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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Hey anyone here have any experience with throwing a stiffer RMM into the Focus ST? Would be interested to hear how things went. I have the eFocus mount in there from the factory for the record.
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Aug 26, 2016 04:06
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Yeah, kinda looking for that sweet spot between "stiffer than eFocus mount" and "JBR 88 Durometer mount".
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Aug 26, 2016 13:21
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Yeah, hopefully arresting the engine movement will help out with the wheel hop on starts a little. I think in the video you're seeing the mount they had in the original '13s which was from the stock Focus and waaaayyyy too soft. Since '14 (around the middle of the production?) They've been putting in the stiffer mount from the electric Focus which is more around what they should have put into the car in the first place. I have the eFocus mount but still would like a little less movement and can deal with some low RPM vibes. Mountune looking like the best option right about now.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:22
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People say it can make the shifts feel more direct, but not the major reason people typically put one in the FoST.
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Aug 26, 2016 19:51
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I kinda thought about taking it out when I got the car but quickly got used to the way it feels so I decided not to bother. Still want to put an accelerator pedal spacer in, though.
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Aug 26, 2016 20:14
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Maaay be able to snag one on ebay or from someone on focusst.org or something...
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Aug 27, 2016 04:26
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IKillForPie posted:Just wondering if anyone can give me a hand/insight into some used winter tires I was looking at purchasing online. I have a 2014 FoST and I just want to check/confirm that these tires would fit on the car? (http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/calgary/studded-winter-tires-on-rims-215-55r16-97t/1187393469?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true) Ah hey I just went through this- check the spare in your trunk. If it's 17" instead of 16" then you have the new bigger front brakes they started putting on the FoSTs midway through the 2014 production and you should not buy a rim under 17".
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Aug 31, 2016 23:09
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Yeah I think 18" wheels are stock on the FoST- it's just that when yours was made governs the smallest size of wheel it will accept due to the bigger front calipers they introduced mid-2014 production year.
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Sep 1, 2016 14:41
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Yeah I'm sitting up in northern Illinois here (like basically in Wisconsin) and I'm not sure whether to get more "performance" oriented winter tires or if it doesn't make a difference. Either way need some since the car came with summer tires- not like I would want it any other way, though...
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Sep 1, 2016 20:11
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PaintVagrant posted:Installed my mountune quick shifter plate. Works great, total horseshit install. Awful. On the FoST I purposely went with the FSWERKS plate so I didn't have to take the shift weight off- there's a major PITA roll pin holding the thing on. Plate as installed does a 30% reduction in throw and feels great. Assume process is a bit different on the FiST.
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Sep 6, 2016 23:39
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Ahhh yessss finally my Mountune RMM is here! Hopefully I can throw it into the FoST over the weekend. Installation videos make it look pretty easy- any weird stuff I should watch out for?
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Sep 8, 2016 15:15
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veedubfreak posted:Hahahah, DRIFT MODE. The video is great; all the other Focuses..Focusii... Focii... pull around really gently and slowly and park and then this guy just flies around the corner and bounces off of the cliff wall. Great comedic timing. But ouch, that poor, poor RS...
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Sep 8, 2016 17:33
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the FoST is a total pain in the rear end to get on jackstands, holy poo poo. There's probably a good place on the subframe in the center of the car but drat if my jack could get in there with how low the car is... jacking up each side and then placing the jackstands one at a time feels kinda unsafe. Anyways got the car up on the stands and I got the exhaust support bracket that sits over the rear motor mount arm itself halfway detached but then couldn't get one of the nuts off of the back of the drat thing due to my box wrench being kinda... not long enough. I could get it to set on the nut but I couldn't actually get my hand in there in such a way that I could turn the drat thing with any kind of force. Sooo everything went back together, the car came down and I guess I need to expand my tool collection beyond "borderline cheap toy kit". Ugh.
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Sep 11, 2016 22:54
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The Locator posted:I drive mine up onto a couple of 2 x 10's that I have bolted together into a mini-ramp to raise the car about 4" so that I can get the jack under it and make it easier to put on jackstands, but still end up doing one side at a time. If I need to get it really high for some reason, I'll do it in a couple of steps, alternating sides to raise it. If I don't need to get the front wheels off (like for an oil-change) then I just use ramps. Hey so where do you place the stands/jack under the car? There seems to be a lot of conflicting information on this
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Sep 12, 2016 14:17
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The Locator posted:I'm not sure how to describe it to be honest. I put them just behind the front tires on a beam-end (where it connects to the uni-body or something) that seems to be quite solid. I'll try to remember next weekend to take a picture, since I'll be changing the oil then. Yeah I put them on the frame basically right behind the factory-approved pinch weld jack points. Like between the pinch weld and that crossmember. Would appreciate pics though
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Sep 13, 2016 00:06
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The Locator posted:I'm probably using terrible spots, but as promised.. pictures! I actually used the same jacking point (with mini ramps like yours I could actually get the larger jack under the car to hit it; good idea). The jack stands are almost in the same spot- like rotate them 90 degrees and move them just off of that black crossmember towards the pinch weld rail (but still like right next to the end of the crossmember). I'm also making some cribbing blocks out of 2x4s so I can just jack from the pinch weld with an adapter I made out of a hockey puck and set the wheels on the blocks. Still wish there was a way to get the whole front end up a once but whattya gonna do. Also hey we have the same color ST- I need to paint my calipers; looks nice.
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Sep 19, 2016 14:35
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Finally got the chance to install the new rear motor mount in my FoST- lots of seized bolts courtesy of Midwestern salty winter roads and the rear nut and bolt inbetween the dogbone thingy that holds the RMM to the engine and the RMM itself is total pain in the rear end to access. Would have been easier if I had ratcheting box wrenches. I chose the Mountune RMM; heard it had a significantly stiffer bushing than stock but not like tooth-rattlingly so. Pretty easy to notice the difference right away as I actually had the original garbo mount and not the electric Focus mount they started putting in later on in the '14 production.  look at this piece of poo poo that was cursing my engine; you can move the center piece there around with one finger- shameful Anyways the Mountune RMM gives you a little bit of this bassy rumble at low RPMs (especially with the AC on) but it's nowhere near annoying for me. I might think again if I was creeping through stop-and-go city traffic on a daily basis but it's really not that bad. Increases in vibration at higher RPMs are there, but are so subtle I probably won't really even notice it in a few days. Reductions in torque steer and wheel hop are the primary reason I installed this thing and that definitely happened but it also feels like the gear engagement when shifting is a little more direct as well. The Mountune was definitely what I was looking for in terms of balancing NVH increases with performance enhancement. A RMM should probably be one of the first things you do for your FoST, especially if you have the crappy original mount.
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Sep 26, 2016 04:46
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Hmm can't exactly say- it's definitely gonna be stiffer going by the fact that you don't get any vibes off of the eFocus mount. Depends what you're going for I guess- there are definitely stiffer mounts than the Mountune one out there for the ST but if you want minimal NVH increases then it's a good choice.
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Sep 26, 2016 12:42
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:I've been slowly making my way through this thread and I've been left feeling inadequate and poor, but I'd like to show off my car anyhow. I think it qualifies as a Hot Hatch. Ah nice! That is a super great deal- how many miles does it have on it? Any big maintenance work you need to do (timing belt, clutch pad, gaskets anywhere)? Any other plans for it?
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Sep 28, 2016 18:07
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I kind of want to put a catback on my FoST, but I also like the weird-looking stock hex exhaust tip on there right now...
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Oct 10, 2016 00:27
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Christobevii3 posted:Get a muffler shop to cut and reweld the tips back on? Hadn't considered that- have to keep that one in my back pocket. Cleaned all the exhaust soot off of the tips today and they're lookin' good again. Now to clean the brake dust off the rims... again. I'm plasti-dipping these drat things a darker gray when I take them off for the winter...
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Oct 10, 2016 06:15
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100% Dundee posted:Would plasti-dip be any better in regards to brake dust cleanup? Obviously if you go with a darker color you'll see it less, but how does that translate when it comes to cleaning it off? I don't think so. Yeah it would be strictly for allowing me to be lazier about brake dust cleanup.
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Oct 10, 2016 15:48
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General consensus is that the GTI interior is nicer and from pictures I'd tend to agree. Not like the FoST's is bad or anything but other than the Recaro seats, some different gauge cluster colors, a nicer wheel, and some additional gauges up on the dash (boost, oil temp and pressure) it's the interior from the regular Focus, an economy car. I personally have not noticed any weird squeaks in a 2014 ST2 with 25,000 miles on it. Interior quality wasn't that high on my list of priorities but coming from a base '07 Mitsubishi Eclipse I was dazzled by the wonderment of a modern not-totally-cheap-garbo interior so maybe I'm not the best judge.
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Oct 10, 2016 20:32
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Is the Mini still doing that weird "giant speedometer in the middle console" design? Otherwise I think they're pretty nice if you can deal with that.
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Oct 10, 2016 20:54
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Oh hey update on the Mountune RMM I threw into the FoST a while ago- it seems like it's kinda broken in and I now have trouble detecting any vibrations at all but at the lowest RPMs with the AC compressor running. Like I basically have to try to really induce any vibrations and I don't see them in normal driving. Either that or it's subtle enough that I've gotten used to it and don't notice it anymore. I came from the original horribly unsuitable stock Focus mount so this was a big change for me but it's still decently stiffer than the eFocus mount Ford started throwing into later model year '14 Focus STs and beyond. Anyways if you want an RMM stiffness upgrade that comes with an incredibly minimal/maybe eventually not even noticeable increase in NVH I think this is your mount.
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Oct 13, 2016 03:47
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I'm having trouble imagining the kind of person who would have that kind of money to throw away on such a ridiculous markup and also want the Focus RS instead of something more upscale
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Nov 21, 2016 13:55
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fknlo posted:Some guy with enough disposable income that is tired of buying M3's? I guess as long as one can find the RS at MSRP it doesn't really matter but this thought still kind of makes me sad
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Nov 21, 2016 16:34
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I mean when it comes down to it I guess it's still just a tarted-up economy car (albeit built on top of an excellent track machine) with the engine... from the Ecoboost Mustang right? Have a feeling there's a lot of cost created by limited production runs and the fact that it's "special". Wooo look at that body kit. Very interested to see what the used market on them looks like in 3 years... how much will a 3 year-old RS with 40k on the odometer run you?
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Nov 21, 2016 23:08
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Finally had to take the summer tires off of the FoST last week (constant 60 degree F highs in November are not normal)- different car so I really can't tell exactly how much the car itself is influencing this but the Sottozero 3 XLs on actual alloy rims are just a world away from the Firestone Winterforce tires on steelies I had on my last car on dry pavement. Good tires are worth every penny.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:05
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Jeez, hope the FoST I bought 8 months ago doesn't crater out too bad. Got a '14 ST2 package sitting at 19k miles for 20k after taxes and title stuff from a dealer up in Detroit Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Dec 15, 2016 |
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Dec 15, 2016 21:57
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powderific posted:Gotcha. Yeah I put one in that brings it about to the same elevation as the brake pedal- I've been sorta just putting the left side of the ball of my foot on the brake and using the right side to hit the gas. Feel like heel-toeing is easier for me with cars where the gas pedal has a hinge on the floor rather than a pedal that drops down from the top of the footwell like the FoST. Extended pedal cover might make it easier for me Monkey Fracas fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Dec 16, 2016 |
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Dec 16, 2016 03:27
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The stock position might be good for track driving (I have no idea) but for daily blippin' it's way too recessed. Is the stock position supposed to be more ergonomic for non-heel-toe driving or something? I found lifting off of the gas to hit the brake slower and less comfortable with the pedal all the way back in the footwell like that. So yeah fix that and if you have a '13 or an earlier production '14 FoST replace that drat lovely rear motor mount one way or another (install an aftermarket one yourself or contact a dealer and have them pull the TSB; one the dealer will install is the RMM from the electric Focus which you can get your hands on for like 60 if you just want to do it yourself). Then I feel like the car is set up as it should have been in the first place- I also threw in a short shift plate almost immediately but that's a personal preference thing. Don't know exactly what my plans are in the future (I'm a little hesitant to start loving around with ECU cals on my daily driver that I expect to last for years) but those first two things I would recommend to almost anyone driving the FoST.
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Dec 19, 2016 18:21
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Going to find some way to bypass/lock open the butterfly valve that controls the sound symposer thingy in my FoST and will report back here about how badass/annoying it is. Conveniently the valve/solenoid case is right next to the battery so it's easy to get to and mess around with. Goal is to have the Active Sound Symposer (A.S.S.) active all the time and not just during high RPMs/whenever the ECU decides to open it- easy to reverse if I hate it.
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Dec 28, 2016 20:24
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Uhhhh so OK Sound Symposer open all the time on the FoST was cute for a bit but ultimately sounds hosed-up and weird. Think I need an open-end air filter or a catback or something
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Jan 3, 2017 16:26
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fknlo posted:Correct. He got a ticket, I didn't. I'm getting a reduced rental rate through my insurance company, his should cover it. Pretty sure I'm on my own if it's not totaled and I have to come back out to get it. Which means it won't be totaled. My rental is a Dodge dart. Kill me now. talk about twisting the knife Hope things work out better than they seem right now.
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Jan 5, 2017 23:26
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Yeah I keep going back and forth on ECU modding before my drivetrain warranty is up and it doesn't make sense for me. Ford-Approved stuff might be alright; have to check on cost. I think the next thing I'm doing is putting a catback system on regardless- FoST is waaaay to quiet
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Jan 23, 2017 19:43
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wolrah posted:Mountune's MP275 is basically the warranty-safe version of their B2 package. Same hardware, more conservative tune and a locked down AccessPort that won't accept custom tunes. Ahhhhh was not aware of the half-warranty thing. Welp already past that so it's a useless option for me anyways. '14 model year with 30k on the odometer.
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Jan 23, 2017 21:15
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wolrah posted:I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, not a lawyer and I can see how it could be interpreted either way, but I think its generally good advice to interpret warranties pessimistically because the entire thing is basically legalese to be used against you in the event of an expensive problem. Yeah, just gotta kind of assume you're gonna get screwed on that one. On the other hand looking at the Blown Motor thread on another site for FoSTs a lot of people wind up getting their exploded motor warrantied out even after they've modded the car and tuned the ECU by returning the parts to stock and flashing the ECU back to stock as well. However if they want to dig enough they can tell if you've ever messed around with the ECU and deny your claim. Luck of the draw. So basically I feel like you should be ready to pay for a new motor even if you're under warranty if you so much as touch the ECU.
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Jan 25, 2017 15:56
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fyodor posted:lol 450+ whp on fwd. If owning a fwd hot hatch has taught me anything it's that my tires are constantly telling me "I don't like doing this but I will do it. I am doing this under protest!" Feels like the FoST stock makes about as much power as is practical for a FWD platform. More would be fun but probably not make any drat sense Replaced the horrible stock rear motor mount and that helped the torque steer/wheel hop The stock Goodyears were also a little close to the wear bar when I got it and I still haven't replaced them though so maybe that'll help too
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Feb 10, 2017 14:05
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The GTI is probably going to be a nice place to sit whoever ya are but I would go drive a Fiesta ST to see how you personally feel about driving something that small. If you really don't have an issue with it and aren't a highway warrior I would go with the Fiesta. But yeah if you buy it new the FiST is probably gonna lose more value than a GTI so that's another thing to consider
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Feb 20, 2017 14:39
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