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Guy A. Person posted:I dunno, the Jonas stuff is also filtered directly through Rusty's POV. I would have agreed entirely before season 7, except that the way Team Venture talked about Jonas was drastically different and more nuanced than they are all presented getting along with Jonas in previous flashbacks. I think it's because team venture are all basically selfish shitbags as well, and they may not know about everything he did. Like I don't remember how many of them knew he trapped those kids in the tunnels under the compound. I agree he's a narcissist concerned with how he appears to others, so he'd want them to think he was great and modify his behavior and what they saw accordingly.
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I am Reverend posted:It's hard to work into a conversation but I don't think any line has made me laugh harder than "Maybe *I* was the lizard man who stole your precious serum." I don’t think it’s quite on the level of Every Which Way But Zeus, which has an all-time great line every ten seconds, but it’s definitely close.
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Sep 11, 2020 20:38
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SeanBeansShako posted:From what little we got of Rusty's musical the drat thing is such an ear worm. This is how you end the show, a Broadway musical. poo poo, no one could see that for awhile though. I would love to see the costume jobs for that.
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Sep 11, 2020 20:40
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SeanBeansShako posted:From what little we got of Rusty's musical the drat thing is such an ear worm. Bright Lights, Dean City is easily a top 5 ep for me. Aside from the catchy tunes there are just so many classic moments: "Hot Sandwich! You've murdered the Venture Boy!" "Shhh, I understand; you can't talk. You need help, just blink twice if he's your pimp" The villain job interview segment Underbeit snapping Manservant's neck unnecessarily And of course the "rear end in a top hat dimension" zinger delivered to bizzaro-Doc in the stinger
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Sep 11, 2020 20:42
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My top five are: 1)Every Which Way But Zeus 2)The Buddy System 3)Self Medication 4)The Inamorata Consequence 5)Victor Echo November The show is has so many hits that picking the last three was really difficult. There’s so many season 7 episodes that I really love that will probably move up once I’ve seen them a million times like I have S1-4 episodes.
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Sep 11, 2020 20:48
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pixaal posted:This is how you end the show, a Broadway musical. poo poo, no one could see that for awhile though. I would love to see the costume jobs for that. Only if the in-show Rusty has a full head of hair. Because of course the musical would be in-universe from the dimension where he's a success.
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my take on Jonas is that he's a confluence of the idealized Man's Man of the mid 20th century as well as the generally callous and ignorant methods of parenting common in the mid 20th century. like the logical extension of "what would a life of high adventure do to a child" gone further, "what would having an international jet setting tomb robber playboy with sole custody of a child be like in 1960?" like imagine having James Bond as a dad. christ Guy A. Person posted:I dunno, the Jonas stuff is also filtered directly through Rusty's POV. I would have agreed entirely before season 7, except that the way Team Venture talked about Jonas was drastically different and more nuanced than they are all presented getting along with Jonas in previous flashbacks. the times when jonas was being an acceptable dad don't make for good television. and even a terribly abusive or negligent father can be warm and caring sometimes Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Sep 11, 2020 |
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luxury handset posted:like imagine having James Bond as a dad. christ *headboard pounding on wall* another one dad? What's her name this time? Octopussy? And you believe her? She's sleeping with you for secrets gently caress you are naive.
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Sep 11, 2020 21:22
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"Pussy Galore? Dad that's not a name, what are- what do you mean you *cured* her of being a lesbian? That's not how it works, goddamnit old man!"
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Watching the early seasons, the gag about Rusty calling Dean “Dave” and stuff is pretty harsh. I think in later seasons after they figured out the Jonas character that kind of lovely parenting got pushed onto him and Rusty is shown just as more of a person struggling with his own demons while raising the boys. I can see a lot of him trying to give them the experience he had of being the son of a wealthy celebrity with all of the misguided baggage that comes with. It’s really well done. Ben’s while spiel about loving the boys so much that he made sure nothing terrible ever happened to them really hit home with me. I lost a child and I’d do anything to have her back. Rusty is a middling parent trying to raise his kids in a hosed up world and it’s kind of shocking how relatively well adjusted they came out while growing into their own people. I know it’s just a tv show but that aspect of it is really skillfully done and organic in a way most characters very much aren’t.
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Sep 11, 2020 23:05
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It only took about ten sets of extra lives to get them there
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Sep 11, 2020 23:17
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Brock, get their clothes
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TK-42-1 posted:Watching the early seasons, the gag about Rusty calling Dean “Dave” and stuff is pretty harsh. I think in later seasons after they figured out the Jonas character that kind of lovely parenting got pushed onto him and Rusty is shown just as more of a person struggling with his own demons while raising the boys. I can see a lot of him trying to give them the experience he had of being the son of a wealthy celebrity with all of the misguided baggage that comes with. It’s really well done. Ben’s while spiel about loving the boys so much that he made sure nothing terrible ever happened to them really hit home with me. I lost a child and I’d do anything to have her back. The fact the boys have died so many times surely has weighed on him, in fact we even got to see it does haunt his subconscious. Remember the episode Monarch was in his mind and there were all those dead versions of the boys running around, someone even pointed out once that episode was done and Rusty had accepted certain things his approach to the boys actually improved and he started to treat them better in following episodes.
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TK-42-1 posted:Watching the early seasons, the gag about Rusty calling Dean “Dave” and stuff is pretty harsh. I think in later seasons after they figured out the Jonas character that kind of lovely parenting got pushed onto him and Rusty is shown just as more of a person struggling with his own demons while raising the boys. I can see a lot of him trying to give them the experience he had of being the son of a wealthy celebrity with all of the misguided baggage that comes with. It’s really well done. Ben’s while spiel about loving the boys so much that he made sure nothing terrible ever happened to them really hit home with me. I lost a child and I’d do anything to have her back. I've always figured Rusty's parenting skills being at their worst during Season 1(and some of the other bits that nowadays feel kinda out of character for him) as being due to the "diet pills" he's on at the time(another trait that quietly got dropped over time)
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Sep 12, 2020 01:52
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I assumed said pills were purged by the Killinger visit and Rusty was just too lazy to go back to them. Maybe he weaned himself off with his bespoke cocktails.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I assumed said pills were purged by the Killinger visit and Rusty was just too lazy to go back to them. Killinger was encouraging him to take pills. He had space in his villain costume for them.
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Sep 12, 2020 02:13
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Ah so maybe that is why he kicked them afterwards.
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Sep 12, 2020 02:23
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Diet pills is code for speed, for anyone who doesn’t know, so he was uppers all the time, like a meth head
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TK-42-1 posted:Watching the early seasons, the gag about Rusty calling Dean “Dave” and stuff is pretty harsh. I think in later seasons after they figured out the Jonas character that kind of lovely parenting got pushed onto him and Rusty is shown just as more of a person struggling with his own demons while raising the boys. I can see a lot of him trying to give them the experience he had of being the son of a wealthy celebrity with all of the misguided baggage that comes with. It’s really well done. Ben’s while spiel about loving the boys so much that he made sure nothing terrible ever happened to them really hit home with me. I lost a child and I’d do anything to have her back. I have a dear friend who just lost their child too. Some things just make nothing else ever compare. The light of your child it never goes out.
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Bust Rodd posted:Diet pills is code for speed, for anyone who doesn’t know, so he was uppers all the time, like a meth head I'm reasonably sure they were literal diet pills, because Rusty is like that: completely not getting that it was slang.
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Sash! posted:I'm reasonably sure they were literal diet pills, because Rusty is like that: completely not getting that it was slang. They actually sold Speed as diet pills at one point
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TK-42-1 posted:His whole spiel about preying on their fear and moving like an animal to feel the kill is so good. Like dudes a legit psycho when he gets ramped up and still somehow has a heart of gold. It's a funny word!
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I always liked the idea that Jonas was basically a functional sociopath. He's following all the rules to act like he thinks a Man's Man, a Great Man, of his era should act, and plays the hero because it gets him fame, fortune and chicks, but we've seen plenty of casual disregarded for life and dignity of others, and that he treated Rusty basically as property. And there's points like with Venturion where he went too far even for his pack of pet psychos, and that he tends to get bored and forget about projects. It also might say something that Jonas was the primary mediator between the OSI and GCI. Rusty's tragedy is that, despite knowing that Jonas was a horrible father, he's still basically Rusty's only real role model, and his only idea of success looks like his father. Likewise, he knows what Jonas did to him was horrible, but still takes his kids on dangerous adventures simply because he doesn't know any other way to parent. (that said, he probably could have tried to just send them to school) Also, I can identify a lot with Rusty, especially that he got exposed to his father's whole lifestyle, but never actually taught any of the important things about it, and it explains so much that he's basically self-taught with super-science.
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Sep 12, 2020 06:42
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For the past 2 years, every time it rains I have to say: "I hope you brought rubbers .... a storm is approaching." in his voice of course.
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I like to go dadada da dadada https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=recquYTS-fE&t=96s
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White and Billy might be what Doc and Jackson want to be, but 24 and 21 are who they are
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ZombyDog posted:I like to go dadada da dadada I'm not sure that I think VB is the funniest show ever made, but I think this scene may be the funniest scene ever made. I can't even *think* about it without cracking the gently caress up.
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Sep 12, 2020 12:21
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I can keep it together right up till 24 makes his entrance.
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Sep 12, 2020 13:07
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The best bit is after Monarch hangs up and then loses his balance.
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Sep 12, 2020 13:31
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at one point i remember Doc talking about "yellow jackets" which are "diet pills" containing ephedrine and caffeine meant to speed up your metabolism. illegal in the usa but I'm sure Rusty could swing it.
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Sep 12, 2020 16:19
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Great show but now its over
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Sep 12, 2020 16:36
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The really disturbing thing (and yes, I know they're voiced by the same guy) is that Hunter Gathers and non-shouting Sgt. Hatred are the same voice, only with McCulloch likely having a straw in his mouth while doing the former.
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The goliath serum episode had Rusty trying to use one of his sons urine to pass a piss test. Company policyBIG HEADLINE posted:The really disturbing thing (and yes, I know they're voiced by the same guy) is that Hunter Gathers and non-shouting Sgt. Hatred are the same voice, only with McCulloch likely having a straw in his mouth while doing the former. I cant help but hear Hatred as older Hank with a smoking habit.
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Vord posted:The goliath serum episode had Rusty trying to use one of his sons urine to pass a piss test. Company policy On the one hand, that could be trying to hide amphetamines from the diet pills, on the other hand, he has a giant prog rock collection, so it’s really anyone’s guess as to what else is in his system.
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True. Also just remembered season 1's first episode had Rusty trying to get meds from a Mexican doctor. But I have tripolar disorder!
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Sep 12, 2020 17:09
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Isn't the joke there that you don't *need* a prescription to get pretty much anything you want from a pharmacy in Mexico? ...provided they have it, you know the name for it, and are willing to pay a "Gringo tax?"
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Doc literally has his own chemistry lab, he can probably mix up whatever if he feels like it. Jonny says that he got started on his drug habits as a kid due to having unsupervised access to his dad's lab.
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Vord posted:The goliath serum episode had Rusty trying to use one of his sons urine to pass a piss test. Company policy Doctor Venture is... PREGNANT?!?!?
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Tenzarin posted:Great show but now its over Yes but what's your favorite quote??
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Data Graham posted:I can keep it together right up till 24 makes his entrance. That's the part that takes a ludicrous and funny intro scene to a new level. I can believe that Twenty-One would do the sound effects and sing the rhythmic ostinato from "Mars, Bringer of War" upon his epic return to Monarch duty. That's goofy and fun. But the idea that Twenty-Four would pull up, singing the melody line in time with his partner in costumed villiany? Hilarious. SeanBeansShako posted:The best bit is after Monarch hangs up and then loses his balance. I have looped that scene before. It is so great. When the door opens and he falls, vanishing into darkness? I lose it every time. I wonder how many doors he fell through, one after the other, before the curvature of the halls wrapped around enough so that he could grab onto the walls to stop himself.
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