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I have been recruited into helping my girlfriend find a 'nice' laptop for her sister. So I set out looking at something with an IPS screen and good physical build quality. I first started my search with the good old Thinkpad T-series, but we decided to look for something more slim. After physically looking at what there is to offer, I think we a pretty set on a 13" 2 in 1. Right now I think I have narrowed to the following in the $800-1000 range. -lenovo yoga 720 13" - seems okay but cost of upgrading to 512gb drive seems silly -hp Spectre 360 - a bit more expensive base price, but the incremental upgrades are reasonably priced. -refurbished surface book - very slick package but the idea of being stuck with a 128 or 256gb drive in a glued shut case scares me. I doubt she needs a ton of storage now, but she probably would use whatever we get for ~5+ years.
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# ¿ Nov 27, 2017 06:08 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 10:35 |
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Quixzlizx posted:I've heard that the TN panel on those particular Dells are bad even for TN. e:TBH I can't remember if it was an option on the T-series then. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Dec 4, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 4, 2017 04:04 |
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Not sure if it matters, but turns out it is actually a T430. This is what this website looks like straight on: and from lower... it gives a solarization type effect in dark scenes: It bugs me a hell of a lot more than her so in the end it is okay. It has been a solid reliable laptop since I threw an SSD in there. For some reason windows defender paired with a mechanical drive made it unresponsive when coming back form sleep.
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# ¿ Dec 5, 2017 22:59 |
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peak debt posted:And there is rarely 0% financing that doesn't come with a pitfall. quote:Interest will be charged to your account from the transaction posting date if the purchase balance is not paid in full by your Payment due date in January, 2019 CopperHound fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Dec 6, 2017 |
# ¿ Dec 6, 2017 22:53 |
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So... uhh... just a heads up: HP Statutory Ape posted:My personal rule is that if I can't scrape together a grand to buy something, I probably can't afford it and shouldnt be financing it I wouldn't want to be just a small unforeseen hiccup in my life cascade into 30%APR.... but this isn't BFC so...
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# ¿ Dec 6, 2017 23:26 |
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The best thing about programmable RGB lights is turning them off.Statutory Ape posted:i can guarantee you that the gooniness of the actual individuals that might own a gaming laptop far outweighs the aesthetic of the laptop
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2017 22:27 |
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I think you are underestimating how much a SSD helps performance.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2017 01:08 |
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Update on my duplicate orders from HP: They were considerate enough to send an email saying that they were unable to cancel my order two days after it shipped... 12 days after placing the order.wolrah posted:IMO they haven't made a good mouse since they used ADB. I thought you surely must be exaggerating, but I went and looked at the apple mouse wiki page and brought back repressed memories of hockey pucks and a mouse where the entire thing is the button.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2017 23:02 |
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If you think you'd be okay without a screen that completely detaches there are a lot of other 2 in 1 laptops out there with good screens and okay digitizers. I noticed Lisa from mobile tech review seemed to do some good comparison you might want to check out. You can probably spend a grand less on something that is almost as good minus a bit of polish but isn't glued shut.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2017 20:29 |
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If drawing is how you make money you should definitely check out them out in person. Check out best buy to see if they have some on display. I know the one I went to in San Jose had the 2in1s from Lenovo, Dell, hp, and Microsoft all set up to check out.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2017 20:49 |
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The amount charged to upgrade from 250GB to 500GB on that thing just seems bonkers to me. $300.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 15:53 |
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Base line model only was on discount?
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2017 16:07 |
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apropos man posted:I thought "Yeah, the screen can't be that bad since it's a Thinkpad. It wouldn't have passed quality if it was atrocious". CopperHound posted:Not sure if it matters, but turns out it is actually a T430.
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# ¿ Dec 27, 2017 19:36 |
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I just picked up a 13" Spectre x360 for somebody else... So no long term review here: Good: -solid build quality -actually comes with the pen and a laptop sleeve -looks good (if that sort of thing is important to you) -pen and touch input seems great from a non artist perspective Less good from my point of view: -Screen is a super glossy fingerprint magnet -touchpad has the buttons built into it which is a little awkward for me... But I pretty much hate all touchpads in general. -16:9 aspect ratio doesn't quite feel right in tablet mode. Overall, if you are looking for a convertible with a high quality finish for less than micro$oft money I highly recommend it.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2018 18:40 |
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That $70 tablet PC linked on the previous page doesn't have pen support does it? If it did I'd say just buy ten of those instead.
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# ¿ Jan 19, 2018 00:32 |
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My partner has $1000 dollars to spend on a computer that will fade into the ether next week. We bought her sister a Spectre 360 in December, it's nice but the wide screen feels really weird in tablet mode. Is there something else in that price range we should consider? I know surface has 3:2 screens, but
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# ¿ Jun 7, 2018 18:10 |
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A week and a half ago I made the mistake of placing an order with Lenovo when I don't have a huge amount of time to sit around and wait for it. At checkout the estimated ship date was listed as today. Now the order still shows processing with and estimated delivery date of July 10. I am leaving the country for 2 months on the 9th Last laptop I ordered was from HP and they shipped in about 3-4 days.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2018 00:25 |
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NewFatMike posted:took multiple days and a phone call to get my XPS 15 ordered, and nearly a week later it still hasn't shipped. I sure hope they can get some management in there that can change the sales process to "Underpromise Overdeliver" as opposed to the exact opposite. So... any recommendations in the 1000-1300 range that I can actually get for sure before July 7th that: -Portable (12-14" screen) -not a super short 16:9 screen with huge bezels (So.. I guess 3:2?) -not glued shut (I'd like to have the option of changing the ssd)
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2018 01:53 |
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Maybe less sexy, but have any of you gotten your hands on an HP Pro x2? e:or elite x2 oh, they actually have an option to not pay $150 for windows. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jun 22, 2018 |
# ¿ Jun 22, 2018 02:49 |
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I guess I'm sold more on the screen ratio rather than the form factor. 16:9 is terrible on a 13" screen. I'll hold off for now then. Maybe there will be some more options this winter, or at the very least the early adopters of the Huawei Matebook X Pro will let me know if there are any issues with the laptop or support.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2018 04:32 |
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Bob Morales posted:Huawei Matebook Pro review
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2018 19:18 |
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Toalpaz posted:I'm pretty sure she doesn't need an SSD or anything,
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# ¿ Jul 3, 2018 23:58 |
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VulgarandStupid posted:The XPS 13, at least the old body style only had a 2 lane TB3 connection. It was not great in my personal experience. I wonder if the CPU thermal throttling would be a bottle neck.
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# ¿ Jul 5, 2018 20:34 |
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The Milkman posted:Does anyone use one of these 2-in-1s?
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# ¿ Jul 16, 2018 22:24 |
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The Milkman posted:That's the one I'm most interested in, at least from reading reviews. The 13". I was looking at the Dell XPS too.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2018 01:21 |
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Amara posted:I have to run Epic on it.
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# ¿ Aug 17, 2018 05:16 |
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I just put in an order for an xps 13-9370 from Dell Outlet less than 24 hours ago and already got the shipping notice. Yay. So much faster and cheaper than built to order. Now I just hope the device wasn't returned for a defect. E: if you don't see the exact build you want, just keep checking back. I didn't see a 16gb build with a 1080p screen at first, but four showed up an hour later. It looks like available inventory gets updated in small batches. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 06:17 on Sep 19, 2018 |
# ¿ Sep 19, 2018 06:13 |
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Just got my partner's Dell Outlet xps13 in the mail today. Close enough to brand new as far as I can tell but I was amazed by how little was in the box. Just the laptop, power supply, and one sheet of paper with battery safety junk written on it along with a bare minimum of packing materials to keep things secure. I have a question about undervolting: do any of the options work without messing up when the computer sleeps? I don't want to leave her with a computer that needs janitoring.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2018 01:17 |
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I now have throttle stop running at -150mv CPU/cache and -100mv gpu. I think it is stable and it comes back from sleep, but I haven't tried a multi hour burn in or hibernate yet. I have it set to run on the login of the primary user, but is there a graceful way to handle it with different user accounts without double applying offsets? If not, no big deal for our use case. E: also windows hello is equally creepy and awesome. Just sit in front of the computer and it logs into the correct account. E: oh and OneDrive now can do sync on demand/remove local copies only so that makes having a smaller SSD bearable. I think I'm going to stop paying for Google drive and move all my stuff over. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Sep 29, 2018 |
# ¿ Sep 29, 2018 21:02 |
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It allows direct 1 to 4 pixel mapping instead of blurring edges. Try looking at text in a non native resolution if you need a good example.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2018 21:46 |
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isndl posted:I can configure it for primarily AC use and instead of topping off to 100% all the time it'll stop charging at e.g. 80% to reduce battery wear. Pretty neat.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2018 16:43 |
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isndl posted:I don't know of any manufacturer that makes laptops with clit mice besides Lenovo. Your options are pretty limited there.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2018 16:39 |
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Nostalgia4Ass posted:I bought the fanciest XPS 13 a few weeks ago since Best Buy had it marked down to 1699 and it's probably the nicest laptop I've ever owned. I am running linux on the machine because I am back in school for software development and am trying to broaden my knowledge base a bit. I have a desktop pc which a 1440p monitor that I run windows on and play video games and stuff with. I am considering buying a 4k monitor and some sort of dock for the XPS 13 so I can use either computer at my desk. However, I am concerned about keeping two sets of mice and keyboards in a limited space. I've seen there are things that allow you to switch your keyboard and mouse between two systems and am curious if something like that might work if used in conjunction with a USB C dock for my laptop? Would there be any drawbacks with a setup like that? E: also this might get you some of the functionality you are looking for without the hardware: http://www.aka.ms/mm E2: oh right, I don't know about Linux support. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Oct 21, 2018 |
# ¿ Oct 21, 2018 19:43 |
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That seems okay, and going through Costco saves you from having to deal with the worst part of Lenovo laptops (which is dealing with Lenovo). If you want to go a little cheaper you can probably get a refurbished XPS 13 from Dell outlet. If I didn't know, I couldn't tell the one I had received wasn't new. They update their listings in small batches, so if you don't see the configuration you like, try checking back in a few hours. They have this listed for $1003 right now: https://m.dell.com/h5/m/r/outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/Online/SecondaryInventorySearch.aspx?c=us&cs=22&l=en&s=dfh&sign=PXhcOSHtr1T4IOw%2fPR7UdY6SzYhtqyPcwRy%2fE9FGKuEksYJi%2fBsLECnCJXporCvyaL6BElHioI6qSwBXjJa1U9Ujnv79zTWqAEkZ9W8Di3AngqGNoMOQRx0FSO5PEaDzaTimv23z21bH0Lalk8Jsm%2faDRfGQFKS0T6TDIRdxpzfo2FDOSIbViUSEnMs6acvs08trCXbNB2wnxE30lenqRQ%3d%3d posted:XPS 13 - 9370 CopperHound fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Oct 24, 2018 |
# ¿ Oct 24, 2018 00:07 |
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If you're lucky, it is as simple as settings>update & security>change product key. Most laptops have a sticker with a product key on them somewhere. Maybe under the battery if it is removable. You might end up with a big mess of drivers if you aren't doing a clean install between swaps. e:If it still doesn't like the hardware change after changing the key, you might have to link it up with your respective microsoft accounts. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 30, 2018 |
# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 18:50 |
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retrieving a key from a non boot drive is a little more complicated, but this should work for you if you select an external registry: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/product_cd_key_viewer.html
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2018 19:19 |
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Leroy Dennui posted:I need to replace my laptop yesterday. Has anybody had any issues in regards to Dell or Lenovo Outlet laptops arriving at their doorstep way late? I remember reading that it can take a while for Lenovo stuff to ship, but I think that was for custom laptops. If you need a new laptop by a certain time, do not trust the time estimates on the Lenovo (and probably Dell also) order pages. TBH, while they make some great laptops, I would recommend limiting your interaction with Lenovo as much as possible. You will be more successful trying to ask a wall to move out of your way.
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 05:06 |
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For "future proofing" your money is probably better spent on ram than the latest generation processor when you account for the fact that you can't upgrade that ram after the fact in an xps13. E: the SSD can be upgraded, so don't feel like to need to pay the crazy price Dell charges to upgrade to a 1tb drive. CopperHound fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 2, 2018 |
# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 22:14 |
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Hey, I have a question about Lenovo batteries. If the serial number listed in the vantage app doesn't match what is printed on the battery, is it a pretty sure sign that it is counterfeit?
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# ¿ Nov 2, 2018 23:17 |
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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 10:35 |
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Lol, nice catch. I'm going to go get my thirty bucks back and see if I can get Paypal to screw them for trying to pass off fakes as genuine.
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# ¿ Nov 3, 2018 00:00 |