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Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
CelticPredator, that's a great picture.

Also, holy gently caress, what a great episode. I mean, Jesus. Amazing.

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Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

That post-credits scene. Jesus Christ.

MatildaTheHun
Aug 31, 2011

here's the thing donovan, I'm always hungry
Guess I should be that guy, but that jelly bean scene went on just a bit too long, left a sour taste in my mouth.

Otherwise, this was another amazing episode. The way they keep playing with expectations and throwing them away before you can fully form them is the smartest writing I've seen in a while.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

TheModernAmerican posted:

Guess I should be that guy, but that jelly bean scene went on just a bit too long, left a sour taste in my mouth.

Otherwise, this was another amazing episode. The way they keep playing with expectations and throwing them away before you can fully form them is the smartest writing I've seen in a while.

It was supposed to. You're not supposed to be able to laugh off attempted rape. Even in a cartoon. There were some dark themes and scenes here.

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004

Last Chance posted:

That post-credits scene. Jesus Christ.

God dammit, am I going to have to go back and watch the post-credit scenes for all the others? I'll never learn to stick around.

MatildaTheHun
Aug 31, 2011

here's the thing donovan, I'm always hungry

Drifter posted:

It was supposed to. You're not supposed to be able to laugh off attempted rape. Even in a cartoon. There were some dark themes and scenes here.

I guess? It's a pretty stark tonal shift from 20 minutes of jokes to 15 seconds of "this is a dark scene please don't laugh". There isn't much of a precedent in the rest of the series so far.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Drifter posted:

CelticPredator, that's a great picture.

Also, holy gently caress, what a great episode. I mean, Jesus. Amazing.

Thanks a lot! I appreciate it!

And yes...gently caress...this episode was amazing. The potential child rape was hard to watch, but thankfully they had that little bit at the end to leave me not feeling so lovely. Death of child molesters is always worth it.

Jerry's side plot was incredible too. Had a good heart to it..and of course "I'm kind of a stickler, how's your short game!?" "HOW IS YOUR SHORT GAME!!"

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I liked the look Rick gave Jellybean at the bar, a totally, "I know you tried to do something to my grandson and when we get done I am coming back and killing you..."

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Gosh that was amazing! I'm Mr. Meseeks! Look at me!

Also, I really like how peoples pupils are drawn.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

JediTalentAgent posted:

I liked the look Rick gave Jellybean at the bar, a totally, "I know you tried to do something to my grandson and when we get done I am coming back and killing you..."
On the re-watch: yeah, totally.

kadjule
Sep 4, 2004

I tell you, ponies have no preoccupation more nagging than to find friends to whom those unhappy creatures may surrender the gift of freedom.
I certainly was not expecting to ever see Crumply Crumplestien again.

:nws:Unbelievable Tales:nws: which is somehow even more disgusting than Doc and Mharti.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

TheModernAmerican posted:

I guess? It's a pretty stark tonal shift from 20 minutes of jokes to 15 seconds of "this is a dark scene please don't laugh". There isn't much of a precedent in the rest of the series so far.

The blue dudes were going to commit murder in order to kill themselves - they were literally in pain by being in the world. They also had tried to kill each other. The giant slipped and killed himself with a blow to the head, leaving his wife and baby alone.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


kadjule posted:

I certainly was not expecting to ever see Crumply Crumplestien again.

:nws:Unbelievable Tales:nws: which is somehow even more disgusting than Doc and Mharti.

Jesus loving Christ, this guy is completely insane.

Macrame_God
Sep 1, 2005

The stairs lead down in both directions.

hemophilia posted:

Jesus loving Christ, this guy is completely insane.

Really. Who watches that and thinks "I need him for my children's TV show"? Not that I'm complaining, I'm glad he's out there working and that he has his own show, but Jesus Christ! :stare:

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Because Justin Roiland is good at voice work and animation...I mean, what else do you need?

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

Reminder that someone looked at Jhonen Vasquez's work and thought "I need him to be the creator and writer of a children's TV show".

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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To be fair, I believe they looked at Squee, which, outside of a few themes, curse words, and some disgusting bits, is still pretty close to what we got on Zim.

A Miserable Robot
Nov 4, 2009

JediTalentAgent posted:

I liked the look Rick gave Jellybean at the bar, a totally, "I know you tried to do something to my grandson and when we get done I am coming back and killing you..."

I saw the murder in his eyes and expected him to start a bar brawl over it. It really surprised me when he actually comforted Morty and suggested a clean way of ending the adventure :unsmith:

I also thought the toilet seat breaking was a really nice touch and great attention to detail.

JesusFists
Feb 14, 2005

ong-time listener, first-time caller.


Loved the episode and the series in general so far. For those unfamiliar with Dan Harmon's technique, this episode was a cool example of his use of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, which Harmon uses as a template for much of his story structure. The Call to Adventure even got a direct shout-out!

People were speculating earlier in the thread about possible character development for Morty in terms of him becoming more assertive, and we really got to see that play out here. The attempted jellybean rape scene, disturbing as it was, demonstrated that Morty isn't ready to take the lead in adventuring, and still needs Rick to protect him from the worst of their crazy, chaotic universe. From a show-creating view that makes sense, of course, because if we started going on Morty-style adventures all the time the show would start feeling like, well, Adventure Time. What's cool is that the plot allowed Morty to take the hero's journey and grow in the process, even though he failed his quest. That sort of emotional groundedness is what made me fall in love with Community, so I'm happy to see the same fundamentals at work in an animated, serialized comedy, most of which are content with completely static characters.

Also enjoying the studio and fan art in the thread, looking forward to more.

JesusFists fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Jan 21, 2014

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

A Miserable Robot posted:

I saw the murder in his eyes and expected him to start a bar brawl over it. It really surprised me when he actually comforted Morty and suggested a clean way of ending the adventure :unsmith:
Then he straight disintegrated the guy after Morty was through the portal and unaware of what he was doing.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

JesusFists posted:

The attempted jellybean rape scene

I fuckin' love that the show inspires serious discussions about topics like that. It just doesn't stop giving. :v:

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer
The whole post-credits scene was very Perry Bible Fellowship...just absurd in an incredibly dark fantasy way. "Remember him for the Jellybean he represents, not the Jellybean he was."

semiavrage
Apr 28, 2007

I'll show them... I'll show ALL of them...

TheModernAmerican posted:

I guess? It's a pretty stark tonal shift from 20 minutes of jokes to 15 seconds of "this is a dark scene please don't laugh". There isn't much of a precedent in the rest of the series so far.

I agree with this, I thought it was dark and did not at all fit with the tone of the show. It wasn't funny. Other than that this episode was incredible.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
It certainly left me stunned.

I can understand thematically why they did it. It's just, wow, the attempted rape of a child by someone who turned out to be a serial predator of children was literally the last thing I ever expected to see tonight.

At the start of it, I thought they were going to stop when the jelly bean first grabbed Mort and acted sleazy. Then it kept going. Then Mort was forced over the sink with the guy drooling into his face. Then they were in the toilet stall. Then it got really violent leaving Mort on the floor covered in blood, screaming. Then we next see him go up to Rick traumatised and crying, begging to go home.

But sure, apart from that, it was a blast.

Sakarja
Oct 19, 2003

"Our masters have not heard the people's voice for generations and it is much, much louder than they care to remember."

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Another good episode, but that scene was brutal. Pretty ballsy of Dan Harmon, considering all the outrage that followed his "rape joke" on Harmontown.

VictorGrunn
Feb 15, 2004
Ye Guilty

Gorilla Salad posted:

Then we next see him go up to Rick traumatised and crying, begging to go home.

I think that got to me more than the attempted rape part. Really, Morty kicked that guy's rear end, so that part was immediately satisfying. But when he goes back to Rick, he's not screaming or anything - he's clearly thinking 'I'm a moron, I brought this on myself, I'm not cut out for this and I never should have thought I was' and he's in a miserable state with a broken spirit. :smith:

COBRARocky
Jul 28, 2013

I think the idea of a Jellybean trying to rape someone is what makes it funny.

Zsinjeh
Jun 11, 2007

:shoboobs:
Goddamn, this loving show. I haven't straight up cried from laughing like this since the first time I was introduced to Always Sunny.

e: vvvv Yes this is my favorite part as well. It would have been so easy to have Rick just be a jerk to Morty and honestly not care if he lives or dies, but that he actually loves him when poo poo goes down is hilariously endearing.

Zsinjeh fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Jan 21, 2014

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

JediTalentAgent posted:

I liked the look Rick gave Jellybean at the bar, a totally, "I know you tried to do something to my grandson and when we get done I am coming back and killing you..."

This is one of the things that really makes me like Rick. Sure he is a egotistical jackass and completed self centered but he really does love Morty. And god help you if you gently caress with his family.

Ho Chi Meeeeee
Jun 13, 2008

let me shovel out your brains
hang my image in your skull
so I can be the vision
in your nightmares from now on

kadjule posted:

I certainly was not expecting to ever see Crumply Crumplestien again.

:nws:Unbelievable Tales:nws: which is somehow even more disgusting than Doc and Mharti.

Holy poo poo.

LittlePriest
Oct 5, 2003


Winner #39 of the 2k14 #Gamergate Shit Show
Do not talk to me if your a SJW MRA PUA fucktarded Shitlord, (PS: GJ on ruining videogame journalism twitter drama MODS).
Nah, thing was, it wasn't funny. It was presented as a traumatic, hosed up situation. I know comedy is a subversion of expectations, but this was a subversion of comedy. The set up was there for a cheap rape joke and they took a turn into the real world somewhere along the way. In a lot of shows, the jelly bean being creepy towards an underage boy in the restroom would have been the joke. I'm looking at you "family guy."

It was hosed up, but I like shows to take poo poo in unexpected directions. The show doesn't seem to be afraid to take an actual look at some of the things people joke about, and that's interesting to me.

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
I hope it becomes a running theme that the family asks Rick for help with a trivial task, with wacky results!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

I hope it becomes a running theme that the family asks Rick for help with a trivial task, with wacky results!

I was about to type out "They'd have to eventually figure out that he was loving with them every time no matter how good it seemed at first" but no, no they don't. They're idiots.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I didn't see an issue with the jellybean scene at all. Considering how hosed up their adventures are generally (the entire point of this episode) it had to be something that was actually worse than shooting the insect people in customs in the earlier episode and whatever. It's series consistent.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

I was about to type out "They'd have to eventually figure out that he was loving with them every time no matter how good it seemed at first" but no, no they don't. They're idiots.
I dunno, besides her boyfriend getting smashed into thousands of icy meat-chunks, Summer has more or less come out of these episodes on top. And that was weeks ago, and not even her fault.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


kadjule posted:

I certainly was not expecting to ever see Crumply Crumplestien again.

:nws:Unbelievable Tales:nws: which is somehow even more disgusting than Doc and Mharti.
I love this show, and Justin Roiland seems really talented, but I think he's definitely someone who benefits from the creative confinements television puts on you compared with the internet. I get what he was going for there, but it wasn't particularly funny. It was worse than Doc and Mharti, which it really does make look tame in comparison. Doc and Mharti was funny, if not sustainable for an actual narrative.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Just watched it holy poo poo tumblr is gonna LOVE this show. Trigger warning Rick and Morty Jesus

CelticPredator posted:

Mmm, cool if I post a bit of Fan Art I did?



This is pretty awesome

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

kadjule posted:

I certainly was not expecting to ever see

ultramiraculous posted:

The whole post-credits scene was very Perry Bible Fellowship...just absurd in an incredibly dark fantasy way. "Remember him for the Jellybean he represents, not the Jellybean he was."
Yeah, I mean it was a dark kinda funny, on a superficial level it's just like "the jellybean he was that's so wacky!" and then you realize poo poo like this really does happen IRL, I mean look at loving Sandusky and all that poo poo at Penn State and how the football dregs all can't wait to get in line to suck off the dead coach's statue and it really goes into hyperabsurdity

quote:

Crumply Crumplestien again.

:nws:Unbelievable Tales:nws: which is somehow even more disgusting than Doc and Mharti.

:psyduck: whoever said this makes Doc and Mharti tame was spot on what the gently caress

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
TO be honest that Unbelievable Tales short was pretty loving dumb. It was old hat standard violence with kinda standard torture-porn 101 stuff. There was nothing interesting about it.

I don't like movies like SAW or Human Centipede or other revenge torture porn stuff, so maybe it's not for me, but it was really unimaginative and, as I wrote before, just dumb.

I wouldn't even call it shocking, just blah.

If the ball licking pre-rick and morty and this is what he comes up with on his own then he really does need that additional restraint normal TV provides. And other writers to help him, probably.

Drifter fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Jan 21, 2014

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ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

The first Doc and Mharti short was just a silly sex joke. A good one, but at its core a silly sex joke.

Unbelievable Tales is basically a horror show masquerading as a comic short.

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