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oddeye posted:As much as it sucks that Natura had the recall, please keep in mind that they are an incredibly proactive company when it comes to issues like this. My reps that dealt with this recall cited that one bag of cat food and one bag of cat treats were found to have traces of salmonella, which is of course, not good. However, Natura ended up recalling 3 months worth of product that was made in that facility. So is it safe to go back to Natura brand products? I was feeding California Naturals and had a bag that was recalled, so I stopped feeding it. I was really upset because we'd only gotten it a few days before the recall.
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oddeye posted:Yes, I'm not sure what the protocol in the states is but in Canada a couple things would have happened. If they're really that diligent about their recalls, then I'd be happy to buy their dog foods again! Thanks for the info.
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Jun 5, 2013 20:02
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Kiri koli posted:Well that sucks considering he's listed as a vet behaviorist at tufts and that's the closest one to us. We are reconsidering seeing a vet behaviorist since she now has confirmed medical issues that may be related to her behavior. I would say its just more a case of a subpar publication from (possibly) an otherwise decent researcher. I have no idea how he's regarded, but most labs have one or two meh papers, even if they are otherwise great (and I would say that's especially prevalent in biological fields because of how much other poo poo can influence their results).
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Jun 7, 2013 19:04
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Martello posted:I've read/heard a few different things about puppy food. Is it really necessary or can I feed my 9 week-old Cane Corso adult food? I have Taste of the Wild High Prairie for our adult dog, will that give little baby Scuda everything she needs? You need food that is either specifically described as "for all life stages" or for puppies. A maintainence diet is not formulated for puppies and can be lacking in nutrients that they need.
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Jun 12, 2013 16:56
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Really bummed about Natura- it was working well for Bailey. Guess its back to blue buffalo and massive dumps.
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Jun 18, 2013 22:58
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Fluffy Bunnies posted:So Balen had some protein in his urine (did a billion tests and he's healthy as a horse) and after talking to the vet, we're heavily considering swapping him to a lower protein diet, probably with grains. And probably Amy with him since she's getting to be "old" for a dane too. I eyeballed wellness's senior but why the hell does it have garlic in it? I'm also eyeballing earthborn's adult formula and a few others. What would you guys do? Everyone's currently on Taste of the Wild, lamb formula/sierra mountain. How do you feel about Blue Buffalo or Wellness? Both those brands have lower proteins content and I think both offer senior and lamb formulations. Bailey has done well on both, but he's young yet.
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Jun 25, 2013 23:54
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Instant Jellyfish posted:Garlic and DE are still super popular among new age-y farmers who refuse to do fecals but think worming with chemicals is evil somehow. That and apple cider vinegar. Apple cider vinegar (not the processed kind!) does everything from get rid of lice to increase the number of female animals you have born apparently. Yeah garlic is hippie magic and I have had people tell me to use that instead of frontline.
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Jun 26, 2013 03:15
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Dogdoo 8 posted:Small wonder he's having that problem! Did you know the more of an ingredient you use, the less effective it is? The best thing you can do is to grate up that fresh garlic and then dilute it in water until you need to use ppm to measure it. You see, the water holds a memory of the substances it has in it, and the less there is, the harder the water has to remember. On top of that, garlic in that quantity is an offlabel use, all you're going to do is prevent rabid bats from attacking. I've got Beartato down to a 5 ppm garlic, 2ppm chamomile solution and I have not seen one vampire since the first few days I had him. I was about to have an aneurysm and then I realized you were joking.
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Jun 26, 2013 12:27
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Dr. Chaco posted:The more over-the-counter weird ingredient diets a dog eats before a vet gets involved in the diet trial process, the harder their job gets because their choice of proteins to try gets even more limited. This is because OTC diets are rarely truly limited ingredient, and without a veterinarian's input the diet trial is likely to be done incorrectly (not fed long enough, or not fed exclusively). So, if a dog is still itchy on an OTC venison diet (or the owner tried that 3 months ago and says venison didn't work), how do I know if it didn't work because the dog is really not food-allergic, or if it's because of any of those other factors? IANAV, but last year in the fall Bailey got really itchy out of the blue and wouldn't stop. I gave him benedryl (on the vet's advice) to see if it would clear up on its own and when it didn't I spent days before the vet's appointment  ing over the idead that his chicken based food was to blame and how nervous I was that I would have to do elimination diets etc.The vet looked at me like I was a retard, told me it was most likely to be seasonal, gave him some prednisone and sent us on our way- he made it clear too that he might continue to develop more severe allergies or seasonal allergies and that would be a sort of worst case but he basically was like "you are being weird for worrying:. After like two days he was 100% better, after I was nearly in tears over the idea of expensive allergy testing and elimination diets.
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Jul 20, 2013 19:13
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nwin posted:This seems like pretty good advice and we've been following it. Truth is, out dogs basically are our kids so we tend to spoil them quite a bit. The one boston with the chix allergies is still taking his time to eat, but we set a timer for ten minutes once we put the bowl down and once that times up, we pick all the food up. Haven't had a real issue yet. He doesn't eat the second we put down the bowls like the other dogs but a few minutes in he will start eating. Yesterday he walked away from the bowl with a few minutes left and food still in the bowl, so we had to pick the bowl up last night. Have you tried skim milk based cheese to wrap the pills?
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Sep 18, 2013 15:16
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nwin posted:No, something like Kraft singles? Or like any cheap store brand cheese (that you can get pre-packed and sliced). You can usually warm that with your fingers and kind of hide a pill in it. If you can get stinky cheese (like maybe a stronger cheddar or swiss) that might also help hide the smell of the pill. Or something like liverwurst or pate (which would be much more expensive. If you have to pill the dog, get creative!
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Sep 18, 2013 16:05
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Mr. Belding posted:Eh, I'm was planning on easing into a raw food type of diet instead of doggie TV dinners. Maybe this thread just isn't for me. I'll look for a place where people are talking about that kind of stuff I guess. HelloSailorSign is a vet (iircc) and knows his poo poo. We're not being diffcult in trying to make sure you don't gently caress up a puppies' nutrition. A cooked egg is not "raw food" and generaly speaking if you want to get raw food, you'll end up buying something like Stella and Chewy's where...wait for it...someone has done nutrient analysis and testing to make sure it is appropriate. Feed your dog whatever you want I guess, but don't piss and moan at people who are giving you medically sound advice about balanced food (how funny, right?) that is appropriate for a puppy!
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Oct 3, 2013 19:20
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Mr. Belding posted:So far so good, but it can't last. Are you stupid or just dense? No one is telling you to feed Ol' Roy. We're asking you to, if you chose to feed raw, consider buying a brand that has been AAFCO checked. There are a few, quality raw brands out there that do this, and they contain everything your dog needs to be healthy and happy. Additionally, if you source your raw meat (if you decide you can do it yourself) from a grocery store, you are risking some serious food poisoning issues. You can't just chuck raw veggies, some eggs, and meat in a bowl and say "yep that there sure is a good dog food". No one is saying that we should all just eat pre-packaged food. Dogs are omnivores and scavengers- they'll eat meat, plants, and so on, and while it seems like this means they can just live on anything, its not that simple. If we want to go back to people, it'd be like eating chicken and green beans at every meal. How fast does that get bad for you in terms of the fact that its not nutritionally complete?
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ButWhatIf posted:You can, but it requires that the recipe is one given to you by an actual nutritionist who knows what they're doing, but that kind of costs money for a consultation and research that the person has legit credentials and not just "hey I found this recipe on the internet." I know plenty of people who make their dogs' food, but only after spending several hours under the guidance of a nutritionist. Basically more effort is involved than just "I put a fud in boul," though, like you said. Well yes, I agree with you on that, I meant more like a lay person doing so with no outside guidance is more likely than not to make some mistakes.  As far as food poisoning, I meant more that there was a risk for the dog than the person, as I've heard from a few people that they've had their dogs get sick off of grocery store sourced raw meats before. But yeah, absolutely, as far as people go its all about clean prep surfaces and good food hygiene practices. I'm not ragging on FEEDING RAW IS WRONG its just that there are a lot of ways that it can go wrong or be hosed up. That's the beauty of half decent kibble for most dog owner- its hard to gently caress up.
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Superconsndar posted:Post pics of him showing his current body condItion. Seconding this- some vets are so used to giant fat rear end dogs, they can't tell when a dog is healthy/ in shape.
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Feb 12, 2014 14:59
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jacido posted:Got the SlimCat ball thing! Gimli this morning was pretty much "what the gently caress is this thing and give me my food now". If you look at the bag you showed its labeled "satiety" or something to that effect- its basically designed to make the cat feel full so they dont piss and moan at you for hours about how they are going to starve to death while being less heavy/fatty/ whatever. Vets aren't making poo poo loads of money off of selling you cat food.
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Dr. Chaco posted:Or maybe bacterial contamination is something that happens once in awhile when you make products out of meat? If you avoided every manufacturer, factory, or brand that ever had a recall you would have very little to feed your pets, and not much to eat yourself. No, but you see a large corporation now owns those lines and we all know that that is bad  .I fed California Naturals for a while right before they had issues last year, and then switched to AvoDerm because it was the same price and wasn't having problems. I'd go back to Naturals no problem- my dog tolerated it well, it was inexpensive and still high quality.
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Apr 29, 2014 18:04
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Kibner posted:I have a friend whose wife works with a vet that had "not very nice things" to say about Blue Buffalo. Is there any actual harmful information coming out about BB dog food? Honestly not all dogs are going to do good on the same foods, and some vets are really skeptical of non big brand foods because they either aren't familiar with them or think they're gimmicky. I've had my dog on Blue Buffalo, AvoDerm, Wellness, etc. Almost every one of those the vet has been like "oh that's a good choice" and doesn't care so long as my dog isn't a fat, greasy sausage beast. My mom's vet once got mad that we weren't feeding Iams and were feeding Solid Gold instead. If you like it, your dog likes it, and he's doing fine on it, its probably fine to feed it.
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May 12, 2014 16:25
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gorocket! posted:Oh holy poo poo what Raw diets just tend to attract people like flies to poo poo. Just read up on it, see if its AAFCO certified, and if it passes the bullshit-o-meter.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:23
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Tamarillo posted:Right, so I just received the complete list of food I need to buy to feed this puppy, according to the breeder: ground mince, pet milk, honey, baby rice, plain rice, mild cheese, cottage cheese, cheerios, chicken, and both Beneful and Pedigree biscuits. She sounds like a real brain surgeon. Why feed all that poo poo?
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feld posted:Just wanted to note that I've been feeding my dogs raw for the last year. They had not been to the vet in 11 months. When my vet asked for an update about their diet he was y vet was confused and concerned about feeding raw and surprised at the results: I'm looking forward to your peer reviewed paper in a respectable journal.
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bye for now and keep posting cute dog and cat pictures
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AsYouWish posted:the other day i gave my pit bulls bones and some guts from the goat i slaughtered and they pooped half bone, half kibble turds This is more intelligible and about as scientific as the earlier turd post. I'm going to photograph my dog making GBS threads too, and we can be poo poo photo buds.
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