posted:

The characters in Star Wars are explicitly conscious of this, as in the scene where they don the all white uniforms of the Storm Troopers and escort Chewie in chains as their prisoner.
Say what you will of what the movie is saying, but the characters are explicitly conscious of the fact that a 7 foot tall wookie won't fit in a stormtrooper uniform so they need to improvise.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

That's a tactical realism argument. Think about it.
Honest question - What is the idea behind the tactical realism argument? Is it that every single scene in a movie exists for a thematic purpose and thus applying situational logic to it is pointless because the situation was scripted?

If so, I will wholeheartedly admit I don't understand the game we are playing and I forfeit. I don't get why it is more legitimate to say 'the film is clearly saying this' when an equally valid interpretation exists.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

feedmyleg posted:

Porkins? Dax? There's all sorts of fatties in Star Wars, what are you talking about

e: Don't tell me you think this fat gently caress couldn't stand to lose a few pounds



Dude, look at all the excess skin. Max Rebo is in the middle of a huge weight loss, lay off.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Vintersorg posted:

It's loving fantastic that he's going all practical sets. Keep CGI down to a minimum as much as you can and this will be goddamn perfect.

Good CGI is as good, if not better than practical effects. If you meant lovely CGI, then sure, I agree they should focus on not making the movie look lovely.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

If two grown men can't make a pervert happy for a few minutes in order to watch a film about zombies, then maybe we should all just move to Iran!

unlimited shrimp posted:


1. Brightest light source is in the top left but it apparently casts no shadows between it and the jedi in the foreground.
2. One of the columns isn't casting a shadow at all.
3. Yoda apparently isn't casting a shadow.
4. The shadow cast by the jedi makes no sense.
That light is very far away. Closer light sources would more prominently cause shadows.
If you mean the column next to them, it's casting a shadow parallel to the walkway. Those columns appear to be lit by the (skylight?), and the angles seem to make sense
Yeah, that seems hard to argue
Honestly can't tell. Shadows don't always look the way we expect. They don't look particularly strange to me, but I am willing to accept it may be off.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Teek posted:

Y-Wings will now be shaped like letter Ks.

EU beat you to it

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Milky Moor posted:

There was a horse pilot in Wraith Squadron.

I think you mean the relationship between Gavin and Asyr though. To be fair to Gavin, Stackpole didn't write the bothans as goat people.

I remember a conversation in one of those books that went into, well maybe not graphic, but unnecessary detail about interspecies loving. It was where my honeymoon period with the EU lost some of it's glimmer.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Ave Azaria posted:

I just think it's kind of corny. A step away from the camera flipping around to the camera man's face as he mouths "woooahhh!!"

loving hell, I actually liked the zooms in BSG and now this is forever going to taint them.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Davros1 posted:

I'm irrationally pissed off at the sight of the droid. Don't know why, but I loving hate it.

I loved the teaser, but the opening shot seemed really off to me, like almost goofy, and then I saw that droid and I was like 'oh, another joke trailer...'

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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JerryLee posted:

On the subject of legacy tech/the rate of innovation, something I've been thinking is that while I'm fine with the new X-Wing design on its own, I hope they intend for it to be a later model/iteration and not the way all X-Wings have been forever. Call it a :spergin: if you like, but I'd be pissed if they retconned the original X-Wing out of existence altogether.

Maybe this has already been addressed one way or the other; I don't know.
I am more upset about the retconned r2d2. I can't believe they turned him into a saucer balanced on a soccer ball. Here's to hoping they just explain it as his old body getting destroyed and his software being downloaded into the new body or something. I will leave the details to the professionals.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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unlimited shrimp posted:

People act like spoilers are the most taboo thing ever.

There was a study that found people enjoy stuff more when it has been spoiled for them, because they are more focused on what's happening vs trying to guess what will.

I can't convince myself it's the way to go though.

Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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computer parts posted:

That's why people who turn evil are either kind of lovely at the start or are just secretly a lovely person but keeping up a public facade (like Hans in Frozen).
Haha, I think you just spoiled Frozen for me as I was watching it.

Now to test whether it increases my enjoyment.

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Slugworth
Feb 18, 2001

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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

I like the one where Alec Guinness made that child cry.

George Takai made my friend cry at a convention when he was younger. A few years later there was an episode of Freakazoid featuring George Takai and a suspiciously similar situation.

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