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Six episodes in, but better late than never. Seth MacFarlane is trying to become a movie star now, but the show that put him on the map is still on the air. Discuss, argue, speculate, quote your quotes, and post your gifs here. Season 12 was co-showrun by Steve Callaghan and Mark Hentemann, both long-time members of the writing staff (Callaghan was a writers' assistant way back in season 1). This was Hentemann's last season on the show, as he and MacFarlane are currently developing Bordertown for Fox. This season: Cleveland (with his show freshly cancelled) moves back to Quahog, Peter and Quagmire start a folk band, and the Griffins go to Italy. Also, as announced at Comic-Con, one of the Griffins will die and be replaced by a new family member. Speaking of which, that brings us to tonight's episode: Episode 1206: "Life of Brian" Written by: Alex Carter Directed by: Joseph Lee "Stewie and Brian travel back in time to 17th-century Jamestown and make too many close calls with changing history. Stewie decides to destroy his time machine, but comes to regret it when Brian dies when he is hit by a car."
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 05:04 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 08:00 |
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RIP Mayor Adam We.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 05:09 |
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Ladies and gentleman, I believe we have just witnessed the Jurassic Bark of a new generation.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:08 |
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drat this was even sadder than the finale of Boardwalk Empire.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:27 |
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Daikatana Ritsu posted:Ladies and gentleman, I believe we have just witnessed the Jurassic Bark of a new generation. Except people actually still cared about Futurama when Jurassic Bark aired.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:27 |
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This is the first episode I've watched of Family Guy in a long time. They couldn't have screwed it up worse. You don't kill a character and return to stupid jokes 5 minutes later. I'm glad I stopped watching.Daikatana Ritsu posted:Ladies and gentleman, I believe we have just witnessed the Jurassic Bark of a new generation.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:31 |
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:44 |
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The dog died when the car hit him
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:45 |
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I am shocked. Brian was my favorite character.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:50 |
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I haven't watched Family Guy since Season 4 or 5 but from what I hear Seth MacFarlane is driving this show into the side of the mountain and it is wonderful.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:50 |
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TrixRabbi posted:I haven't watched Family Guy since Season 4 or 5 but from what I hear Seth MacFarlane is driving this show into the side of the mountain and it is wonderful. He wants it to end, but Fox doesn't.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 06:56 |
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Maybe it's just a gag. A very elaborate gag.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:05 |
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When does the rest of the Griffin family die?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:05 |
Really, this was just a peculiar decision. I was sure it was Meg or Chris who was going to die, as they're kind of useless characters. I don't quite get this though. There's future episodes with Brian in the summary, and there's even one with him in the title, "Brian the Closer".
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:19 |
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boom boom boom fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Oct 7, 2014 |
# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:20 |
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Can they put Ted in this?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:36 |
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I feel like this is yet another instance of Seth taking his genuine belief that Family Guy is an "All In The Family"-esque show to heart. What did a bunch of those poignant 70's sitcoms do? Kill off a main character to shake things up. Of course, he's forgetting that almost every instance resulted in the show dramatically going downhill so yeah maybe it's intentional show suicide.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:38 |
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Something about Seth McFarlane’s awful self-insert character being killed off says something, dont you think?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:43 |
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Space_Butler posted:I feel like this is yet another instance of Seth taking his genuine belief that Family Guy is an "All In The Family"-esque show to heart. What did a bunch of those poignant 70's sitcoms do? Kill off a main character to shake things up. It could be worse. He could think this is Archie Bunker's Place.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:44 |
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:47 |
This is the first episode I've watched in a long time. It's poo poo.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 07:47 |
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Nichael posted:Really, this was just a peculiar decision. I was sure it was Meg or Chris who was going to die, as they're kind of useless characters. I don't quite get this though. There's future episodes with Brian in the summary, and there's even one with him in the title, "Brian the Closer". It's a strong hint that Brian isn't permanently dead.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 08:21 |
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Nichael posted:Really, this was just a peculiar decision. I was sure it was Meg or Chris who was going to die, as they're kind of useless characters. I don't quite get this though. There's future episodes with Brian in the summary, and there's even one with him in the title, "Brian the Closer". Actually... That episode is now titled "Vinny the Closer", and the episode mentioned earlier, "Brian's a Bad Father" is "Vinny's a Bad Father"
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 08:50 |
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They replaced a main character with an italian stereotype. This is more Poochie than Jefferson Darcy.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 09:03 |
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boom boom boom fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Oct 7, 2014 |
# ? Nov 25, 2013 09:07 |
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Is that loving Paulie Walnuts voicing Vinny? That's genuinely awesome.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 09:25 |
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LividLiquid posted:They replaced a main character with an italian stereotype.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 09:26 |
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Eh, I liked this show when I was a stupid teenager, but all of the characters on it are husks of what they used to be. They really couldn't have done much more to ruin Brian's likablity than they already had. It's often repeated that Brian is a liberal mouthpeice for Seth Macfarlane, and that maybe was true in the original series, but modern Family Guy, the same show that tried to make Rush Limbaugh look good, is pretty clearly conservative/libertarian slanted and Brian was turned into an ultra strawman the writers liked to shat on.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 09:42 |
escape artist posted:Actually... Where do you see this?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 10:24 |
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Pleasant Friend posted:Eh, I liked this show when I was a stupid teenager, but all of the characters on it are husks of what they used to be. They really couldn't have done much more to ruin Brian's likablity than they already had. Are you loving kidding? Seriously. Just don't even post anymore because you aren't watching the show. You think this show tried to make Rush Limbaugh look good? That's the dumbest loving thing I might have ever seen posted in this forum. And you know what? I'm sick of you all acting like Family Guy's glory days were 10 years ago. Oh yeah, we gotta return to the halycon days of Peter licking his nipples in a public pool, and finding cheetos in his manboobs. High brow stuff right there. What a profound character study, this used to be. The Rush Limbaugh episode was a critique of people who are quick to switch sides and jump on bandwagons. Kind of like how you hopped on the "gently caress Family Guy" bandwagon, because you turned 20, I guess. escape artist fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Nov 25, 2013 |
# ? Nov 25, 2013 10:35 |
escape artist posted:Are you loving kidding? Seriously. Just don't even post anymore because you aren't watching the show. You think this show tried to make Rush Limbaugh look good? That's the dumbest loving thing I might have ever seen posted in this forum. I basically agree. I mean, I don't think the show's as good as it was, but it's not like some kind of massive fall from grace either. It's just kind of a standard slow down that any sitcom experiences. The hate this show gets is unfounded; it's a joke-machine show and it does its job reasonable well (most of the time).
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 10:42 |
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escape artist posted:Are you loving kidding? Seriously. Just don't even post anymore because you aren't watching the show. You think this show tried to make Rush Limbaugh look good? That's the dumbest loving thing I might have ever seen posted in this forum. No, I see the show. I don't like it. It's poo poo. But I still see it because people in my family watch trash shows in the same room as me. So not only are you stupidly angry for no good reason, the basis for your bad argument is built on stupid assumptions. It's really odd how you just segue into a tirade about the past episodes not being "high brow", as if that's what people in the past were ever watching it for. But if you can't understand the difference with people finding juvenile nipple licking and manboob cheetos more palatable to laugh at than bloody gore for gore sake and everyone being completely unlikable assholes, well I don't know what to tell you.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 11:56 |
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Pleasant Friend posted:No, I see the show. I don't like it. It's poo poo. But I still see it because people in my family watch trash shows in the same room as me. You started out the post he originally quoted with the most generic, boilerplate-type criticism that someone who used to watch any show in the history of television before dropping it at some point could be expected to throw around, you then segue into political comparisons you've heard third parties make and finally wrap it all up with how the show made Rush Limbaugh look good in an episode. I honestly don't see how anyone reading that post would think you haven't stopped watching that show a long while ago and aren't just echoing random reviews/criticisms/comments from third parties... (...that somehow believe the point of the Rush Limbaugh episode was to make him 'look good', no less) Duzzy Funlop fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Nov 25, 2013 |
# ? Nov 25, 2013 12:45 |
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This won't stick, but maybe they'll get a few good episodes out of it. The new dog seems likable, but launching the character as a mishmash of Italian-American stereotypes makes it hard to imagine him as a protagonist for any stories. They still need to fill him out, a lot. Also, the start of this episode was clearly just "Well we've got years of jokes about Native Americans that we haven't managed to shoehorn in yet, let's just drop them all in at once."
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 13:28 |
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they can't take brian out because he was in the protopilot precursor thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caR_5BgEgv8
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 13:37 |
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Duzzy Funlop posted:You started out the post he originally quoted with the most generic, boilerplate-type criticism that someone who used to watch any show in the history of television before dropping it at some point could be expected to throw around, you then segue into political comparisons you've heard third parties make and finally wrap it all up with how the show made Rush Limbaugh look good in an episode. I really don't get what you expected me to post with my general disapproval? Just randomly bring up some specific scene I didn't like from some unrelated episode in my initial post? It was a generic complaint because I didn't expect to have to prove anything. And it's not my fault someone jumped to wrong assumptions from it. I don't think I want to get into seriously analyzing Family Guy episodes in this thread, because that sounds just awful, but I'll stick with my assessment, Excellence in Broadcasting went out of it's way to make Rush Limbaugh look good. edit And just to make it clear, I don't hate Family Guy because it is political. Pleasant Friend fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Nov 25, 2013 |
# ? Nov 25, 2013 14:02 |
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Would it be overly cynical of me to think that they did this just to pull the rug from under the Simpson's plan to also kill off a major character later this season?
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 14:18 |
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Would it be overly cynical of me to think that they did this just to pull the rug from under the Simpson's plan to also kill off a major character later this season? I had to turn off the episode earlier this season where Seth's sister voices some woman who is even crazier than Quagmire, since it was getting too dark even for this show. It was uncomfortable and not funny at all.
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# ? Nov 25, 2013 14:59 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:It was uncomfortable and not funny at all. Can we rename the thread this because it fits a lot of this season.
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Pleasant Friend posted:I don't think I want to get into seriously analyzing Family Guy episodes in this thread, because that sounds just awful, but I'll stick with my assessment, Excellence in Broadcasting went out of it's way to make Rush Limbaugh look good. On a more current topic though, assuming this change sticks on the show (and I am not sure it will), I really feel like future episodes are going to feel incredibly awkward. It's a clear breaking point in the show's basic structure, that feels cheap and soulless. Even by Family Guy cartoon standards. Brian and Stewie are essentially the show's protagonists, after all. Nichael fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Nov 25, 2013 |
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