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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Sancho posted:

I wonder how long it took them to think of that name.

Sensenbrenner sure loves his Uniting and Strengthening America bills. A USA Freedom Act to counter the USA Patriot Act would be nice for the history books though I guess.

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Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Tezzor posted:

Obama is claiming that he had No Idea that the NSA was spying on 35 allied world leaders. There are only three interpretations of this fact, none of them terribly nice. Option one is that Obama is lying. This option is worse than usual because it would demonstrate the sheer arrogance and stupidity of the administration to still keep lying after being humiliated by leaked documents calling them on it half a dozen times so far. Option two is that Obama really did not know, because he is incompetent. Option three is that Obama really did not know, because his knowledge and approval was deliberately suppressed by an NSA that largely considers him irrelevant or under control. The problem is that his failure to fire the head of the NSA for this major diplomatic scandal that he knew nothing about could be seen as evidence of any of the three options.

Plausible deniability is a thing. It is possible he had no idea and that the information gleaned from this particular source was amalgamated with other, less controversial sources in his briefings.

Do I think it's likely? Not really.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Kalman posted:

Sunstein also notes that that tactic would produce distrust and backfire. Or did you miss the "if the tactic becomes known, the conspiracy theory may become further entrenched, and any genuine member of the relevant groups who raises doubts may be suspected of government connections. And as we have emphasized throughout, in an open society it is difficult to conceal government conspiracies, even the sort of conspiratorial tactic we have suggested, whose aim is to undermine false and harmful conspiracy theorizing." paragraph?

It's an academic paper identifying approaches and citing the "do it anonymously" section as if it was a prescription without noting that it identifies it as having significant downsides and that it's presented as the alternative to doing it openly is dishonest.

It's not a new thing - I've called the reporting on this entire complex of issues frequently erroneous and/or dishonest from the beginning.

The NSA is doing many things that, now that they have been revealed, have produced distrust. That particular downside doesn't seem to be a sufficient deterrent for the intelligence community at the moment.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


You missed the best part.



What kind of nancy boy liberal actually thinks the Fourth Amendment should protect them? :clint:

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