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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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After nearly 3 years I finally had the first issue with my '16 FoST over the weekend. After a day around town I get back in my car and hit the push to start and the display and gauges started going haywire. About 3-4 different warning or error messages flash up, then everything went dead. I was pretty confused that my battery just randomly decided to die, then I opened the hood and it made sense:     Sucker must have been leaking for a while, and the stupid negative terminal on the battery is tucked under the cowling so far that even if I removed the battery cover to check on it regularly I wouldn't have spotted it.
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Jan 14, 2019 18:13
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Read the fine print on the loan terms, shouldn't even need to mention poo poo to the dealer.
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Jan 14, 2019 19:15
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Test drove this car: https://www.deltoyota.com/used/Volkswagen/2018-Volkswagen-Golf+R-thorndale-pa-ff40f5710a0e0a6b6190c45d1c6bb259.htm I got to listen to the salesman talk about his old Golf R that happened to be FWD, and that had DCC suspension, but didn't have Race mode like the one I was driving.  Red flag was the shifter: it had an aftermarket shiftknob and the throws felt short and notchy. I'm not sure what a Golf R shifter is supposed to feel like, but this one felt notchy and as short/maybe even shorter than my old Cayman. I tried to see if the way my old APR tuned GTI switched tunes worked, but the R has different stalks. How do you change the tune on a Golf R? In any case, the car drove awesome, and I'm seriously considering getting one. They were sticking to 36k for now, even after I showed them a new Golf R selling for 36k in Virginia, and some used ones selling for low 30s. Am I off thinking low 30s is reasonable? I'm willing to wait.
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Jan 15, 2019 03:15
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Pussy Quipped posted:... I kinda want to see a fist in this shade of teal.
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Jan 15, 2019 03:22
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Suburban Dad posted:Read the fine print on the loan terms, shouldn't even need to mention poo poo to the dealer. Yeah, just read the docs. I think early payment penalties are actually illegal in a lot of states now.
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Jan 15, 2019 03:23
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IOwnCalculus posted:Yeah, just read the docs. I think early payment penalties are actually illegal in a lot of states now. I'd be curious to know if that includes the scam where the interest is pre-computed for the term of the loan and you owe the full interest amount regardless of how quickly you pay it back.
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Jan 15, 2019 03:29
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Residency Evil posted:Test drove this car: https://www.deltoyota.com/used/Volkswagen/2018-Volkswagen-Golf+R-thorndale-pa-ff40f5710a0e0a6b6190c45d1c6bb259.htm For the GTI at least, it feels smooth, no feedback. Made for the average driver. quote:I tried to see if the way my old APR tuned GTI switched tunes worked, but the R has different stalks. How do you change the tune on a Golf R?
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Jan 15, 2019 15:12
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One would think making sure the car hadn't been modified in a way that would void the warranty would be a part of the "certification" involved in "certified pre-owned" but that would just make too much sense, wouldn't it?
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Jan 15, 2019 15:18
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PT6A posted:One would think making sure the car hadn't been modified in a way that would void the warranty would be a part of the "certification" involved in "certified pre-owned" but that would just make too much sense, wouldn't it? No because modifications don't "void the warranty"
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Jan 15, 2019 15:19
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Also, CPO is largely bullshit.
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Jan 15, 2019 15:34
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Etrips posted:For the GTI at least, it feels smooth, no feedback. Made for the average driver.
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Jan 15, 2019 15:56
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Etrips posted:For the GTI at least, it feels smooth, no feedback. Made for the average driver. This one's at a Toyota dealer unfortunately. What price would you guys offer? 36k seems high for a used car with 8k miles, especially since there are leftover 2018 Golf Rs on the lot for 36-37k. BlackMK4 posted:Additionally, I don't remember it feeling notchy at all, like you said, smooth and little to no feedback. There was this weird magnetic like pull as you slid through the gates though. Good to know. I remember my Mk6 GTI shifter feeling super smooth, but this one was definitely significantly notchier and required more deliberate movements. Maybe I just got spoiled by my Cayman?  edit: called APR. They've got no record of it. Not sure it's worth calling every other tuner, especially since something like a JB4 wouldn't show up. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jan 15, 2019 |
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Jan 15, 2019 16:12
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MarsellusWallace posted:I'd be curious to know if that includes the scam where the interest is pre-computed for the term of the loan and you owe the full interest amount regardless of how quickly you pay it back. pre-computed loans are rare (other than buy-here-pay-here), and in some states if you pre-pay a pre-computed loan, the lender is obligated to rebate you the unearned finance charges. thanks, CFPB!
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Jan 15, 2019 16:16
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Residency Evil posted:This one's at a Toyota dealer unfortunately. To be honest, unless you can get the car to a VW dealership to get it hooked up to see it has been tuned OR to get in contact with every tuner to see if it has been tuned, I would steer away from it. There will be an obviously black rectangular box usually nestled somewhere around the battery box if it has a JB4 still on it. Though if the PO sold it, they should have just taken it off to resell.
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Jan 15, 2019 16:51
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Sounds too shady and therefore too expensive to me. Find another one.
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Jan 15, 2019 18:19
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Residency Evil posted:What price would you guys offer? 36k seems high for a used car with 8k miles, especially since there are leftover 2018 Golf Rs on the lot for 36-37k.
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Jan 15, 2019 18:28
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Residency Evil posted:Test drove this car: https://www.deltoyota.com/used/Volkswagen/2018-Volkswagen-Golf+R-thorndale-pa-ff40f5710a0e0a6b6190c45d1c6bb259.htm How are new R's going for under 40k? You're out the door at 43k minimum in WA state after fees it looks like, and a used 2017 would be 37k easy. I also can't for the life of me find a 2016+ Golf R with DCC anywhere in the country according to places like cars.com / autotrader. How is this car so loving rare?
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Jan 16, 2019 19:38
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BlackMK4 posted:I'd buy a new car if you're dealing with a difference of a grand or less after negotiation Yeah, this. There's a '17 with with 8k miles up in Greeley that they just dropped down to $32k that I might try to look at tomorrow. Gonna go look at that RS with the monster stripes on it too.
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Jan 17, 2019 06:11
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Nuts and Gum posted:How are new R's going for under 40k? You're out the door at 43k minimum in WA state after fees it looks like, and a used 2017 would be 37k easy. Take a look at cargurus/autotrader/cars.com. There are leftover 2018s going for 36-38k or so new, obviously without taxes/fees.
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Jan 17, 2019 15:34
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The VW dealer in Greeley wants to run a loving credit check for me to test drive their used Golf R. "Well, it's a pretty rare car and there are only about 7 in Colorado and we're trying to keep the miles down" 
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Jan 17, 2019 19:27
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LOL. You could go test drive an RS4 no problem, I bet.
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Jan 17, 2019 19:34
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fknlo posted:The VW dealer in Greeley wants to run a loving credit check for me to test drive their used Golf R. "Well, it's a pretty rare car and there are only about 7 in Colorado and we're trying to keep the miles down" Its so they can welcome you back from your test drive with an offer of 11% APR on a 72 month loan!
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Jan 17, 2019 20:56
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PaintVagrant posted:Its so they can welcome you back from your test drive with an offer of 11% APR on a 72 month loan! I would love the opportunity to laugh in their faces. The dealer didn't have the RS. It was now at one of their sister dealerships while still showing at theirs for the last week. I love it when a sales person gets all befuddled when you aren't interested in anything else and won't give them your number. I did get to drive a Golf R at Carmax. Faster GTI with no wheelspin describes it fairly well.
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Jan 17, 2019 23:11
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Residency Evil posted:Take a look at cargurus/autotrader/cars.com. There are leftover 2018s going for 36-38k or so new, obviously without taxes/fees. If you aren't in a rush, we really aren't that far from the MK8 Golf R announcement later this year
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Jan 18, 2019 18:21
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The Mk.8 is likely to be a more incremental improvement than Mk.6 to Mk.7 was, and I doubt we get the R until MY2022 since we don't get the lesser cars until 2021.
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Jan 18, 2019 18:43
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Uhhhh whats up with this poll do we want a new one or kill it or leave it alone it's just a poll or what?
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Jan 18, 2019 18:46
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poll: is the Elantra GT a hot hatchb
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Jan 18, 2019 18:46
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:poll: is the Elantra GT a hot hatchb Fixed
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Jan 18, 2019 18:47
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Update it. But leave out the Type R on purpose to annoy people.
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Jan 18, 2019 18:48
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No it's fixed now. But really you can nuke or change the votes, change the title, and have up to 8 options. Gimme a list.
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Jan 18, 2019 18:52
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Focus ST/RS Type R A45/GLA45 GTI/Golf R Veloster N WRX/STI Fiesta ST Something European, I guess. S4?
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Jan 18, 2019 18:59
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lmao get that merc off the list actually just get rid of the poll
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Jan 18, 2019 19:12
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How is the A45 not a hot hatch?
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Jan 18, 2019 19:48
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Man, there are some relatively cheap GLA45 AMG's out there.
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Jan 18, 2019 20:21
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fknlo posted:Man, there are some relatively cheap GLA45 AMG's out there. Have you driven one yet? The interior is hot garbage, and it drives like poo poo.
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Jan 18, 2019 20:24
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KillHour posted:How is the A45 not a hot hatch? ok my mind went to the GLA45 not the A45 but in any case scrap that poll
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Jan 18, 2019 20:41
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Have you driven one yet? I don't think I've seen one, let alone driven one! The interiors on the 2015's that are cheap have not held up well at all. The leather portion of the black steering wheel was brown on one of them.
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Jan 18, 2019 21:31
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Adiabatic posted:Fixed thank u
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Jan 19, 2019 14:07
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If you really want to turn the screws to a dealer tell them that your significant other will kill you if you spend more than XYZ dollars on the purchase, with that number being invoice - holdback but you'll finance with them. They'll give you a rotten finance deal which you can immediately pay off/refi. Dealer will lose out on their huge finance kickback and there is nothing they can do about it .
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Jan 19, 2019 17:15
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Shamino posted:If you really want to turn the screws to a dealer tell them that your significant other will kill you if you spend more than XYZ dollars on the purchase, with that number being invoice - holdback but you'll finance with them. They'll give you a rotten finance deal which you can immediately pay off/refi. Dealer will lose out on their huge finance kickback and there is nothing they can do about it . That's what I'm currently trying to do for a gently used golf r. I'm hoping that a manual German hatchback is tough to sell in the South.
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Jan 19, 2019 18:06
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