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Thoren posted:So let's say I wanted to live in a few sets of t-shirts for a long time, rotating them every few days. Would synthetic be a better choice than wool? Point me to some products here, people. wool, synthetic's main advantage is dry time while wool undoubtedly can go much longer without smelling like rear end.
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Thoren posted:So let's say I wanted to live in a few sets of t-shirts for a long time, rotating them every few days. Would synthetic be a better choice than wool? Point me to some products here, people. This is wool's ideal usage scenario, and a nightmare for synthetic. Icebreaker makes really nice tees.
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Apr 25, 2015 13:32
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Not really hiking related question: I generally travel with my pack as my only luggage, don't even own a proper suitcase. Does anyone have experience packing a suit in a backpack? Any tips?
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Apr 25, 2015 16:58
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alnilam posted:Does anyone have experience packing a suit in a backpack? Any tips? Yes. Don't.
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Apr 25, 2015 17:28
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If you don't want to get it dry cleaned again where you are going, I can't see how you would possibly do that. Even a suitcase is a pain to keep things unwrinkled. I would pick up a garment bag. Something like this - http://www.amazon.com/WallyBags-Inch-Garment-Black-Size/dp/B000AB286S/ref=sr_1_5?s=apparel&ie=UTF8&qid=1429979349&sr=1-5
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Apr 25, 2015 17:29
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alnilam posted:Not really hiking related question: You can try rolling it. http://lifehacker.com/pack-your-suit-inside-out-and-rolled-to-prevent-wrinkle-1642035982
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Apr 25, 2015 17:33
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Haas anyone been up to Estes PArk or Wild Basin in the last week, we decided to head up there for some hiking and a recent trail report would be nice to have, wondering if we need to rent snowshoes or micro spikes. .
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Apr 25, 2015 18:38
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alnilam posted:Not really hiking related question: The only thing I've found that works is to wear the suit on the airplane. With a bonus side effect of being treated better by airport staff and security.
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Apr 25, 2015 19:43
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Speleothing posted:The only thing I've found that works is to wear the suit on the airplane. With a bonus side effect of being treated better by airport staff and security.
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Apr 26, 2015 01:29
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So I went out today for a stroll in the wonderful world of the Idaho backcountry. Started out gorgeous, if a little chilly.   Some snow from last night gave these rocks a nice dusting. It looked vibrant through my sunglasses, a little less to the actual eye.  The trail was hard to follow at times. Eventually it completely vanished and that's about when I headed back.   This didn't start until I was well on my way back. Didn't last too long either. I was actually hoping it would snow while I was out, it's a good feeling to just be outside in the snow. But gently caress, it got real cold. 
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Apr 26, 2015 01:56
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Blinkman987 posted:I've read that something people do when having a mental break due to cold/hypothermia is that they get naked. So, if they were in soaked clothing under certain weather conditions, that's actually correct and better than being in your soaked clothes? In mild temperatures with heavy rain I will sometimes put as many of my clothes as socially acceptable into my waterproof pack. 
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Apr 26, 2015 06:00
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I need a packable waterproof shell, and the Marmot Precip is on sale for fifty bucks most of the time. Anyone have an opinion on it's suitability to keep my upper half dry? Is there a superior alternative that isn't shockingly more expensive?
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Apr 26, 2015 12:42
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Loucks posted:I need a packable waterproof shell, and the Marmot Precip is on sale for fifty bucks most of the time. Anyone have an opinion on it's suitability to keep my upper half dry? Is there a superior alternative that isn't shockingly more expensive? Most of the shells in that $90 to 125 price range are pretty similar, and the ones that usually retail for 50 are a lot worse. If it's one of the new precips, definitely get it. If it's the older fabric from three years ago, I'd still go for it.
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Apr 26, 2015 13:38
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Serious question, why not just put tent, sleeping bag, and clothes in drybags? I use the same things for kayaking as backpacking. Don't care at all if the pack gets wet.
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Apr 26, 2015 14:48
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I put my sleeping bag in a dry bag for compression, and put everything that's dry inside my pack in a trash compactor bag. The pack itself gets soaked but all my clothes stay dry. It works well and you don't have to bother with individual dry bags.
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Apr 26, 2015 15:12
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I put spare clothes and sleeping bag in dry bags. I don't bother with the tent, if it rains here it tends to drizzle for days so the tent's going to get and stay wet.
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Apr 26, 2015 18:31
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My pack opens from the top (like a traditional pack) or a full length u zipper in the front like luggage which makes it super easy to pack and organize. Compactor bags are great but would force me to only access contents from the top which gets annoying on a fully loaded trip. Instead I have a pack cover which does a great job keeping water out. I like organization so I keep clothes and sleeping bag in dry bags. I look at both as critical items to keep dry. With a wet sleeping bag or clothes your trip could turn sour/dangerous quickly if the temps drop and you can't dry them. Just remember that not all "dry bags" actually keep water out. The cheapest are okay for organization of non essentials but I prefer the sea to summit for my sleeping bag where the build quality is higher and much more water repellant.
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Apr 26, 2015 20:45
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Speaking of drybags, what brand and/or type gets a goon recommendation? Preferably some sort of compression sack that is water proof, not just water repellent. I currently use a sturdy trash bag to keep my compressed sleeping bag in, but the trash bag always has some air trapped inside so it's bulkier than it could be. For spare clothes I use various sizes of double-zipper Ikea zip loc bags, and they're a bitch to get all the air out but once you do they're kinda nice. Looking for a better solution.
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Apr 26, 2015 22:28
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I, too, have heard really good things about sea-to-summit dry bags. I haven't used them myself though.
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Apr 26, 2015 23:42
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Sea to Summit is really good
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Apr 27, 2015 00:06
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That's what I use for my sleeping bag. No problems yet.
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Apr 27, 2015 00:23
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Dry bags are heavy! Really though unless you're in a really wet area they're not really needed. Don't need them for the occasional storm Sea to summit event bags are nice though
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Apr 27, 2015 00:25
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I live in Belgium, so I'm always in a really wet area. Ok that's a bit of a hyperbole, and I guess the UK is worse, but two to three days of practically unending rain is very common here between October and March. I checked out the StS Event bag product page, looks ok but the waterproofness has me worried. They're marketed as 'the first valveless compressing drybag', so that would suggest that there are actual drybags (not just made from 10.000mm water column fabric, but from the thick rubbery material used for drybags) that can be compressed, with a watertight valve to let the air out. But I can't seem to find any on the internet.
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Apr 27, 2015 10:17
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theroachman posted:I live in Belgium, so I'm always in a really wet area. Ok that's a bit of a hyperbole, and I guess the UK is worse, but two to three days of practically unending rain is very common here between October and March. E-Vent bags permit air to be forced out of the bags micro pores with a little effort in your part, but does a terribly poo poo job of letting air back in, and for all practical backpacking purposes prevents any water from getting in. The bags are intuitive to use once your holding it. No different than any stuff out there already, just really well made. Grabbing a trash compactor bag and a cheap sil nylon pack cover is cheaper and more flexible and when done right just as effective, if not more so, than a bunch of dry bags.
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Yesterday I did something few ever attempt: I hiked in Rhode Island. Some pictures from Tillinghast Pond Management Area:  Coney Cascade.  Tillinghast Pond.  Maple blossoms.  The pond again.  A fun day overall, especially at the pond itself, which was gorgeous in a low-key, low-elevation way. But the woods away from the pond, except for the occasional hemlock grove and pine plantation, were the same kind of scruffy oak junk you find everywhere on Long Island, so the back reaches of the loop were pretty boring for me.
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Apr 27, 2015 16:09
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Levitate posted:Dry bags are heavy! Really though unless you're in a really wet area they're not really needed. I assume you're referring to the really thick/heavy duty polyurethane bags typically seen in marine scenarios ... they make much lighter and thinner dry bags than those which don't weigh much more than a typical nylon stuff sack while being much more waterproof. Sea line and Sea to summit are two popular companies make dry bags in various sizes/weights.
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I was joking a bit. Real 100% dry bags are markedly heavier but things like this: http://www.seatosummit.com/product/?item=Ultra-Sil%26reg%3B+Dry+Sack&o1=0&o2=0&o3=281-22 Are light and as waterproof as you need unless you're going to be submerging your stuff or be spending literally days in the rain on end without sufficient waterproof pack cover or liner. I actually used one of those to hold water long enough to wash up in camp I also have some of these which are more waterproof but really the benefit is being more compressible, but they weigh more (then again we're talking a few oz of weight probably...I also think the ones I have are a lot smaller than 6L) http://www.seatosummit.com/product/?item=eVent+Compression+Dry+Sack&o1=0&o2=0&o3=291-12
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Does anyone happen to have any recommendations for lightweight fishing gear for backpacking? I am not an experienced fishermen by any means, but I have often looked at bodies of water while camping and been like "you know, fishing right now would be pretty cool". Any good guides to get someone started?
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Optimus Subprime posted:Does anyone happen to have any recommendations for lightweight fishing gear for backpacking? I am not an experienced fishermen by any means, but I have often looked at bodies of water while camping and been like "you know, fishing right now would be pretty cool". Any good guides to get someone started? This may sound like a joke, but is the pocket fisherman a legitimate consideration? http://www.amazon.com/Pocket-Fisherman-Spin-Casting-Outfit/dp/B000HDKOHY
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Apr 27, 2015 17:22
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Optimus Subprime posted:Does anyone happen to have any recommendations for lightweight fishing gear for backpacking? I am not an experienced fishermen by any means, but I have often looked at bodies of water while camping and been like "you know, fishing right now would be pretty cool". Any good guides to get someone started? Fly or spin casting?
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Optimus Subprime posted:Does anyone happen to have any recommendations for lightweight fishing gear for backpacking? I am not an experienced fishermen by any means, but I have often looked at bodies of water while camping and been like "you know, fishing right now would be pretty cool". Any good guides to get someone started? My housemate and hiking buddy takes his fishing stuff backpacking all the time. You really don't need a special setup for backpacking, you just need to narrow it down to the essentials and not bring a huge-rear end tacklebox. My friend has a pretty light pole that comes apart in the middle and he sticks that along the side of his pack. He has a little 6-compartment box that's maybe 4x6x2 inches where he keeps hooks and some lures, brings little baggies with fake bait or embalmed bait, and if he wants live bait he digs for worms or scours for crayfish. The whole setup can't weigh more than a pound and it doesn't take up much room. He uses this same setup whether he's fishing near our house or fishing in the backcountry, so it's quite sufficient. Other than that all you need is a pocket knife (which you probably bring anyway) and knowledge of how to gut and clean a fish. Oh, and a fishing license.
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Is there any kind of advantage to those pump type water filters? I'm talking about the Katydyn and their ilk. They seemed like a more difficult to use solution compared to Sawyers and variations on that type of filter. Is there something basic and simple I'm missing? I'm a Sawyer / Sawyer mini backup man myself, and just generally use the cleanest fresh water sources I can find and filter them even if they're straight spring water, or hand pump well water. I've been thinking of adding a steripen UV thingy to my kit for when the water is extra sketchy. Currently I've got ClO2 (aquamira) tabs to fill that role but it seems steripen would be great for taking out any kind of viruses and other stuff if what they claim in their literature is true. Sounds retarded but I've got a pretty suppressed immune system, long term, so I sort of need to be obsessive about it. Anyone have words to say on the effectiveness of UV treatment versus Chlorine Dioxide (Aquamira) for maximum water sterilization? The water will already have been Sawyer filtered.. Not an every refill thing, only for use if I gotta turn super sketch water into drinking water.
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I will never hike without a pump filter because of how many times I've been stuck with only a weak trickle or a crappy little puddle in a rock as my only water source. Having a pump saved my rear end in those cases. Even when I use iodine I still bring a pump filter for situations like that.
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Apr 27, 2015 17:55
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I hate my steripen. It's a novelty item at this point.
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Yeah I don't like the idea of the steripen. I completely understand the technology but I don't like the fact you have to rely on batteries/electronics for it to operate. The other thing is that it doesn't help you filter out particles. I would rather just carry a real filter (pump or gravity).
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alnilam posted:My housemate and hiking buddy takes his fishing stuff backpacking all the time. You really don't need a special setup for backpacking, you just need to narrow it down to the essentials and not bring a huge-rear end tacklebox. I had the same question as this guy. This is good advice. I checked the fishing regs for the Smokeys and all you can use is something with a single hook, no treble hooks. That eliminates a lot of the bulk right there since most of my lures are treble. Other than my pole, everything else I would bring would fit in an envelope. I've got a great lightweight spincaster, but it doesn't come apart in the middle.
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I think UV basically kills everything but you're at the mercy of an electronic gadget that could stop working or run out of batteries etc, and I think the water needs to be clear. Aquamira also kills pretty much everything but you have to leave it for like 4 hours for tough things like crypto and also works better with clear water. The tabs are are classified as a purifier, which the drops are not (though McNett claims they work just as well, they just can't put on the packaging that they work as a water purifier) https://mcnett.zendesk.com/entries/448256-Do-Aquamira-Water-Treatment-Drops-Remove-Viruses-and-Bacteria- Both should kill viri As alnilam hinted at pump filters can be handy in situations where it's hard to gather water from a pool or fill up a bottle before treating. Really depends on where you're at I think. I've just used Aquamira in the Grand Canyon and was able to fill bottle from the small streams and stuff there, but if you know collecting water is a hassle then a pump system might help. I don't think they work better in terms of what they filter.
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^^^^^^^^^ Edit, thanks. That makes sense. Now I see what he meant. alnilam posted:I will never hike without a pump filter because of how many times I've been stuck with only a weak trickle or a crappy little puddle in a rock as my only water source. Having a pump saved my rear end in those cases. Even when I use iodine I still bring a pump filter for situations like that. Where do you hike? This season I'm sticking to the east and the southern half of the AT.. Also I guess I'm not understanding the advantage of a pump filter in those instances. I'm sure it's obvious and I'm just missing it but care to enlighten me? Also thanks for the steripen input. Duly noted, will stick with chemistry as my co treatment. OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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OMFG PTSD LOL PBUH posted:Where do you hike? This season I'm sticking to the east and the southern half of the AT.. Also I guess I'm not understanding the advantage of a pump filter in those instances. I'm sure it's obvious and I'm just missing it but care to enlighten me? When I was on the AT in north Carolina, half our water sources were murky mud puddles full of debris. We couldn't get much more than the lip of the bottle full of water and my steripen was useless for days. Only pumps could get at the water source.
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I've been using the cut off bottom 3" of a plastic coke bottle to scoop in situations where you couldn't dunk your whole bottle into the stream. Kind of annoying but it works.
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