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Amok
Oct 5, 2004
You can't spell failure without U R A

And Tyler Too! posted:

Zaws are straight up better than 95% of the melee weapons in the game.

Except for fashionframe, sadly.

Can't even use weapon skins on them, thanks to Quality Coding.

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S.J.
May 19, 2008

A storm is coming.


Zaws look stupid so I'll probably never use them

Gonkish
May 19, 2004



Alright, so I've been playing this for a bit now, and I'm incredibly confused. Every time I think I'm getting a handle on what to work towards... the game throws about a dozen new things in my face unceremoniously and I'm right back to being confused as gently caress again.

I chose Excalibur and I'm basically relying entirely on Exalted Blade to do anything, because once I get above 17 or so I find that all my normal weapons are absolute poo poo and do absolutely nothing to anything (even the max rank ones with mods that I've upgraded).

I don't know where I'm supposed to focus my time because there's so much poo poo being thrown at me from a thousand different angles and I have no clue what any of it is for. I just came across Cephalon Simaris and I didn't even know he existed until the Quest that he's a part of. I don't know what the gently caress is going on with almost anything, and even looking up poo poo on the wiki is loving exhausting, because every time I type something in it inevitably leads to 20000 other things that I need to read up on to understand the first question.

The game is fun but holy poo poo is it overwhelming. I'm not hating it, I'm just completely lost. I don't know how to make my guns not poo poo (so that I'm not so stuck relying on energy to get poo poo done), I don't know what half of any of this poo poo means (like what is the difference between slash, puncture, and impact?), etc.

My head hasn't spun in circles like this in a long time.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Gonkish posted:

I don't know what half of any of this poo poo means (like what is the difference between slash, puncture, and impact?), etc.

Basic answer to this, slash causes bleeding on enemies, draining their health through armor and shields. Puncture has some armor penetration and Impact does extra damage against robots and shields. Basically the only one you need to care about is slash because it goes through everything.

Also don't feel like you have to do a thing as soon as it shows up, focus on one thing like a quest or weapon levelling or a single syndicate.

Avynte
Jun 30, 2012



Ask in clan chat for (basic) Damage, Multishot, and Elemental damage mods. Mod your weapons in that order based on the capacity you have. Don't stress over crit vs status just yet. Ignore slash/puncture/impact until you feel better about the mechanics.

Also the traditional answer of rhino/hek will solve all problems.

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

The Yanks kill and me I read Mao Mao
The jester is king and me I sing
Mao Mao
The bombs go off and me I scoff
Mao Mao
Girls run and me I follow
Mao Mao


idk i think the zaw aesthetic goes really well with gara's aesthetic

otoh gara doesn't need melee weapons so

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Every aesthetic is improved by a nice sword.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014




Tortured By Flan

I think I'm in the clan now, but I haven't a drat clue how to get into the dojo. My google-fu is doing very poorly. Help?

SSNeoman posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqVc_DbvUmI#t=4322s

Check this out for the magic behind the curtain. There might be verbal spoilers here though so beware.

E: to that gif



What is that weapon and how do I make sweet love to it?

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


Potato Salad posted:

I think I'm in the clan now, but I haven't a drat clue how to get into the dojo. My google-fu is doing very poorly. Help?


What is that weapon and how do I make sweet love to it?

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Zarr

For Dojo you need to craft the Clan key, which will unlock the dojo in the bottom left of the map

Pretty sure other clan people can taxi you in for now though

Psion
Dec 13, 2002



that's the Zarr. And it's hilarious.

pair with dual rogga on Hydroid for maximum pirate

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Potato Salad posted:

I think I'm in the clan now, but I haven't a drat clue how to get into the dojo. My google-fu is doing very poorly. Help?

It's a location on the star chart.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014




Tortured By Flan

Gonkish posted:

Alright, so I've been playing this for a bit now, and I'm incredibly confused. Every time I think I'm getting a handle on what to work towards... the game throws about a dozen new things in my face unceremoniously and I'm right back to being confused as gently caress again.

I chose Excalibur and I'm basically relying entirely on Exalted Blade to do anything, because once I get above 17 or so I find that all my normal weapons are absolute poo poo and do absolutely nothing to anything (even the max rank ones with mods that I've upgraded).

I don't know where I'm supposed to focus my time because there's so much poo poo being thrown at me from a thousand different angles and I have no clue what any of it is for. I just came across Cephalon Simaris and I didn't even know he existed until the Quest that he's a part of. I don't know what the gently caress is going on with almost anything, and even looking up poo poo on the wiki is loving exhausting, because every time I type something in it inevitably leads to 20000 other things that I need to read up on to understand the first question.

The game is fun but holy poo poo is it overwhelming. I'm not hating it, I'm just completely lost. I don't know how to make my guns not poo poo (so that I'm not so stuck relying on energy to get poo poo done), I don't know what half of any of this poo poo means (like what is the difference between slash, puncture, and impact?), etc.

My head hasn't spun in circles like this in a long time.



I am basically just accepting that it is going to be a long time before I know what Tenourifite Quazzlemorph credits for Bedo's weekly Neomorphic Ferrite Nalquex is about and why it needs three Huk parts to build.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Could people please stop fighting the avatar war over my avatar. I really appreciate people being nice about it but I'm feeling crappier that people are wasting money because someone is an asshole than I am about the avatar in the first place.


See the star map, for now, just focus on that, using the Junctions and doing what they say to keep reaching new areas.

Everything else can wait.

Fargin Icehole
Feb 18, 2011

Pet me.


I saw someone wield a giant greatsword, it almost look like Nightmare's Soul Edge, but i dont recognize any weapon that fits this description in the marketplace. Was it a ZAWWW?

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)

Potato Salad posted:

I think I'm in the clan now, but I haven't a drat clue how to get into the dojo. My google-fu is doing very poorly. Help?

You need to craft a clan key. It's cheap but takes 2 hours... I think. The build time is just to dissuade people from hopping clans all the time. Then you find the clan dojo in the starmap at the bottom left or go menu>personal(?)>clan. Either way will get you to your clan window. Click one of the window that says Enter Dojo.

Or someone in the dojo can also invite you in and you just accept. But pretty sure you can't use all the features like labs until you craft a clan key.

And Tyler Too!
Aug 15, 2007
JOCKEY OWNS

Stichelin it is, thank you!


Level up your mods periodically and you'll see your damage go up. Don't worry about maxing them, just a bump here and there. Remember to use elemental mods too, Corrosive (electric+toxic) is the best general-purpose element and shines against grineer.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

It's not a heavy sword but the closest I can think of is the Mire. It's a reward for clearing the final junction.

wid
Sep 7, 2005
Living in paradise (only bombed once)

Fargin Icehole posted:

I saw someone wield a giant greatsword, it almost look like Nightmare's Soul Edge, but i dont recognize any weapon that fits this description in the marketplace. Was it a ZAWWW?

Either a Mewan Zaw or a skin from Tennogen. Check the skins market. Mewan looks big but not Galatine big. It's actually a regular sword too.

Bazanga
Oct 10, 2006
chinchilla farmer

Two questions:

1) Is the "automatically fill mods" just dumb as hell, or is there logic to what it is doing? (It added melee damage to my Sentinel, which I'm pretty sure doesn't actually do melee attacks)

2) Is there a recommended "first" Zaw variant to build?

N-N-N-NINE BREAKER
Jul 12, 2014



Fargin Icehole posted:

I saw someone wield a giant greatsword, it almost look like Nightmare's Soul Edge, but i dont recognize any weapon that fits this description in the marketplace. Was it a ZAWWW?

If it was fuckoff huge it was probably the Dominion Heavy Blade Skin which has a weird interaction/bug with the zenistar

aegof
Mar 2, 2011


Bazanga posted:

Two questions:

1) Is the "automatically fill mods" just dumb as hell, or is there logic to what it is doing? (It added melee damage to my Sentinel, which I'm pretty sure doesn't actually do melee attacks)

2) Is there a recommended "first" Zaw variant to build?

1. super duper dumb

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.

Bazanga posted:

2) Is there a recommended "first" Zaw variant to build?

I think just do whatever style of weapon you're enjoying, you can't get the real top level power Zaws until you hit rank 4 Cetus standing anyway.

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013


Even with mostly unranked mods, finally doing mods myself significantly increased my damage.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010


The autofill button takes the conclave 'point' value of the mod or some other esoteric loving arcane chicanery and fucks everything up. It's useful exactly one time: When you are completely new and you have literally more slots on your frame/weapon than actual mods, and shoving them on isn't going to do anything negative.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Gun Saliva

RFC2324 posted:

Zarr is like that.

"wait, why are my cluster munitions bouncing backward towards me? poo poo!"


Not only is it like that now, they had to patch it so it didn't do that every time.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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for the record, the cluster bombs from the zarr don't cause self-damage, only the initial explosion

this is because it was nearly actually impossible to not hurt yourself with the thing when it first came out

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014




Tortured By Flan

So, for primes, you basically wait for them to come out of Vault in rotation, then beat a boss? Or..wait for them to come out of Vault then spend money?

Also, is there a discord channel for goons?

FYI thanks for being a thread to throw questions into. I swear I'm doing my due diligence and am reading, but my GOd there's a lot to read comprehend. I'll stick to the advice to just open new areas for now.

Echophonic
Sep 16, 2005

ha;lp


Gun Saliva

They add relics containing the relevant items to the drop tables of various stages and bounties. Unvaulted stuff is farmed just like new stuff, just not all the time. You can also keep relics between unvaultings. I'm sure I have some vaulted ones in my stash.

I don't think asking questions about anything is frowned upon in this thread, god knows I've asked my share of questions about obtuse-rear end mechanics.

FunkyFjord
Jul 18, 2004



Once they're unvaulted then the relics that drop their parts will be back on drop tables. You farm for those and then crack open the relics to get the parts to build the frame or weapon.

But yes you can also buy them when they get unvaulted.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014




Tortured By Flan

Capture missions: play Tony Hawk Pro Skater for 90 seconds, then wait for the rest of the team to show up

I must be missing something, because rolling and flying past dozens of hapless derps can't be all there is to half these missions.

FunkyFjord
Jul 18, 2004



That's very standard for rescue, spy, and mobile defense missions as well.

Barreling past everything is a good thing to get use to, gets you more familiar with the movement system. Which is something you abuse later on to mitigate incoming damage in missions where you aren't just running past everything.

Your movement directly makes enemies less accurate, depending on what you're doing. Rolling in particular actually reduces damage taken during the animation.

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Captaindirtnap
Apr 26, 2012


endlessmonotony posted:

Got any of those ridiculously expensive arcane hats?

Wait what? I've got like 8. You can sell these?

Captaindirtnap fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2018 around 00:38

Pandasmores
May 7, 2009



What's the best hydroid build to get? I want to go maximum pirate and I already have a bunch of tentacle/pirate jokes to annoy my friends with.

kxZyle
Nov 7, 2012



Pillbug

Captaindirtnap posted:

Wait what? I've got like 8. You can sell these?



Depending on which helmets you've got, you could be sitting on hundreds to thousands of plat.

e: The helmets in the pic are worth about 600 plat total. Storm's the most valuable at 300.

kxZyle fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2018 around 00:42

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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hydroid can get a lot of use out of all the stats, but you can safely lower strength a bit if you want to focus on duration and range. other than that, well, go hog wild.

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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014




Tortured By Flan

The clan room


"Welcome to Hell, Santa"

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