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SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012


Hav posted:

Wait a minute, hold on there....


OUYA controller's don't BSOD your computer when you push buttons. They just get stuck under the faceplate.

Q.E.D.

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Jimlit
Jun 30, 2005



Still less brown than Arma 3...

Equilibrium
Mar 19, 2003

by exmarx


quote:

Starting the 20th of June, we will offer massive 60% off sale of DCS products. The exception will be Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 having a 40% off sale. The sale will last until the 30th of June:

DCS: UH-1H Huey - $19.99
DCS: Combined Arms $11.99
DCS: P-51D Mustang $15.99
DCS: Black Shark 2 - $15.99
DCS: Black Shark 2 Upgrade $11.99
DCS: A-10C Warthog $15.99
DCS: A-10C Warthog 1.1.0.7 (English DVD box) $15.99
DCS: Black Shark (DVD box) $15.99
Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 $29.99
DCS: Black Shark $7.99

Looks like I picked a good time to get back into flight sims, can't wait to pick up both Black Shark 2 and Warthog for only $32.

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.



Oh god I've bought so much stuff this month why do they have to put Combined Arms on sale for $12 this month?

jzilla
Apr 13, 2007



So I guess now would be a good time to ask what everyone thinks about LockOn Flaming Cliffs 3 and DCS: Huey.

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011


jb7 posted:

So I guess now would be a good time to ask what everyone thinks about LockOn Flaming Cliffs 3 and DCS: Huey.

For the Huey, Dslyecxi has an hour or hour and a half long video on his YouTube where he just has a running commentary about it. It's fairly stream of consciousness but it'll probably give you a decent feel and opinion from someone you can trust on the matter.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012


I've played 3 of "DCS: Huey"'s campaign missions now, and spent several hours doing basic flight practice (Crashing around airports). I absolutely love the UH-1; the Huey is demanding, quirky, and oh so satisfying when you get it right. It's a nice break from having to constantly be rushing to mark targets and fire mavricks and GBUs. Even if you're just delivering supplies or taking some reporters on an escort mission with some attack choppers, the game manages to be rewarding. I'm not sure about it's multiplayer viability, you'd need some real good maps and setups I suspect, because it's not exactly fast or well armored.

It's taken me hours of practice to land without dying, and I still land like I'm drunk. Every time I manage to land exactly where I want to without nearly falling into my own rotor wash or swaying wildly is thrilling. It does not flatter you like the A-10, it actively tries to kill you if it realizes you don't know what the hell you're doing.

The campaign missions are scripted and fully voiced; I like the co-pilots banter, but the loving Americans keep shooting at me. They knocked out one of my ADF antennas last mission. I suspect in the next few missions, I'm going to have to go out with some rockets and mini-guns, and take care of those sons-of-bitches. Just because my name is Pedro doesn't mean you can shoot at a UN helicopter! I'm not even Mexican! I'm Spanish!

If you enjoy fast paced action, DCS Huey is not for you. If you want a low-rider that can fly, you'll like the Huey.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

Civil Aviation Socialist


Equilibrium posted:

Looks like I picked a good time to get back into flight sims, can't wait to pick up both Black Shark 2 and Warthog for only $32.

Looks like I'll pick up CA and start shooting at you fucks when you ask me to play DCS.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008



Hueys will probably last about 30s after getting airborne in multiplayer because of labels.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012


hobbesmaster posted:

Hueys will probably last about 30s after getting airborne in multiplayer because of labels.

Combined arms game.

Red team has political refugees that they don't want escaping. Have control of AAA guns. no SAMs or CAS, just artillery.

Blue team has to head to the refugees in Huey's to pick them up.

There could be multiple LZ's for the huey's making the red team have to choose between a perimeter, where they think the choppers will head through, or spread out to the LZ's, and not have enough hardware to cover them all at once.

There's multiplayer potential, but it's very specialized, and you'd need a really good map maker. It would look a lot different from A-10 multi player maps, and that could be a good thing. It's a shame I have no clue how to make maps, and I hate

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012



Has anyone heard anymore progress on the Rex SimAir release?

Their last few 'updates' don't appear to give too much, other than "We're still aive, and releasing soon"

I thought they were aiming for a early summer release myself, and I think it could revitalize the interest that might have tapered off in Vatsim etc

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003



Aside from Kilo and myself does anyone here still fly on vatsim regularly?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005



Fun Shoe

I'm just starting to get back in to it. I spent a few hours yesterday on VATSIM tooling around my new home town and today I spent some time offline familiarizing myself with the turbo DC3 in the OP. It's pretty nifty.

SwimNurd
Oct 28, 2007

mememememe


Kilonum posted:

Looks like I'll pick up CA and start shooting at you fucks when you ask me to play DCS.

Don't waste your money on CA, just buy FC3. Seriously it is right up your alley.

u fink u hard Percy
Sep 14, 2007




You just sold me on it.

EvilJoven posted:

I'm just starting to get back in to it. I spent a few hours yesterday on VATSIM tooling around my new home town and today I spent some time offline familiarizing myself with the turbo DC3 in the OP. It's pretty nifty.

Hell yeah!


I'd like to get into Vatsim. But I'm British and I only have mobile broadband, hence why I predominantly use air hauler. Is it feasible?

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

Civil Aviation Socialist


SwimNurd posted:

Don't waste your money on CA, just buy FC3. Seriously it is right up your alley.

Even with the discount I won't have the money.

Plus I would have to buy a new copy of LOMAC

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011


I would seriously suggest saving what you'd put into CA for LOMAC. CA is really, REALLY just a gimmicky little thing that you'll regret buying when you find it has barely any depth to it. It's fun for a short period of time and it's a nice way to sit in on a real multiplayer game without just observing if you don't feel like flying, but it really isn't worth more than about $5.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012


Daimo posted:

You just sold me on it.

Only you can prevent mast bumping and excessive flapping.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QkOpH2e6tM

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

sellouts posted:

Aside from Kilo and myself does anyone here still fly on vatsim regularly?

I still get my required controller hours logged each month but I haven't flown in forever. Aviation overload has put me off it for a while. Hope to return someday.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?


Well I've been arsing about with DCS A10 all night, and I'm starting to understand how things work. Lots of training flights to understand the various systems, although I doubt I'll do the startup from cold sequence again. It was a fun novelty and informative but I doubt I'll use that information again. Definitely going to invest in Track IR next month.

I've also been doing stupid things in the editor, such as pitting 15 P51Ds against a single MiG-29S. Hilariously the MiG's AI pilot tries to get into a turnfight with the P51s and eventually gets overwhelmed.

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?


Equilibrium posted:

Looks like I picked a good time to get back into flight sims, can't wait to pick up both Black Shark 2 and Warthog for only $32.

If I want to take advantage of this sale and get FC3, I need LOMAC right? Where's the best place to get that these days

Anarcho-Commissar
May 22, 2002

"The means of production being the collective work of humanity, the product should be the collective property of the race. Individual appropriation is neither just nor serviceable. All belongs to all."
- Pyotr Kropotkin




sellouts posted:

Aside from Kilo and myself does anyone here still fly on vatsim regularly?

I think killed a lot of people's time, but I'm sure it'll come back. Once I move next month I should be back on it more regularly.


(Formerly Colonial Air Force)

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


Shanakin posted:

If I want to take advantage of this sale and get FC3, I need LOMAC right? Where's the best place to get that these days

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B003U...edir_mdp_mobile

Comes with FC2, IIRC.

cool new Metroid game
Oct 7, 2009

hail satan



Grimey Drawer

I've been looking at picking up Flaming Cliffs 3 for a while, guess I'll do so on the 20th. Why announce a sale over a week in advance, though? Why not just have the sale now?

Hav
Dec 11, 2009



Fun Shoe


Does Flaming Cliffs 3 have tutorials in the same vein as the DCS sims?

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?



Bugger. No Digital distribution at all? I'm not keen on paying as much shipping the game as the game itself only for it to maybe arrive at earliest a week after the DCS sale has ended.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008



Hav posted:

Does Flaming Cliffs 3 have tutorials in the same vein as the DCS sims?

Just videos unfortunately.

MrYenko
Jun 17, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...


Shanakin posted:

Bugger. No Digital distribution at all? I'm not keen on paying as much shipping the game as the game itself only for it to maybe arrive at earliest a week after the DCS sale has ended.

I called around to every best buy in my area, and finally found it that way. Go by sku number, so they don't get confused.

bloops
Dec 30, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!


Is FC3 out of beta and have a pretty decent single player component?

Dark_Swordmaster
Oct 31, 2011


Their website says it is not.

Keeku
Jun 3, 2005



Flight simulator newbie questions: I'm trying to learn how to fly the Airbus X Extended, and as part of the tutorial they set up the route of the flight into the plane's flight computer. I want to adapt this to flights I'm likely to fly, and wanted to try a test flight from Melbourne to Canberra in Australia. I don't know much about flying so am trying to get my head around understanding programming the flight computer with routes I find online. I used a flight simulation route finder and was given this as the route:

YMML (0.0nm) -SID-> DOSEL (40.3nm) -Y59-> EBONY (140.2nm) -Y59->
ARRAN (174.8nm) -Y59-> NONUP (215.2nm) -DCT-> YSCB (259.7nm)

As far as I can see I need to find the SID to use. I found this chart for Melbourne Airport for flights heading the direction of Canberra:


(from http://charts.aero/)

I compared this chart to the SID options given in the Airbus' computer, and saw there was MNG1, NONIX1 and DOSEL8 among others. So is it as simple as selecting DOSEL8 for my SID to get me to the start of the route I found online?

Also, as far as I can tell based on what I learned in the tutorial, the rest of the data in the route should be entered into the flight computer as airways from DOSEL:

VIA - TO
Y59 - EBONY
Y59 - ARRAN
Y59 - NONUP

I don't understand what I should be doing for the "-DCT-> YSCB (259.7nm)" section of the route. I know I need to put a STAR in at some point, is DCT where the STAR goes or is that something else I should somehow enter into the airways section?

Please try to keep answers as newbie friendly as possible as I've been getting confused pretty easily with all this stuff. Eventually I'll try to get a larger understanding of navigation, but at this stage I'm just hoping to adapt the tutorial flight to my own local region. I appreciate any help you guys can offer.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?


How do I enter stuff into the scratchpad for stuff like the Maverick slew speed and LS time for weapon profiles?

simble
May 11, 2004



Falken posted:

How do I enter stuff into the scratchpad for stuff like the Maverick slew speed and LS time for weapon profiles?

You can use the UFC (up front controller) or the CDU keyboard on your right. Enter the data, press the appropriate select key to fill it, then save the profile.

Kilonum
Sep 30, 2002

Civil Aviation Socialist


Keeku posted:

I compared this chart to the SID options given in the Airbus' computer, and saw there was MNG1, NONIX1 and DOSEL8 among others. So is it as simple as selecting DOSEL8 for my SID to get me to the start of the route I found online?
Yes

Keeku posted:

I don't understand what I should be doing for the "-DCT-> YSCB (259.7nm)" section of the route. I know I need to put a STAR in at some point, is DCT where the STAR goes or is that something else I should somehow enter into the airways section?
The STAR goes there, it will either be the MAND7B (Canberra landing rwy 16) from ARRAN or the POLI3A from EBONY (Canberra landing rwy 34)

As for putting it in, I'm not sure as I don't have that particular plane.

simble
May 11, 2004



Shanakin posted:

If I want to take advantage of this sale and get FC3, I need LOMAC right? Where's the best place to get that these days

Are you American?

This still works, but I'm 99% sure it's only in the US:

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_...159900/sac.true

I used this when I got FC3, and it worked.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?


simble posted:

You can use the UFC (up front controller) or the CDU keyboard on your right. Enter the data, press the appropriate select key to fill it, then save the profile.
Still no dice. I've tried entering data into the UFC and then clicking on the slew rate for the mavericks to no avail.

Keeku
Jun 3, 2005



Kilonum posted:

Yes
The STAR goes there, it will either be the MAND7B (Canberra landing rwy 16) from ARRAN or the POLI3A from EBONY (Canberra landing rwy 34)

As for putting it in, I'm not sure as I don't have that particular plane.

Thanks! Will give this a shot.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012


Falken posted:

How do I enter stuff into the scratchpad for stuff like the Maverick slew speed and LS time for weapon profiles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA1pXR62qF4
This GBU training run covers LS time input. autolase, LS time, CCRP, CCIP, are all in DSMS.

Not sure on the Maverick slew speed. It might be covered in the guided munitions tutorial.

Shanakin
Mar 26, 2010

The whole point of stats are lost if you keep it a secret. Why Didn't you tell the world eh?


simble posted:

Are you American?

This still works, but I'm 99% sure it's only in the US:

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_...159900/sac.true

I used this when I got FC3, and it worked.

Sorry, probably should have mentioned that in the first post, Australia, which makes the amazon orders a pain (around $40 with long rear end shipping times). is it just the Key you need? I wonder if a VPN would work for the ubisoft shop.

MrYenko posted:

I called around to every best buy in my area, and finally found it that way. Go by sku number, so they don't get confused.

That's not a terrible idea, although It'll have to be EB games (local gamestop)

anyway thanks guys. I'll check that out but may just have to skip it.

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Minto Took
Dec 4, 2002



Fun Shoe

To install Flaming Cliffs 3, you need a present installation of LOMAC.

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