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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:So I should assume pretty much every laptop screen is lovely, unless someone specifically says it's not?
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# ¿ Jun 13, 2013 14:31 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:22 |
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sigma 6 posted:Wait . . . so the Ideapads have Haswell chips but not the Thinkpads? The discounts are almost all either/or deals, so if you've got a student discount you should compare and see which gives you the better price, but no they're not going to let you stack discounts like that. Unless their website fucks up, which it's known to do, so might as well give it a shot. The IdeaPad is worse than the ThinkPad in terms of reliability and durability, no question. The W530 is the type of laptop you can sit on a desk and then when your rear end in a top hat co-worker trips over the cord and it crashes to the floor, you can just pick back up and be reasonably confident nothing broke. The IdeaPad would probably crack in half. There is a reason that the USMC's secret computers (that we care about) are all ThinkPads, but the day-to-day poo poo machines are all Dell and HP junkers. But yes, right now, today, the IdeaPad packs the better internals pretty much all the way around. The real answer, of course, is to not get impatient--wait another week or two and see what the new ThinkPads look like. You can expect that the internals will be fairly similar to the Y510p, but with a build quality that can't be beat.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 06:16 |
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Oxxidation posted:What's this thread's opinion on extended warranties? In the end, always remember that they wouldn't offer extended warranties if they didn't make money on them.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 17:33 |
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Mega Comrade posted:Mind if I ask why you don't just get a desktop? If you plan on never moving it you are pretty much throwing away money by buying a laptop. Not to say that people who can have desktops shouldn't, I'm just saying there certainly are those outside cases.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2013 19:15 |
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Mega Comrade posted:Is the real world performance between a i5-3320M and a i5-3210m negligible? I don't know enough about current benchmarks of laptops to read into it myself, if it's tiny, think i'd rather have the built in webcam.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2013 19:23 |
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voltron posted:Has anyone picked up a MSI GT70 2OC-065US? This laptop seems like the bee's knees. e; that the $150 upgrade screen has only 72% NTSC coverage makes me wonder how poor the colors on the default one are.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2013 23:08 |
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Wait until Lenovo refreshed the ThinkPad. It should be pretty soon. If those drop with options for the higher-end IGPs, it will largely eliminate the need for a dGPU for anything other than high-end gaming, and probably save you a pretty penny in the process. The current dGPUs you're going to find available on 14-15" laptops under $800 aren't going to be much better than the Haswell IGP, anyhow. Unless you need it RIGHT NOW, I strongly recommend waiting.
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# ¿ Jun 15, 2013 23:54 |
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shrughes posted:This is not true.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2013 03:04 |
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z06ck posted:Anyone?
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2013 03:19 |
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Thankfully. I'll be happy to see the days of everything being 1366x768 finally come to an end. Though whether Lenovo wises up and finally slaps a nice screen on the T4xx series has yet to be seen.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2013 03:55 |
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Chop Suey posted:When I was searching I probably just wasn't seeing any thinkpads with a designated graphics card for under $800.
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# ¿ Jun 16, 2013 04:07 |
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Calidus posted:Anyone have fan noise issues with their T430? I picked one up for the office and the fan is deafening even when the cpu is only sitting at 40 C. I have never had a problem like this with the other Thinkpads in the office.
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# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 15:00 |
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Hadlock posted:There's no i5 Haswell chip available yet, and if they put a Haswell chip in their ultrabook, they have to equip it with a touchscreen.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 05:37 |
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InstantInfidel posted:I think it's less about the branding and more about the subsidies Intel shovels your way, but the branding can't hurt. The market was trending towards small and light anyway, Intel just artificially sped up the process.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 06:41 |
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Toshiba Satellites are, indeed, of questionable build quality. Anything a laptop maker slaps the label of "Everyday Value" on should immediately be assumed to be cheap plastic junk. If you really cannot wait for a ThinkPad Haswell, consider picking up a current ThinkPad as the sales inevitably ramp up. There aren't a whole lot of "cheap but decent" Haswell laptops out yet.
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# ¿ Jun 20, 2013 06:51 |
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InstantInfidel posted:A lot of theoretical power that's pretty constrained by a tiny thermal envelope that results in throttling and the (admittedly much improved) drawbacks of SLI, including microstuttering. It makes a lot more sense to either get a single 750M or get a better GPU altogether.
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2013 05:50 |
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hooah posted:Along those lines how practical is it to reformat the small SSD that comes in some of the ThinkPads and install Windows on it?
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2013 03:54 |
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The Nexus 7 can't be beat for the price, assuming you're ok with a 7" screen. I don't know too many people who want to actually work on a 7" screen. It's fine for maps, movies, games, etc., but it's pretty damned small once you start talking about using it for word processing or the like. At $400 the Nexus 10 isn't nearly as cheap, but it's a very solid performer and still a good deal cheaper than the closest iPad.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2013 19:00 |
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johnny sack posted:Awesome thanks, I didn't see that. tl;dr you're realistically not going to be saving more than $100 or so a year (unless you run your poo poo 24/7 like a retard), so don't buy a laptop for the power savings.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2013 22:28 |
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voltron posted:What laptop has the nicest (understand that's subjective) screen? I am looking for a 15" screen that has great visuals. I think integrated video will do fine for my purposes (Counter-strike, Q3, and 1080p video).
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2013 22:30 |
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Are you including monitors in this calculation? Mine use a bit over 100 watts each. Plus if you're running them during the summer, that heats up the room and your air conditioner has to work harder, using even more electricity. Unless your electricity costs 30c/kWh or more, you're unlikely to see enough electrical savings no matter how you cut it to really care about--and even at 30c/kWh and assuming an extra 200W for multiple monitors etc., you're still talking less than a WoW subscription's savings a month, even if you leave your poo poo on 24/7. Saving a few bucks is a nice side-effect, sure, but no one should be going into buying a desktop-replacement laptop thinking that they're going to save substantial money over the long-term by doing so.
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2013 23:13 |
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NeoSeeker posted:How much more would I have to put into it to bump up another level? DDR3L isn't a huge issue either way. It's a nice power-saving bonus if you have it, but it's not going to buy you much extra run-time, so it's no big deal to not have it.
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# ¿ Jun 23, 2013 07:53 |
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Chemical Shift posted:Does anyone know whether installing an mSATA SSD into my X230 (purchased April) would void the extended warranty. I have asked Lenovo several times and they constantly tell me that "it might, it would be better for you to send it to us". Online videos of the installation look super easy, I just thought I'd ask before I head over to the SSD drive megathread to ask for recommendations. But, no, if you tossed in a mSATA SSD and your screen died a month later, they would not be able to deny your warranty. Obviously you should remove the SSD before you ship it back to them, but that's about it.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 01:30 |
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z16bitsega posted:E: I'd also be switching to an SSD, does the X use some goofy small sized drive like my T400s does? The T430 is one of the best-built, most durable laptops you can buy under $1000, but the battery life on the standard battery still isn't amazing--about 3-4 hours. You can get an extended battery off Amazon for $70-$80 that'll go 6+ hours, though. The screen is, admittedly, mediocre at best and there's nothing you can do about it. Unless you need to replace your laptop NOW, you may be better off waiting for the Haswell refresh in a month or two and hoping that Lenovo bothers to pair the new T4xx with a monitor that doesn't suck. I'm curious as to how your warranty experience has been poor. Every dealing I've had with IBM so far has been extremely easy and usually results in them sending whatever parts I ask for with only the most basic of questioning, most of which usually revolves around whether or not I want to pay for weekend shipping.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 01:45 |
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z16bitsega posted:So which does the X230 use, 2.5 or mSATA? z16bitsega posted:Weren't they claiming up to 30 hours or something silly like that when the T420 came out? What happened with that? z16bitsega posted:Performance in terms of raw processing power really does not matter much to me. With my current Core 2 Duo, I don't think I've ever done anything that's been processor-limited. I have my doubts about Lenovo using a screen that doesn't suck, given their track record on such things. z16bitsega posted:Well, since you asked...
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 05:09 |
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Oh, I don't expect them to slap a high-quality screen on the T431 or whatever it'll be called as a default option--you're right, great viewing angles don't really sell business-class laptops at that price point. But it wouldn't kill them to offer a more expensive screen as an add-on option. poo poo, they already do that with the T430, why not make it a $60 upgrade instead of a $20 one and make it a screen that wouldn't disappoint everyone?
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2013 06:28 |
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the black husserl posted:Am I misreading this? My early 2010 Macbook pro runs Witcher 2 and Human Revolution on medium settings just fine. Surely the modern cards haven't gotten worse?
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 03:52 |
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Brut posted:Alright so seeing as Haswell thinkpads or Yogas are not really around the corner yet, I'm almost certainly gonna pull the trigger on a T530. I'd like to have an SSD as the main drive and a regular HDD for storage, I see that in the customization I can replace the optical drive with a 7200rpm 500gb for $110 including bay adapter, and I can add in an mSATA drive. What's my best option here? just get the bay thing and install an ssd as the primary drive myself? I don't know anything about mSATA so that's really what's confusing me here. Your best option is to decide what sized HDD you want and order the laptop with that--and only that. Then wander over to NewEgg or the like and buy a mSATA SSD drive of the appropriate size. Here's a long-time favorite of the SSD thread: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226226 (the SSD thread will happily assist you in picking one out if you want). You can then install the mSATA into a small slot under one of the plates on the bottom of the T530--no crazy adapter needed. This is far cheaper than opting for a factory installed mSATA/SSD of any sort.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 05:20 |
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Booting from the mSATA is no problem--that's pretty much the exact setup I run in my T430. You can use Acronis or whatnot to clone the disk if you wish, or you can use install disks of your own (it'll ask you to burn a set the first time you boot) to "factory restore" to the mSATA. The only difficulty is if you want to use the disks, you have to pop out the HDD (easy--it's just one screw and a pull-tab) or it'll automatically set the restore point to the HDD and not let you change it to the mSATA. But yes, you can easily clone/restore to the mSATA and run it that way, or you can do a clean install of Windows if that's your preference (just ensure you have the network drivers on a USB drive or something). The ThinkPad doesn't come with a whole lot of bloatware, but it still has a small selection of odds and ends that most people are just going to delete (or should delete) anyhow. Also, once you get everything up and running and have burned a set of restore disks, you can wander in and delete the restore partition that Lenovo automatically makes--it'll save you quite a bit of space on your pricy SSD.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 06:38 |
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Brut posted:Could you elaborate on the slowness? I'm about to pick one up next week for a new laptop, by how much are they slower? Oxxidation posted:New laptop's coming today. Obviously it's going to have bloatware on it - are clean installs generally recommended whenever you get new machines, or would uninstalling the bloatware program-by-program suffice?
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2013 15:19 |
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agarjogger posted:Can I pop my hard drive out of the old one and into the new one? Or do I have a lower chance of tiny errors down the line if I do a new install on the new computer? I'm not totally clear on the relationship between hardware and software. They say the hardware config is identical, but with six months difference, who knows?
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 07:12 |
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voltron posted:Hey! Those of us seeking larger laptops (for whatever reason!!) would also like advice once in a while. I mean, I'd love to be able to recommend the Razer Blade series, as it's one of the only laptops that seems to combine performance, quality, and still keeps it under 7lbs, but it's also $2500 ($2000 for the 14" version), and no one seems to have any actual reviews of it yet.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 18:54 |
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QuarkJets posted:What's worst about gaming laptops is that Haswell's integrated graphics are so good that you could easily get by with just that and claim to have a "gaming" machine in something light and thin. You just don't get to have the pretentious joy of being able to play AAA titles at 60 fps at max quality, you have to scale back a bunch of settings instead. And, trust me--this coming from someone who spent a year carrying around 30-40lbs packs on a daily basis--if you get an 8lbs+ laptop you will stop carrying it to class after the first few weeks unless you are explicitly required to bring it. 8lbs doesn't sound like a lot, but it turns out to be really loving annoying after awhile. If you want to test this, take a gallon of water (8.33lbs) and carry it around for a few days and see what you think.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 20:31 |
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QuarkJets posted:With Haswell you should already be able to run Civ 5 at much better than really low settings. The Civ series doesn't make particularly huge leaps in graphics requirements, a Haswell would probably be able to run Civ 6 in a few years on really low settings but at half the price of an mGPU top of the line gaming laptop And yeah, SLI in a laptop is a hilarious way to part a fool from his money. Due to thermal issues, most SLI setups are not all that much faster than their single-card versions, while being more expensive and managing worse thermals.
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# ¿ Jun 29, 2013 23:03 |
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Mutation posted:I'd also like to be able to play Battlefield 5 / Destiny on very low settings in the future. Think about it. 2 years ago a $1500 gaming laptop would have had something like a GTS 360M. Today that's about equivalent to a 630/635/640M LE depending on the game. That means it'd be only slightly faster (if at all) than the HD4600 IGP that some Haswell processors are packing--and obviously the CPU is slower and battery performance a crap-ton worse. With Intel taking graphics performance seriously, this scenario is likely to repeat itself. So, yeah.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 01:18 |
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InstantInfidel posted:Buying a gaming laptop any time in the next year is, actually, probably stupid idea as instead of just a bad one. Gaming laptops usually can't play AAA titles on high/max settings for more than a year or two anyhow, and new consoles dropping won't really change that--if you buy now, it'll be another ~12 months before you really see games pushing the hardware you bought, and after that you'll start seeing your laptop's age. Buy in a year and you just start the same thing shifted by a year: you'll get ~12 months of being able to play whatever with good performance, and then slip and slide your way into obsolescence at about the two year mark. You can't future-proof your laptop, but at the same time waiting doesn't really buy you a whole lot, either.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 19:55 |
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Torabi posted:Perhaps. I'd rather not wait that long since I do other things and I have a stationary pc for gaming. My current laptop that I consider kinda crap runs far cry 3 on mediun/high.
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# ¿ Jun 30, 2013 19:57 |
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Torabi posted:So much for MSI. Not touching them then. Guess I'll just wait for more Haswell laptops that are midrange to show up.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2013 00:58 |
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TenementFunster posted:I'm about to order an Alienware 14 with the i7-4700MQ, 1080p display and GTX765M. Am I about to do a dumb thing? Should I get Win8? Is it still cheaper to buy the SSD I plan to put in and more RAM separately? quote:To say that the Alienware 14 gets a little hot under the collar during extended gaming sessions is a massive understatement. After we played roughly 20 minutes of "Tomb Raider," the 14's keyboard had reached an uncomfortable 101 degrees Fahrenheit between the G and H keys. The middle of the underside of the system topped out at a disturbing 120 degrees, while the rear vent got as high as 154 degrees on the thermometer. The sole cool spot was the touchpad, which registered at just 88 degrees. As for the SSD and RAM, yes, buy aftermarket and save a bunch of cash. Just keep the originals in a box somewhere, because if you ever have to get warranty support, they're only obligated to support the original configuration. e; if you haven't already, take a look at the Razer Blade. It's in the same class as the Alienware 14, and is probably worth a look to see if you prefer one over the other. DrDork fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Jul 2, 2013 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 10:22 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:edit: Also looking at the cheaper end of the thinkpad range unless there are good reasons to get something more expensive.
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2013 05:09 |