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Droyer
Oct 9, 2012



So I'm researching Diaclone and with the exception of a couple of retools every single robot toy after they started using realistic vehicles became a Transformer.

Except the guy on the right in this pic.



And I can't help but wonder why they excluded him specifically.

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Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

I was like "wow that's a pretty cool jazz statue"

then I saw the second post

https://twitter.com/SDC_MisterJazzz...320662412992512

DisposableHero
Feb 25, 2005
bah weep granna weep ninny bong

Finally received the last two Seacons. Really happy with this set. Tentakil is the weakest for me but I still have to give it credit for being a pretty creative re-use of the female combiner team limb mold.

Definitely can't hold one of the individual bots as a gun but it works surprisingly well as a gun emplacement socketed into one of the combiner hands.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl and FOURTEEN KARAT GOLD!!!

Warning: SU Season 3 Spoilers


Droyer posted:

So I'm researching Diaclone and with the exception of a couple of retools every single robot toy after they started using realistic vehicles became a Transformer.

Except the guy on the right in this pic.



And I can't help but wonder why they excluded him specifically.

Probably either a problem with the mold or it didn't pass US safety standards

Burkion
May 10, 2012

Changeman! And Not A Moment Too Soon!


I'm glad to see even Blitzwings' original art wasn't accurate to his toy design

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Droyer posted:

And I can't help but wonder why they excluded him specifically.
My immature reaction is "rotor dick"

Captain Magic
Apr 3, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.

Spiderdrake posted:

My immature reaction is "rotor dick"

I thought that too but then, Megatron is pistol dick

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012



Spiderdrake posted:

My immature reaction is "rotor dick"

That's uh, that's not where the dick goes my dude.

Spiderdrake
May 12, 2001



Droyer posted:

That's uh, that's not where the dick goes my dude.
Look I know you're the thread's leading diaclonologist but when you've got a big swinging appendage running down off your front it's either a rotor trunk or rotor dick and we're talking why he never made it to Cybertron.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008





Fun Shoe

Captain Magic posted:

I thought that too but then, Megatron is pistol dick

I'm not seein a lie here

Y'know though, there's a little of Phantom Apache in my perennial favorite Skyhammer. Mainly that he's a blue attack helicopter with He-Man Straps on his chest.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

Someone call the Chancellery Guard. Commander Maxil's out of uniform. AGAIN.

Skyhammer is everyone's perennial favorite. The best toy to come out of DOTM's original line easily.

DisposableHero
Feb 25, 2005
bah weep granna weep ninny bong

Droyer posted:

That's uh, that's not where the dick goes my dude.

More of an outie bellybutton rotor situation

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001



Taco Defender

Droyer posted:

So I'm researching Diaclone and with the exception of a couple of retools every single robot toy after they started using realistic vehicles became a Transformer.

Except the guy on the right in this pic.



And I can't help but wonder why they excluded him specifically.
There were also a handful of Microman figures who didn't make the cut for whatever reason. A binoculars guy who looks pretty lovely so I don't blame them for not including him.


But then there's Megatron's lost brothers. Frankly they look like better figures than Megatron and I'm surprised they never got used. I'd say they maybe didn't want to complete with Megatron being the only gun and thus kind of special from the other Decepticons, but then Shockwave ruins that.


Source, for anyone interested: https://micromanclub.tumblr.com/pos...secretfilepart4

Burkion
May 10, 2012

Changeman! And Not A Moment Too Soon!


So, someone went into this before. It's likely that the toy that got turned into Megatron the way he did (And he was the only realistic firearm, Shockwave was a laser gun) because of all his extra bits and bobs. It made him feel more special and more valuable. The others were all fairly self contained, though they were superior action figures.

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012



Knormal posted:

There were also a handful of Microman figures who didn't make the cut for whatever reason. A binoculars guy who looks pretty lovely so I don't blame them for not including him.


But then there's Megatron's lost brothers. Frankly they look like better figures than Megatron and I'm surprised they never got used. I'd say they maybe didn't want to complete with Megatron being the only gun and thus kind of special from the other Decepticons, but then Shockwave ruins that.


Source, for anyone interested: https://micromanclub.tumblr.com/pos...secretfilepart4

loving the hammer pants on binocular guy here.

Phy
Jun 27, 2008





Fun Shoe

Knormal posted:

There were also a handful of Microman figures who didn't make the cut for whatever reason. A binoculars guy who looks pretty lovely so I don't blame them for not including him.


But then there's Megatron's lost brothers. Frankly they look like better figures than Megatron and I'm surprised they never got used. I'd say they maybe didn't want to complete with Megatron being the only gun and thus kind of special from the other Decepticons, but then Shockwave ruins that.


Source, for anyone interested: https://micromanclub.tumblr.com/pos...secretfilepart4

Browning did get used, though Japan-only (as were the Diaclone Trainbots). It's only the .44 Magnum that got missed.

Prophet of Nixon
May 7, 2007

Thou art not a crook!


Are those ancient Bakugan on the right?

Captain Magic
Apr 3, 2005

Yes, we have feathers--but the muscles of men.

I have no good reason or place for it, but I kind of want to pull the trigger on Studio Series Shockwave. Anybody have any thoughts on him?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

Those orb bots are way cooler than the cassette bots

Prophet of Nixon
May 7, 2007

Thou art not a crook!


Captain Magic posted:

I have no good reason or place for it, but I kind of want to pull the trigger on Studio Series Shockwave. Anybody have any thoughts on him?

Movie Shockwave is my favorite one and I almost got him, but didn't since I didn't want to put away my Streetside Shockwave and I also don't really need 2 of them out. He looks really nice though.

DoctorWhat
Nov 18, 2011

Someone call the Chancellery Guard. Commander Maxil's out of uniform. AGAIN.

Captain Magic posted:

I have no good reason or place for it, but I kind of want to pull the trigger on Studio Series Shockwave. Anybody have any thoughts on him?

He's gorgeously painted and looks imposing as hell, with solid posability. On the other hand, his tank mode is so uninvolved that he's basically an Action Master.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"

Burkion posted:

So, someone went into this before. It's likely that the toy that got turned into Megatron the way he did (And he was the only realistic firearm, Shockwave was a laser gun) because of all his extra bits and bobs. It made him feel more special and more valuable. The others were all fairly self contained, though they were superior action figures.

Americans wouldn’t be able to handle guns that look that realistic, even in the 80’s. Metal parts and heavy plastics is a bit much.

DJ Fuckboy Supreme
Feb 10, 2011

And when you stare long into the abyss, you become aggressively, terminally chill



Why hasn't a wheelgun megatron been made since the diaclone days

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

STOP BEING EVIL.


It's really sad, because the basic premise is that the proliferation of firearms in the US has gotten so bad that it's realistically possible for a child to just have a real gun and be a threat. And US police forces at the very least use the proliferation of firearms as an excuse to amp up their own lethality, although there is also a whole thing where police forces have been massively unaccountable for their actions and encouraged by vendors, inspirational speakers, hate groups, politicians, lobbyists, and people in other positions of power within the established order to maintain their unaccountability and act as murderous thugs.

It's real bad. There are no signs of it getting better. Sorry Prowl, acab. That's the world that we've built. It's too dangerous to let a child go pew pew with their toys.

Knormal
Nov 11, 2001



Taco Defender

Burkion posted:

So, someone went into this before. It's likely that the toy that got turned into Megatron the way he did (And he was the only realistic firearm, Shockwave was a laser gun) because of all his extra bits and bobs. It made him feel more special and more valuable. The others were all fairly self contained, though they were superior action figures.
Yeah that makes sense, it makes him compete with all of Optimus' accessories a bit better.

Phy posted:

Browning did get used, though Japan-only (as were the Diaclone Trainbots). It's only the .44 Magnum that got missed.
Oh that's right, I forgot about that. And actually he looks a lot worse in that photo on TFWiki than in the official photoshoot, so I guess we didn't miss much.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."


SlothfulCobra posted:

It's real bad. There are no signs of it getting better. Sorry Prowl, acab. That's the world that we've built. It's too dangerous to let a child go pew pew with their toys.

Because the police will also come and kill your children for playing with toy guns too, such as in the case of Tamir Rice.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady


DoctorWhat posted:

Skyhammer is everyone's perennial favorite. The best toy to come out of DOTM's original line easily.
That's a really weird spelling of "Lugnut" you've got there.

The_Doctor posted:

Because the police will also come and kill your children for playing with toy guns too, such as in the case of Tamir Rice.
My "favourite" is when someone was killed for holding a phone a gun manufacturer went and designed a derringer that folds up into the shape of a smartphone so the cops were retroactively "justified" for doing it

Other
Jul 10, 2007

Post it easy!


Droyer posted:

So I'm researching Diaclone and with the exception of a couple of retools every single robot toy after they started using realistic vehicles became a Transformer.

Except the guy on the right in this pic.



And I can't help but wonder why they excluded him specifically.

probably because his alt mode goes from flying vehicle to different flying vehicle, all the other triple changers have alt-modes that let them go from land/sea to air or vice versa. in comparison this guy doesn't change up his style enough, it's not as exciting

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Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

Your friendly neighborhood bop



Just realized that OG Megs turns into a P38, the same gun Lupin uses. Now I want a crossover where he steals som mcguffin from the Decepticons to help the Autobots.

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