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Skipping half the show actually improves it for me (I really don't care about the new kids or their awful, awful plots). Here are some more 501 spoilers from a reliable source. —There is a minor subplot with Tina being more bitter/lonely than usual. Blaine gets the guys together to sing I Saw Her Standing There to cheer her up and at the end they say she can pick one of them as her prom date. It’s also mentioned that Mike dumped her because she is [RETRACTION] “NOT ENOUGH Asian”. —Sue gets her job as principal by planting a ton of fetish porn on Figgins, getting him fired. She tells Will that if he does not win Nationals, she’ll fire him. —Tina confronts Artie about his secret relationship with Kitty and outs them to the choir room. By the end of it, Kitty and Artie decide to “go public”. —Blaine proposes on the stairs.  I for one am glad we're getting in at least one racist Tina/Mike/Asian joke, I was worried we'd have to go without.  Blaine proposing on the stairs where he and Kurt first met sounds really sweet.
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KilGrey posted:But yeah, Kurt was one of the most vocal about how ridiculous it was. They had a whole episode dedicated to getting them to reconsider with both sets of parents. He was, but he also shut up awfully fast when Rachel asked him what he'd do if Blaine proposed that day (and the cut Kurt/Blaine scene from the third season Christmas episode has Kurt unequivocally saying 'yes' to what he blithely assumes is Blaine offering him an engagement ring). I thought this episode was decent enough. It had a number of fun performances (I ended up enjoying "Got To Get You Into My Life" and "Help" the most, they had a ton of energy and they were just fun to watch), but "All You Need Is Love" is a close second. Mostly I agree with Spergatory's take on the episode, it was fun and gleeful and I'll always prefer that over dumb offensive PSA plots or pointless drama. I liked Blaine's proposal speech. It was really sweet and I think Darren nailed the delivery (and I've had issues with some of his acting choices in the past). The best scene of the episode was probably the Kurt and Burt talk in the car, the actors work really well together and the writing for it was pretty good. I kind of want to see Kurt's mother in a flashback some day 
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I agree, Xeria, I'm sitting here going, "okay, and where do they go from here?" What's left for her to work toward? Unless she gets fired or the play falls through or something, it feels like there's just no higher to go. This should have happened in season 6 at the earliest, not right now. Glee.  Not going to listen to the songs. I can't. It'll be hard enough watching the performances and hearing them in this week's episode.  Re: 502. I mostly enjoyed last week's episode, but I have to say the Lima parts were especially dragging. I felt irritated every time we went back there because it felt like all the fun and energy were in NYC, and Lima was just rehashing plots (Sam meets a new girl who is undoubtedly his fourteenth love of his life, oh look a mean Cheerio never had one of those before, "Prom Queen" redux except worse because Kurt at least got to make the decision to go back in himself, Tina getting poo poo on and probably other stuff I've already forgotten because it was just really, really dull and repetitive - I can't fault the actors even if I don't think they're anything special, but drat, the writing for the Lima side is atrocious). What was up with the digs at bisexuality, though? "I had a girlfriend, but she was bi." And that's bad? "I now have a girlfriend who won't stray for penis." Oh yes, because that's what bi people, bi women do. The moment they see a dick, they'll just dump you. Wonderful, Glee, just wonderful, especially since that didn't even loving happen, Brittany didn't cheat on Santana at all, let alone with a guy. Otherwise I thought Dani and Santana were pretty cute together and "Here Comes the Sun" was beautiful.
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I really liked 'Come What May' in s4 but admittedly I'm biased toward Kurt/Blaine stuff and I thought the performance was really lovely and done on one of the most beautiful sets Glee's ever had. I think that's the only s4 song that I bought - they stuff so many songs in episodes now that the quality's gone down and I wish they'd go back to making 3-4 songs work with the plot instead of writing a plot around anywhere from 6 to 8 songs. I don't think that'll happen anytime soon, though.
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Here are the episode descriptions for 504, 505 and 506: 504: Thursday, Nov. 7 at 9/8c: “A Katy or a Gaga” The members of New Directions tackle their assignments of getting out of their comfort zones and determining whether they’re more like “Katy” or “Gaga.” In New York, Kurt holds auditions for his new band and must decide if he’ll let in the overly bold performer StarChild (American Idol‘s Adam Lambert). Also, Jake gets closer to Bree (guest star Erinn Westbrook), as he and Marley grow apart. 505: Thursday, Nov. 14: “The End of Twerk” The glee club learns the dance of the hour: twerking. Meanwhile, Marley discovers Jake’s relationship with Bree and Rachel tries to convince Kurt they both should get tattoos. Oh Lord, twerking. Several months after it was A Thing, Glee does something with it. Gangnam Style all over again. I don't know why they keep bothering, it's getting a bit sad now. Also tattoos for Kurt and Rachel? I know Lea Michele has several ones, but it doesn't strike me as something either of those characters would do. 506: Thursday, Nov. 21: “Movin’ Out” The New Directions pay homage to Piano Man Billy Joel. As graduation approaches, the seniors make plans for their futures beyond the halls of McKinley. Oh hey, graduation is finally here. About drat time. What about Nationals, though? Is that happening anytime soon? And entirely unrelated to Glee plots, here is a picture of Chris in his Halloween costume. Those arms 
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xeria posted:I'm not saying it because "gently caress that Lima half!" though. I'm genuinely uninterested in any of the Lima-side characters (beyond like Kitty and Unique) but I also know I'm in the vast minority in that regard in this very thread, so it seems silly for me to post such on a week-to-week basis in the face of how many people really like Blaine and Sam. I'm not really interested in any of the new Lima characters, the only one I still even remotely care about is Blaine (without Sam, though, I don't find their friendship interesting, I don't think their chemistry is amazing enough to warrant all that screen time and duets, and at the end of the day, I just find Sam so boring. But I realize that's another minority opinion). quote:I also don't talk about the show because I hate it; I talk about it because I think it's interesting in the sense of how a show can fall so thoroughly off a cliff in terms of viewers/quality after 1-2 seasons, and what Murphy and crew could have done to salvage it. Yeah, exactly. I've been watching Glee since its early days and looking back and comparing seasons 1 and 2 to 3 and 4, it just blows my mind how drastically the quality dropped after season 2. I don't know how it happened (though I think they got a handful of new writers in season 3, most of which also didn't stick around after that season ended for some reason...), but it's interesting to speculate. At least to me. quote:Like I said, we know now that S6 will be the last, and I don't think it's completely out of bounds to wonder if this is when they'll pull the trigger and focus entirely on Rachel/Kurt/Santana(/Blaine/Sam) in NYC. And not as something they "should have done all along" -- I've been an advocate here and elsewhere that they should have focused entirely on McKinley and let graduated characters ride off into the sunset if they wanted the show to have any longevity to it. They should have just pulled the trigger at the end of season 3: either drop the then-graduates (Kurt and Rachel) entirely* and rotate in new high school characters and focus on those in Lima, or graduate Kurt/Rachel + a bunch of others (Sam, Tina, Blaine, etc.) and follow them to New York. Splitting the show has done it absolutely no favors. Plus, introducing five new characters to a show that already had an incredibly bloated cast, and then having those five new characters live in their own little world where they barely interacted with the characters we already knew and liked/loved/loved to hate wasn't the best choice either. quote:(And I don't think he's talentless, either -- American Horror Story is a pretty fun romp. I think his interest in something waxes and wanes wildly and shows where he can't just reboot every season and write a new story in a condensed 13 episodes tend to suffer in quality as a result.) I think Murphy is genuinely talented with a knack for good ideas, I just feel he doesn't have the stamina to see it through for longer than a year, maybe two. He gets bored and starts doing stupid stuff to keep things "fresh" and "interesting" and the people he works with it can't or won't reign him in and tell him to knock it off (or they all think what he's doing is brilliant, which is a fairy depressing idea). Plus, he's usually working on multiple projects at once (he was working on Glee, the New Normal and American Horror Story simultaneously last year) and the quality of everything suffers for it. He just needs to learn to let go and maybe hand his projects off when he loses interest. * Of course the problem is it would be really loving stupid to drop two of the most popular characters played by two of the most critically acclaimed actors on the show, so that was never a real option.
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Spergatory posted:Neither of them had any loving build-up whatsoever. Both characters literally went from 'I am unhappy with the state of my relationship' to 'time to gently caress a random!' in the span of a single episode (in Jake's case, it happened in the span of a jump cut). You're right that they aren't on the same level I guess because in retrospect, Blaine's cheating makes even less sense. This is a guy who touted the wonders of masturbation because he was worried about pushing sexual boundaries too hard and too fast with his boyfriend. I can't see where Blaine was coming from, because he wasn't coming from anywhere. He cheated because the script told him to. It was stupid, unnecessary, and pointless. Neither of them grew or changed or learned from it. They just broke up, stayed that way for a while, and then got engaged. And now they (and we) are just going to pretend it never happened. It came out of nowhere and to nowhere it has returned. I have never, ever bought the way they had Blaine cheat. I can picture Blaine cheating. I can also picture Kurt cheating. I mean, I don't think cheating is out of the question for anyone on this show, because it's tv and sadly pretty realistic, especially with long-distance relationships, no matter how strong they were before Kurt moved to New York. But I maintain that the way it happened was nothing but Ryan Murphy forcing some random drama where it completely didn't fit - there was setup for them splitting because long distance was too hard one episode prior - and to fit the episode's theme (everyone's breaking up!). The cynical part of me also wonders if they broke them up so viciously to keep them apart longer so they wouldn't have to deal with a canon gay couple (God knows they utterly didn't want to deal with Santana getting a new girlfriend that season, or Kurt and Adam's five minute whatever-the-gently caress-that-was. And Blaine got to crush on a straight guy, so whew, no actual queer representation to be found there either!). Just watched the episode and enjoyed it for the most part. Lima still bores me (boring actors playing boring characters getting plots we've seen at least twice before, exciting. Also Schuester is a horrible, horrible teacher and I can't even tell whether the writers are aware of this) but NYC with Dani and Starchild was pretty fun. I'd trade all of the new characters for those two and it makes me sad they both have limited shelf lives, they are good fits for the show and the ensemble on that side of the show is fitting together neatly. Baffling that Kurt, the brainchild of the band, doesn't get a single line on a massive group song. It's his band, why isn't he singing? Roar should have been exclusive to the New York side, the cuts between the two locations during that song were really weird and didn't fit together at all. No unifying theme to the performance, it just looked sloppy.
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Shirtless Chris Colfer  . Unique's "If I Were A Boy" was entirely fantastic. The rest of Lima was... there. I loved what they did with Rachel and her tattoo - a delicate touch for a show that's usually hamfisted about everything. Well done. I'm glad I can finally praise this show for something again. I also appreciate Kurt and Rachel both mentioning Kurt and Blaine actually talk to each other; next step, actually showing them talking to each other, because it's been a barren wasteland for those two since the engagement. Kurt's tattoo is entirely ridiculous, but hilarious. The tongue piercing will be gone by next week. Thanks, Glee, it took you years to finally objectify Chris the way you do every other male on the show (aside from Artie - I wonder why that is), but I appreciate it and won't be forgetting it anytime soon.
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BIG CITY LAWYER posted:I missed shirtless Kurt! I was baking and not watching the screen the whole time. Boooo! I wouldn't want you to be denied this momentous occasion, so have a gif. He's very definitely no longer the 12yo from season 1. xeria posted:Though really at this point, I'm half-expecting a Sam/Rachel 'endgame' out of this show somehow. I will be very, very surprised if this relationship doesn't end up happening at some point. Rachel does help Sam with a modeling gig when Sam and Blaine visit NYC, so maybe that's sowing the seeds?
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hangedman1984 posted:just posted on the Glee facebook page, I'm just gonna leave this right here: No, thanks. This episode was mostly pretty boring. Too much Sam (although the Sam/Rachel teasing was cute, I thought it was way too soon for anything like that; she just had Finn's name tattooed on her hip last week, let the whole Rachel/love interest thing rest for a while, Glee), too much newbie love drama I didn't care about. Points for giving Kurt and Blaine an actual conversation about things, haven't had one of those in a while. Also points for giving Becky a college storyline. Other than that, eh. The puppet stuff for next week looks like a lot more fun.
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BrianWilly posted:Yeah, I was really frustrated with Blaine's potential interests being sarcastically brushed off like that as if he's just being silly and fearful. What, was Kurt being silly and fearful when he went to work at Vogue.com? No, that was him being smart and looking to other options when NYADA rejected him, as well as exploring all his own interests. For Blaine to be pigeonholed as a NYADA student feels a little like constraining his character in the way it was before he was actually allowed to stretch his legs in season 4, on top of Kurt just kinda being dense. Sweet and loving, but dense. I thought it wasn't so much Blaine's interest in other careers being brushed off as it was Blaine simply being fearful of being rejected, and those other potential careers being used as excuses to not audition for NYADA (and maybe getting rejected). I read that whole scene as Kurt understanding that was what was going on and reacting accordingly - it wasn't about Blaine seriously considering wanting to be a doctor or teacher, it was about Blaine worrying he might not be good enough and having to deal with his dream being crushed. He's a performer and while he may love kids and playing Operation, he wants to make a career out of the performing arts. It was him getting cold feet. quote:Also, obligatorily, NYADA sucks. As with all things Glee, NYADA has the potential to be great, they're just not bothering with it.
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And here is a funny behind the scenes video for this week's episode (mildly spoilery URL, don't hover) featuring Chris, Darren, Adam Lambert and certain... special guests.
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Nov 25, 2013 20:20
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DapperDinosaur posted:I don't really understand the point of voting on songs they've already done. I don't want to see the newbies redoing songs the old cast did because I think the new cast just isn't going to be able to compete with the old versions. Um, didn't we just do Roar? And now we're potentially getting it again? Why? I don't really understand the point of this. I also don't want the newbies on most of these songs, they're iconic Glee songs for specific reasons and having them redone by the new ND would make them lose a lot of its impact (like for instance anyone who is not Kurt or Rachel (or both!) on Defying Gravity). courtney_beth posted:A few video performances have leaked for the next episode. I couldn't finish watching this. It's very Glee to be hobbling after cultural relevance several months after the fact. Please just stop. quote:http://fyeahgleeclub.tumblr.com/post/68310286120/into-the-groove and there's THE GROOVE with the NYC crew. So this is a fantasy performance? It was pretty fun and I love the colorful outfits. It sounds pretty good too, Chris and Adam Lambert's voices mesh together well.
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Nov 28, 2013 11:17
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Do you want to trade?  I don't think I'll ever be free as long as Chris is still doing his thing, but the last two episodes have just been really bad, with bonus seriously unlikeable Blaine in this week's episode. And none of Glee's Christmas episodes have been good, so I don't want or need another one next week.
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Yeah, but Rachel Berry is a much more interesting character than Blaine (as much as I love him, and I do) and Lea Michele a vastly better actress (as much as I love Darren, sorry man) - part of my problem is just that I thought Darren couldn't pull this off. (The acting was kind of awful throughout, though not just on his part, pretty much everyone felt off, even the always great Jane Lynch.) Anyway, can't speak for anyone else, but I was never a huge fan of season 1 either (all the baby related storylines were godfuckingawful indeed); for me Glee was at its best/most entertaining in season 2 (and even that season had some real duds in there). Season 1 Glee and current Glee are also so very different tonally (s1 was much darker and the show took itself much less seriously) that it's just kind of awkward to have an s1-esque episode now. Back in s1 you could have Will Schuester planting drugs in a kid's locker to blackmail him and laugh at that because that was the kind of show it was, but that storyline just wouldn't work in current Glee with what the show has become since then.
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A friend of mine is freaking out at me but I haven't had the chance to watch the episode yet (and her freaking out is making me wary) so tell me, Glee thread, does a drunk Kurt really hook up with a guy who ends up leaving him gagged and hogtied to the bed against his will while he robs Kurt (and Rachel/Santana by extension)? Because if so, I'll pass on this episode and I'll also have to go find a dog to pet.
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Well, uh, I found some more information about the scene that upset my friend (a transcript and some gifs) and I think I'll pass. Due to personal reasons, that's not the kind of thing I find particularly funny and even seeing the gifs made me feel vaguely sick, so this episode isn't for me.
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The Tina/Blaine stuff was also seriously awful, but what gets me about this stuff is that Kurt doesn't want to be tied up, but they do find him gagged and restrained (in his underwear, so the making out had progressed a bit to the point where clothes came off). The idea of him trying to fight this guy off, or being too drunk to put up a fight, is just really upsetting and awful to me. It's not so much the idea of this particular plot - getting robbed by a one-night stand happens, sadly - that makes me feel queasy, it's the consent issue. (And I know it's like an alternate universe episode, that it's meant not to be taken seriously and all that, but that doesn't change the way I physically feel when I think about it.) I'm sorry, I didn't mean to drag this thread down, I see people genuinely enjoyed it, and the rest of the episode sounds pretty fun. But the way that storyline ended for Kurt just leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.
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Welp, I've thought for a while the only way forward for Glee was to drop McKinley and focus solely on the NYC side, so I'm happy see that's the plan for the foreseeable future. Whether they'll stick with it is another thing entirely. I'm sorry for the actors who've found themselves out of a job (though it sounds like they might be asked back next year? Maybe for small spots here and there?) but I'm not sorry to see these repetitive characters and storylines go. The split location idea wasn't working and I'm pleased to have Blaine and Mercedes (undoubtedly her return was because of her DWTS win, so good on you, Amber) and Artie (?) in NYC. Maybe I can finally learn to tolerate Sam/Blam too, who knows.
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Spergatory posted:At this point, I am watching exclusively for Klaine and even that is more out of obligation and morbid curiosity than any genuine interest. Yeah, same. I just want to see them get married, even if I still think this whole engagement thing should not have happened when it did. Oh well. It's Glee. In addition to Klaine, I also want to see Rachel make it big and watch Santana figure out her future. Those four, they're what I'm still around for, even through godawful episodes like the Christmas one that aired before hiatus. Rumor Has It/Someone Like You is one of the best songs Glee has done. It's a reminder that this show can be good if it actually tries.
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Nobby posted:The plot leading up to Rumor Has It/Someone Like You, on the other hand, is evidence that if Glee actually tries it mostly churns out some pretty horrific stuff. Heh, yeah. I'm talking specifically about the mashup and the performance in the episode. The song is still in rotation on my playlist, I really love it.
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