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Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Another plus is that neither of these shows features Yvonne Strahovsky portraying a cardboard cutout of herself.

Speaking of, just watched the episode that she shows back up in.

The hell man


I don't like the whole 'spiritual father' BS that Dexter has going on with the kid.

I LOVE the neighbor that the nanny girl set him up with. Cassie or whatever. It's too bad Dexter can't stop being a loving weirdo. It's like there's times where he can BS being normal and have normal conversations but then randomly he'll be like he is with her, the most awkward person on the planet.

Joey Freshwater fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Oct 3, 2014

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Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
Oh my god it just dawned on me who Deb's boss is.


Didn't recognize him without the Irish accent (and he's also like 40lbs heavier)



Edit: God dammit the Cassie thing didn't last long. This show sucks.


Edit2: The back and forth between Quinn and Deb is loving annoying.

Joey Freshwater fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Oct 3, 2014

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

MindlessHavok posted:

Oh my god it just dawned on me who Deb's boss is.


Didn't recognize him without the Irish accent (and he's also like 40lbs heavier)



Edit: God dammit the Cassie thing didn't last long. This show sucks.


Edit2: The back and forth between Quinn and Deb is loving annoying.

Will you please fill in for/replace Dirk? :allears:

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

MindlessHavok posted:

So far Seasons 4 and 6 have been the best for me.

Dude, season 6 is absolute garbage. The way Colin Hanks switches from troubled soul to fundamentalist supervillain was so jarring.

Tea Bone
Feb 18, 2011

I'm going for gasps.

massive spider posted:

I've been watching The Shield recently because I'm 10 years behind and that strikes me as another show that does what Dexter does better than Dexter. The whole double dealing, doing sort of sinister poo poo while scrambling to make sure nobody finds out plots.

Part of whats great about it is Aceveda and the other characters sort-of realising Mackey is dirty but having to deal with it anyway. Really Quinn or someone else should have found out about Dexter in season 5, because it gets boring when no one does. The last ep of season 5 is pretty good where all the characters are on each others tail, each not having all the pieces of the puzzle, but then he and deb immediately forget everything by the opening of 6.

I actually finished The Shield the same day I finished Dexter. Yep. Hell of a contrast.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

Mr Interweb posted:

Dude, season 6 is absolute garbage. The way Colin Hanks switches from troubled soul to fundamentalist supervillain was so jarring.

It's almost like opinions are subjective. I saw the twist coming from a mile off but still enjoyed it. I didn't like the stuff with Hannah but did like Colin Hank's stuff.


I'm on the final episode. I just don't even care about this show anymore. I'm only watching it just to finish it.

Just getting through the scene in the hospital where they arrest Oliver. His wide eyed crazy face look cracks me up every time.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

MindlessHavok posted:


I'm on the final episode.

Oh you're in for a treat.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
Hahahahahahhahahahahaha

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!

MindlessHavok posted:

Hahahahahahhahahahahaha

Well.... what did you think?

Hipster_Doofus
Dec 20, 2003

Lovin' every minute of it.

CaptainHollywood posted:

Well.... what did you think?

Seems pretty clear.


Thread title suggestion for the next Dexter thread (if there is one): Dexter: It was a Sitcom All Along

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer
I'm still processing.


So he somehow gets her body out of the hospital after "pulling the plug" and just dumps her in the ocean? It's not even like her body sunk. She'll eventually wash up on shore. And how did not one person no ask him what he was doing? I get that there was a lot going on but SOMEone would have said something. Especially after the alarms go nuts because she flatlined, which happened after he disconnected everything from her.

When he was pulling away from the hospital all I could think was "that's a no wake zone, rear end in a top hat" in between laughing.

And of course he survived. His rationale that he has to keep Harrison and Hannah safe from him by "killing" himself was stupid. Good job leaving your kid with someone he barely knows who's also a loving nut job and may not even want to take care of him. And then he just goes on to become a logger. Okay.

There were so many little changes that they could have made that would have made it so much better. Did the writers change after season 4 or something?

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!

MindlessHavok posted:

There were so many little changes that they could have made that would have made it so much better. Did the writers change after season 4 or something?

Sort of. Starting in season 4 they really made Dexter "the hero" of the story- forgetting the fact that he's a serial killer. Dexter was a character destined to die/get caught from the first episode.

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

CaptainHollywood posted:

Sort of. Starting in season 4 they really made Dexter "the hero" of the story- forgetting the fact that he's a serial killer. Dexter was a character destined to die/get caught from the first episode.

Yeah, in the same way Walter was in Breaking Bad. I ended up hating everyone except Jessie by the end of the show but I still thought it was great.

I disliked most everyone at the end of Dexter too but a lot of the show was garbage.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

MindlessHavok posted:

Yeah, in the same way Walter was in Breaking Bad. I ended up hating everyone except Jessie by the end of the show but I still thought it was great.


Even Hank?

Joey Freshwater
Jun 20, 2004

Always playing with my meat
Grimey Drawer

bobkatt013 posted:

Even Hank?

I never really liked him in the first place but I can see how people would. Maybe it was the actor that played him or something but he never really took with me.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
Hank was not supposed to be someone you could sympathise or like until season 3 (or midway season 2, but beating up Jesse, albeit for the right reasons from his perspective, couldn't help).

For Dexter, a similar character (for me) was Deb. She became a "good" character that I could like somewhere in season 4, then I couldn't care less for 5 and 6, and then again likeable in season 7 (for the most part). Season 8 started with a seemingly great place for her character... which got completely reversed and ruined one or two episodes later and by the end of the series her character was just another empty can on a huge pile of junk.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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You wouldn't ask a character to become a can.

Parity warning
Nov 1, 2009



3rd Place, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
Louis getting unceremoniously murdered by complete strangers as a consequence of his poorly timed impotent nerd revenge is probably my favorite moment of the entire series

notthegoatseguy
Sep 6, 2005

Parity warning posted:

Louis getting unceremoniously murdered by complete strangers as a consequence of his poorly timed impotent nerd revenge is probably my favorite moment of the entire series

It is like the writers were like "oh poo poo, we have an almost interesting sub-plot. Better destroy it with another sub-plot!"

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

CaptainHollywood posted:

Sort of. Starting in season 4 they really made Dexter "the hero" of the story- forgetting the fact that he's a serial killer. Dexter was a character destined to die/get caught from the first episode.

That was a problem, but they actually did change writers at the end of season 4. Clyde Phillips was the showrunner and left after season 4. Here was his idea about how to end the series:

http://www.eonline.com/news/461558/chills-former-dexter-producer-clyde-phillips-reveals-how-he-planned-to-end-the-series

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

joepinetree posted:

That was a problem, but they actually did change writers at the end of season 4. Clyde Phillips was the showrunner and left after season 4. Here was his idea about how to end the series:

http://www.eonline.com/news/461558/chills-former-dexter-producer-clyde-phillips-reveals-how-he-planned-to-end-the-series

Yeah, that would have be much, much better. It's a bit hacky, but I could see it being a really good ending.

Factory Davey
Jan 9, 2010

I am aware of what the hands look like. I did my best. :(
That would only work for me if they made it really campy. Like, have Dex go out with a smile, with the "ding" from the intro play as he closes his eyes. I dont see that scene playing off well dramatically.

CaptainHollywood
Feb 29, 2008


I am an awesome guy and I love to make out during shitty Hollywood horror movies. I am a trendwhore!
I hate when people use the term "literally" wrong - but literally anything would be better than what happened.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help

joepinetree posted:

That was a problem, but they actually did change writers at the end of season 4. Clyde Phillips was the showrunner and left after season 4. Here was his idea about how to end the series:

http://www.eonline.com/news/461558/chills-former-dexter-producer-clyde-phillips-reveals-how-he-planned-to-end-the-series

Didn't he also say that he would have kept what had happened in the previous (including the last seasons) ? I think I remember something along those lines.

It sounds good as an idea, mainly the last moments on the lethal injection table conclusion - the people/victims reunion watching wouldn't have worked for me.. But keeping the last season the same, and changing the last scene, would only serve as having a mint after eating a rotten donkey corpse.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Michael C Hall update: http://popwatch.ew.com/2014/10/06/michael-c-hall-hedwig/

TMMadman
Sep 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
In an interesting twist, C.S Lee (Masuka) played a serial killer in an episode of Criminal Minds.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

TMMadman posted:

In an interesting twist, C.S Lee (Masuka) played a serial killer in an episode of Criminal Minds.
Ahahahahaha no loving way. I didn't believe you, but I DVRed it and I'm watching the episode now :stare: It's true...

Lipset and Rock On
Jan 18, 2009

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Ahahahahaha no loving way. I didn't believe you, but I DVRed it and I'm watching the episode now :stare: It's true...

Does his character try and get off the crime by explaining it away as a sex act gone wrong?

Please advise.

Rageaholic
May 31, 2005

Old Town Road to EGOT

Lipset and Rock On posted:

Does his character try and get off the crime by explaining it away as a sex act gone wrong?

Please advise.
Not so far, although he is trying to recreate the various circles of hell which seems like something Travis Marshall and Professor Gellar would do.

User-Friendly
Apr 27, 2008

Is There a God? (Pt. 9)

Rageaholic Monkey posted:

Not so far, although he is trying to recreate the various circles of hell which seems like something Travis Marshall and Professor Gellar would do.

Somewhere in season 2 of the show, there's a two-part episode where the religiously-motivated murders they thought were committed by a pair (one driven, one weak-willed and protesting) turned out to be one guy who had a psychotic break after his mentor's death.

Something like five years before Dexter did it, and they couldn't even drag the twist out for the first hour.

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.
So that was Dexter. I don't know if I want to write netflix a bill for my time or not.

Steinuh
Nov 17, 2011

Have any of the actors talked about season 8 and how abysmal it was? All I remember from the season was Deb being sad, the use of "psychopath" per min was like 20, Harrison getting injured on the treadmill of death, and then the awful ending.

incredible bear
Jul 10, 2005

doing the bear maximum
I think overall this is the worst thing about Dexter and why we'll struggle to ever forget it. Or perhaps it's just personally me, but I need Michael C Hall to just come out in an interview "Dexter was loving poo poo and we're all sorry." But he won't because he needs to get paid and the torment will continue forever. There have been moments in interviews where it's sort of transparent that the actors know the show took a mis-step, but there's been no out-and-out admission.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

No offense to him, but I'm so over and done with this loving show that I don't even give a poo poo if Dirk finishes. We all understand, man.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

incredible bear posted:

I think overall this is the worst thing about Dexter and why we'll struggle to ever forget it. Or perhaps it's just personally me, but I need Michael C Hall to just come out in an interview "Dexter was loving poo poo and we're all sorry." But he won't because he needs to get paid and the torment will continue forever. There have been moments in interviews where it's sort of transparent that the actors know the show took a mis-step, but there's been no out-and-out admission.

Actually, MCH did come out recently to say that he hated the final season. So there's that, at least.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

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Mr Interweb posted:

Actually, MCH did come out recently to say that he hated the final season. So there's that, at least.

I need a source for this.

We all do.

Junkfist
Oct 7, 2004

FRIEND?
Sometimes I'm just enjoying life and all it has to offer and then something somehow reminds me of Dexter.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Junkfist posted:

Sometimes I'm just enjoying life and all it has to offer and then something somehow reminds me of Dexter.

Dexter is a great show. In the great Television Balance, Dexter took all the poo poo so Breaking Bad's final season could be perfect.

I still loving laugh at the memory that they were airing AT THE SAME TIME. Watching them back to back was an experience I don't think I'll ever feel again.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
There was this interview, which is about as close as you're likely to get to having someone in Hollywood poo poo on a recent project of theirs.

Michael C. Hall posted:

"You know, Dexter morphed. It was a many-headed creative monster, and certain heads were lopped off halfway through the life of the show. It was difficult to maintain a cohesive narrative in many ways, but primarily, in terms of the conception of the character, once he started to move into murkier, blurrier, more human territory, it became a very difficult thing to wrap my head around. But in the end, I think Dexter was always a pragmatist and, well, self-centered. I think it was his version of selflessness upon recognition that anyone close to him was going to be destroyed if he continued to indulge in intimate relationships. You know, his dad died, Rita died -- well, once he decided that, he faked his death and erased himself, but he didn't want to die. I honestly find it to be a pretty dark ending, and I think it upset a lot of people. Certainly, the shakiness of certain aspects of the eighth season maybe made that ending less palatable to people. I don't think people were ready to be told that, because they were already feeling a sense of ambivalence for the show. But the idea that he imprisons himself in a prison of his own making I think is fitting [for the character]."

“It's tricky. Sometimes I wish he'd offed himself, wish he'd died, wish Deb had shot him in that train compartment -- of course, that would have made an eighth season difficult to do."

I don't think he's wrong about it. It's not necessarily a bad idea on the face of it, and there's probably a good way to do it, but that final season (and the two seasons before it) was such a turd that nothing short of Dexter getting murdered by Ghost Doakes could have redeemed it.

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I guess I just want to hear, from anyone responsible for the show, to say "sorry for making it so boring".

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