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Japanese Brie and Camembert are okay (though the latter is usually not really actual Camembert). In Tokyo, I could always find cheddar, mimolette, and some other hard cow cheese...can't remember now. Fresh mozzarella, too. For anything more unusual, I'd have to go to a foreign grocery store. EDIT: Gorgonzola! Gorgonzola's pretty easy to find. Fleta Mcgurn has a new favorite as of 03:59 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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Lactose intolerance is way more common in Asia than it is in North America and Europe, so it seems pretty normal for a lot of Asians to look at cheese and be like "ugh why would you want to eat that." Which I think is part of the reason Asian implementations of the pizza concept come off so weirdly to Westerners.
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Nov 27, 2014 03:17
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Chantilly Say posted:Lactose intolerance is way more common in Asia than it is in North America and Europe, so it seems pretty normal for a lot of Asians to look at cheese and be like "ugh why would you want to eat that." Which I think is part of the reason Asian implementations of the pizza concept come off so weirdly to Westerners. This may have been true before at some point, but isn't true at all now. Dairy products are really common in Japan. Ice cream is real popular, and pretty much all pizza has cheese just like it does in the west. The sauce and toppings and stuff are different, but the cheese is like the one thing that's actually about the same. Japanese people are just not super interested in cheese beyond 1 or 2 different kinds because a lot of them are "too strong" for the Japanese palate that favors very mild flavors. Japanese people also really prefer their foods to be soft, and so that tosses out a lot of harder cheeses too. You can find piles of cheese at Japanese supermarkets, but the Japanese cheese industry is all about brie, camembert, mozzarella, and non-specific Japanese mozzarella that is nearly tasteless. Recently you can find small packages of red cheddar for way too much money, and it's not so terrible. They like cheese enough, but don't really seem to feel the need to get into all the different kinds. Import food stores, which you can find in nearly any medium-sized city have better selections, but normal Japanese supermarkets aren't wastelands without dairy products.
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Nov 27, 2014 03:43
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Lactose is water-soluble, and it mostly gets washed out of cheese. If anything, Asians ought to prefer cheese to other forms of dairy. And despite whatever lactose-intolerance they have, dairy is a government supported food in Japan. So I dunno, somehow it doesn't seem to bother them. I've read about Chinese people specifically not liking blue cheese, not because they don't like pungent things, but because it's the 'wrong' sort of pungency. There's also a bit of nationalism, as cheese is thought of as a Mongolian food.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:natto. Fermented soy beans with a slimy texture? mmmm sounds delicious 
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Nov 27, 2014 05:22
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Farecoal posted:Fermented soy beans with a slimy texture? mmmm sounds delicious They're not as bad as they look or smell. I once ate natto made with charcoal (as it was described to me) at shojin ryori. It was quite salty and a bit chewy and I couldn't figure out what it tasted like...something from my childhood...boy, that's weird, I didn't eat Japanese food for the first time until I was a teenager, what in my childhood-- OH! Boogers. Tasted exactly like boogers.
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Data Graham posted:According to a teacher in high school, the Japanese regard cheese as a kind of spoiled milk and don't understand why we consider it food. I'm not Japanese, and that's exactly what I think of cheese.
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Chantilly Say posted:Lactose intolerance is way more common in Asia than it is in North America and Europe, so it seems pretty normal for a lot of Asians to look at cheese and be like "ugh why would you want to eat that." Which I think is part of the reason Asian implementations of the pizza concept come off so weirdly to Westerners. As someone pointed out earlier, Cheese is very low in lactose, and is generally the least lactose-rich dairy product you can get: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactose_content_of_foods
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Zanael posted:Just saw this excellent Sweet Sundae Ramen recipe, it looks ultra tasty : No lie, my first thought was to think it was a Korean Sundae Ramen dish, which I've had and found to be great. Then I enlarged that image and a part of me died inside. Otana posted:I never found real cheese in Japan, it was plastic slices, cream cheese in triangles or pre-shredded for pizza (and that was in Hokkaido, the home of Japan's dairy industry). It made me sad. Might be an Asian thing. Koreans also love their cream cheese for some reason. Almost any bread in a Korea bakery with the word "cheese" in its name actually has cream cheese. I mean, there are some rare cases where I like cream cheese, but for the most part I could do without it.
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Dilb posted:Lactose is water-soluble, and it mostly gets washed out of cheese. If anything, Asians ought to prefer cheese to other forms of dairy. And despite whatever lactose-intolerance they have, dairy is a government supported food in Japan. So I dunno, somehow it doesn't seem to bother them. In recent years Chinese people have been going crazy for imported US/European cheeses, to the point where China is trying to establish a Chinese dairy industry. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/02/say-cheese-china-s-new-obsession.html quote:Cheese hasn’t historically been a part of Chinese cuisine, and as China has opened up cheese has taken longer to catch on than other Western foods because the taste of cheese is so exotic to the Chinese palate. At Enoterra, a fancy Shanghai wine and cheese place, in the past the customers would order the cheese platter just to order it, maybe take a bite or two, now are finishing the entire plate, save for blue cheese or other "strong" cheeses. pentyne has a new favorite as of 07:36 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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ErIog posted:You can find piles of cheese at Japanese supermarkets, but the Japanese cheese industry is all about brie, camembert, mozzarella, and non-specific Japanese mozzarella that is nearly tasteless. Recently you can find small packages of red cheddar for way too much money, and it's not so terrible. They like cheese enough, but don't really seem to feel the need to get into all the different kinds. I'm sure if you went searching you could find most foods somewhere in a big city, there just wasn't the variety of cheese I'm used to (this was going on ten years ago though, so maybe it's changed a bit). I'm basically a big spoiled cheese loving baby. And now because I started a huge loving derail about dairy products, here's something on topic.  That is shirako. I was served it without being told what it was, and only found out years later that not only was it fish jizz, but it was fugu jizz. A double dose of culture right there. Otana has a new favorite as of 09:31 on Nov 27, 2014 |
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Nov 27, 2014 09:28
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I love that jizz. No seriously that is legit my favorite part of fish egg soup. I don't care for the eggs (well, I actually like them too), just gimme the sweet sweet fish jizz (NOT ACTUALLY SWEET).
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Nov 27, 2014 10:33
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:No lie, my first thought was to think it was a Korean Sundae Ramen dish, which I've had and found to be great. Oh thank god, I thought we were about to get a legit ice cream- sundae-esque ramen like that horror from reddit. Ughhhh.
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Away all Goats posted:As someone pointed out earlier, Cheese is very low in lactose, and is generally the least lactose-rich dairy product you can get: Okay, then I was wrong.
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I love that jizz.  Thanks for reminding me to cook this for breakfast one of these days! Soft herring roe, AKA Milt, AKA Big Globs of Canned Fish Spunk. Fried, with anchovy butter, on toast. A squeeze of lemon and you're golden.
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Nov 27, 2014 15:48
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Milt is fish genitals filled with fish spunk. Urgh. Then again we do eat eggs. But eggs are absolutely custom made to be tasty since they have all the fat and protein while sperm is just...genetic matter. Im getting nauseous.
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I was just so... underwhelmed by it. It was pasty and tasteless and I kinda thought it was a brain at the time. I really hope they only put it on our menu to gently caress with the foreigners, because that is hilarious and I would totally do the same. Otana has a new favorite as of 09:28 on Nov 28, 2014 |
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Like you ain't ever had a Texas Marshmallow Toasty before.
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Why would anyone watch this? Why does this exist?
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bikesonyx posted:Why would anyone watch this? This is a sex thing isn't it? I bet this is a sex thing...... why is this a sex thing?
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Solice Kirsk posted:This is a sex thing isn't it? I bet this is a sex thing...... why is this a sex thing? There was a jelly? All I saw was boobs....
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And the chips have little pizzas on them.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Jesus What the hell, I'd try it. I'm sure I would regret it but let's roll the loving dice. 
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theironjef posted:Let's start the watch for when they finally figure out how to cram doritos onto KFC stuff and complete the PepsiCo trinity. Potato Chip Chicken is absolutely a thing, so it's just a matter of substitution.
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To be fair, I miss Pizza Hut flavored Doritos.
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Solice Kirsk posted:This is a sex thing isn't it? I bet this is a sex thing...... why is this a sex thing? however the 18th century aristos were probably amused by it as a sex thing and at least some of the youtube views have probably been jerking off to it so intent means nothing; everything on the internet is a sex thing eventually
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theironjef posted:Let's start the watch for when they finally figure out how to cram doritos onto KFC stuff and complete the PepsiCo trinity. Now I wonder if KFC makes sweet cola chicken.
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InediblePenguin posted:this is the one time something like that on the internet was NOT uploaded as a sex thing - it was uploaded by noted food historian Ivan Day just to show what historical jellies looked like in practice and how their wobbling was a novelty for the 18th century aristos who popularized them Rich European upper class people were obsessed with jelly/gelatin based foods from the 1700s up until the late 1800s. Most of it tasted like complete poo poo and was literally expensive food stuck in a mold to look impressive.
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pentyne posted:Rich European upper class people were obsessed with jelly/gelatin based foods from the 1700s up until the late 1800s. Most of it tasted like complete poo poo and was literally expensive food stuck in a mold to look impressive. Because it was expensive as poo poo to hold something at that low of a temperature for the gelatin to become semi-solid. It was a status thing. Then it became popular in the 50-60s because everyone wanted to show off their new fridge.
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Bring back aspics, I like it when my dinner is suspended in bone gel and wiggles a lot.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Bring back aspics, I like it when my dinner is suspended in bone gel and wiggles a lot. You're in luck, my friend.. First project: larks' tongues
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Agenda: Make super tasty meat and spinach and feta pie! EXPECTATION  REALITY??  CLOSE AND NUKE IT!!  oh well in the end it turned out alright I just can't photo  pr0n
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That 's a pretty tasty-looking Spanakopita. I have a similar problem, nothing I cook comes out like in the magazines or the web. Care to share the recipe?
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Man, this probably tastes fine, like a puffed rice chocolate bar... but it just looks gross.
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I am sorry on behalf of my people.
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