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Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Monkey Fracas posted:

I never really even get what they're suggesting with all of the "any day now" cartoons- Invade Iran? Nuke Iran before they nuke us? More economic sanctions? Just be dicks to them for no reason because gently caress 'Em?

To answer my own question: there is a person with a "D" next to their name in the White House.

Iran has already been propped up as a boogeyman. And Iran is always the thing under the bed when they have nothing else to whine about.

Exceptionalism also meant being utterly poo poo at diplomacy and rubbing your rear end in your peer's face, didn't you hear?

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achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Glad to see Rogers is back

MisterBadIdea
Oct 9, 2012

Anything?

quote:


Remarkably subtle for good old JRRose. I mean, look at that, there's no newspaper with a joke-explaining headline, Christie's not raising his eyebrows and mugging at the reader to show how clever Rose thinks he is... hell, I chuckled a bit.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Rebochan posted:

Okay, I'm about to crash, so here's a giant dump. Of cartoons.

1

...is this the first one using this really obvious metaphor?

Probably, because the story about George Washington being unable to tell a lie is itself a lie.


quote:

16

Uh...that is terrible Spanish...sorry, Spanglish.

Americans trying to get onto Obamacare end up banging their brains against the wall with frustration, but illegal immigrants Spanish speakers can get right on that precious taxpayer-funded teat with no problems whatsoever.

Die in agony, Benson.

MisterBadIdea
Oct 9, 2012

Anything?

Jedit posted:

Americans trying to get onto Obamacare end up banging their brains against the wall with frustration, but illegal immigrants Spanish speakers can get right on that precious taxpayer-funded teat with no problems whatsoever.

Um, not quite. The story is that the Spanish-language version of Healthcare.gov is garbage; basically, they threw the English site into Google Translate and called it a day, so Spanish speakers have to read machine-generated gibberish to get health insurance.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

MisterBadIdea posted:

Um, not quite. The story is that the Spanish-language version of Healthcare.gov is garbage; basically, they threw the English site into Google Translate and called it a day, so Spanish speakers have to read machine-generated gibberish to get health insurance.

Look again. The English "bang your head here" sign has a well-used target under it, while the target under the other sign is completely unused. Why would this be, if the English language site is fine but the Spanish language version is a PITA to use due to mistranslation?

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

It's unusable and its instructions don't make sense in Spanish. The reason why there's no blood spatter there is because they look at it and say "Bango the head is here? What the hell does that mean? Who is Bango the Head?" and they don't bother to try and figure it out.

Coincidentally, me and my band "Bango the Head" will be doing a set at the local VFW at nine next Friday if you guys want to watch.

Vox Valentine fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jan 15, 2014

alnilam
Nov 10, 2009


Uh, the democratically controlled senate?

Last Buffalo
Nov 7, 2011
In Dry Bones related news, the NY Times has a cool Op-Ed about everyones favorite intel martyr, Jonathan Pollard. It's a pretty interesting read, and gives a good overview of why Kirschen should go gently caress himself.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/15/opinion/keep-pollard-behind-bars.html?hp&rref=opinion

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Wolverton did a really racist cartoon about slavery where the black guy expresses gratitude that his ancestors were abducted from Africa, because Africa is currently a less than savory place to live.

It was really shocking, since normally his work is bland and inoffensive. Surprised no one remembered.

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

nickmeister posted:

Wolverton did a really racist cartoon about slavery where the black guy expresses gratitude that his ancestors were abducted from Africa, because Africa is currently a less than savory place to live.

It was really shocking, since normally his work is bland and inoffensive. Surprised no one remembered.

Uh, what? Are you sure you're not thinking of Dutch cartoonist Arend van Dam?

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

I dunno, that seems pretty accurate. I know I made the exact same face as the white guy while I was reading it.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Uh, what? Are you sure you're not thinking of Dutch cartoonist Arend van Dam?



"Good thing my great-grandparents were slaves so I'm not a slave in a goldmine today," he said to his colleague. Overcome with rage, his colleague promptly bludgeoned him to loving death with his briefcase.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Uh, what? Are you sure you're not thinking of Dutch cartoonist Arend van Dam?



Ugh, yeah, I meant that one. I wonder if he got any angry letters about that one.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Uh, what? Are you sure you're not thinking of Dutch cartoonist Arend van Dam?



Northern Europe seems to be really weird about race in general. As in, they're all very well-meaning but keep saying really weird off-putting insensitive things apparently by accident. Granted all my anecdotal examples are stuff I saw on SA, which self-selects for weirdness, so v:geno:v

e: I realize that "really weird" is a pretty vague criticism which I used twice in two sentences, but (a) I'm really tired right now, and (b) honestly the only response I can think of to "I sure am glad my ancestors were enslaved because at least I don't have to live in Africa now" is "Wow, that's a really weird thing to say."

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

van Dam is probably one of the most overtly racist cartoonists that gets posted here with any regularity, like the notion of dog whistling is completely foreign to him. Probably only Yaakov and that dude from New Zealand who hates Maoris comes close.



Though this one is always good for a laugh

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!

colonel_korn posted:

van Dam is probably one of the most overtly racist cartoonists that gets posted here with any regularity, like the notion of dog whistling is completely foreign to him.

Because the notion of dog whistling is literally foreign to him. He lives in Holland, a country 80% Dutch and another 6% "other European".

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

loquacius posted:

Northern Europe seems to be really weird about race in general. As in, they're all very well-meaning but keep saying really weird off-putting insensitive things apparently by accident. Granted all my anecdotal examples are stuff I saw on SA, which self-selects for weirdness, so v:geno:v

If anything, Europe - regardless of which part you are talking about - is much more blatantly racist than the US. The guys who put a foot in their mouth when talking about the foreign concept of American race relations are the good ones.

PhancyPants
Nov 15, 2003

Hotdog Suit Up!



PTSD, and Canada's less then spectacular handling of returning veterans was brought back into the light recently after a soldier's aid dog wasn't allowed on the plane with her. This isn't really about the incident (Air Canada immediately issued apologies) but more that whenever it gets brought up both the government and the DND always put on sad faces, say how they're going to do their best, and push the responsibility down the line.

Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

1

"Actually, since you're Jewish and I'm probably a Muslim, seems weird to be meeting here, huh?"

2

Okay, someone help me out, this is the second pothole cartoon and I don't even know why.

3

Great, you've opened the necronomicon and doomed us all. THANKS OBAMA!

4

Richard Nixon is the devil on all our shoulders. AGC.

5

Any Day Now.

6

I SAID, any DAY now.

7

The monitor is not the computer. Duh. :smuggo:

8

9

Those wacky ballplayers.

10

Me me me me me, me me! A Bunson and Beeker cartoon.

11

And JJ posted a series of images about Bridgegate over at the Nib.





quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.



Boy, that Al Sharpton, huh? Wonder why he never shuts up about race. Maybe it's because he's an uppity nig race baiter.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


I wouldn't be surprised at all if this one were actually true. Not even JJ can bring himself to make Rachel Maddow say something unreasonable.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.

Rebochan posted:

9

Those wacky ballplayers.

Thanks for labeling the sack full of pills and injections "lies and deceit." I thought A-Rod was being suspended for the legitimate use of illicit PEDs in baseball.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

loquacius posted:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this one were actually true. Not even JJ can bring himself to make Rachel Maddow say something unreasonable.
Haha, that was my reaction too.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

Praseodymi posted:

I dunno, that seems pretty accurate. I know I made the exact same face as the white guy while I was reading it.
I wonder what caused those problems in some parts of Africa... HmmmmM

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Because the notion of dog whistling is literally foreign to him. He lives in Holland, a country 80% Dutch and another 6% "other European".
What? Dutch people know about dog whistling.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Ramirez posted a rant about Joe Biden on his facebook page yesterday. Pretty standard stuff until this jumped out at me:

quote:

Joe Biden can barely tie his own shoes.

Here are just a few examples of Joe Biden’s foreign policy expertise gleaned from our IBD editorial and other sources….

• When the Shah of Iran fell Biden said it “represented progress towards human rights in Iran.”
• He supported the one-sided Soviet-backed Nuclear Freeze in the 1980’s.
• He opposed Reagan’s arms buildup that ultimately brought down the Evil Empire.
• He opposed Reagan’s strategic defense initiative which led to our current missile defense capabilities.
• He opposed the B-2 bomber.
• He opposed the MX missile.
He was against giving aid to the contras which brought democracy to Nicaragua.
:stare: this is what Michael Ramirez believes.

PUGGERNAUT
Nov 14, 2013

I AM INCREDIBLY BORING AND SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT FOOD IN THE POLITICS THREAD
The only time I ever hear about Al Sharpton is when conservatives are complaining about him. Does he even do anything anymore? Why did JJ bring him up? So many questions...

TGLT
Aug 14, 2009

loquacius posted:

I wouldn't be surprised at all if this one were actually true. Not even JJ can bring himself to make Rachel Maddow say something unreasonable.

It's actually pretty close to what she said. Except she said the bridge closure was not targeting the Mayor Sokolich, he was just collateral because that bridge is one of the most important things in the district the majority leader in the state senate, Loretta Weinberg, represents. And the traffic jam emails came the day after Christie's press conference where he specifically called out the New Jersey senate democrats for refusing to accept one of his appointees.

So you know, even less crazy than the already pretty not crazy thing JJ wrote.

edit: And I have no loving clue where he's getting the Al Sharpton thing from. As far as I can tell the only thing Shaprton has said was that the bridge thing could have contributed to a national security disaster. He's just loving inventing poo poo because he wants to try and appear centrist about this topic.

"Sure, Christie's office might have done something as political retribution, BUT THE LEFT is suggesting utterly crazy things like Not Crazy Thing and poo poo loving No One Said!" - JJ

TGLT fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Jan 15, 2014

Beef Hardcheese
Jan 21, 2003

HOW ABOUT I LASH YOUR SHIT


loquacius posted:

Northern Europe seems to be really weird about race in general. As in, they're all very well-meaning but keep saying really weird off-putting insensitive things apparently by accident. Granted all my anecdotal examples are stuff I saw on SA, which self-selects for weirdness, so v:geno:v

e: I realize that "really weird" is a pretty vague criticism which I used twice in two sentences, but (a) I'm really tired right now, and (b) honestly the only response I can think of to "I sure am glad my ancestors were enslaved because at least I don't have to live in Africa now" is "Wow, that's a really weird thing to say."

I know a Swedish woman who doesn't understand why blackface is considered offensive, despite knowing that it's never been used in a positive light. "So, if I decide I want to put up blackface and dress up as Rhianna for Halloween, that's racist?" She admits that that level / type of sensitivity might be "an American thing", but was still pretty jarring to me to hear her say that.

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science

Xander77 posted:

He's a homeless crazy person who (*gasp*) used drugs in the past, so he must have deserved being beaten to death.

I recently overheard an anecdote about someone retelling a story where a homeless person tried to mug a "normal person." I felt kind of sick to my stomach and realized why we can't have good things as a country.

1
Horsey got enough tit-drawing out of his system to make this good cartoon, at least.

2
If they are going to vote democratic no matter what, how can you accuse Obama of bribing them?

3
So you are saying someone should regulate these airlines? Awful socialist of you, SKELLY.

4
Meh.

5
Actually, this isn't hypocritical at all.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
While we are still on the issue of cultural differences between Europe and America, might I just interject that it still baffles me how easy Americans seem to be able to use "nazi" as a colloquial term for things they don't like?

PUGGERNAUT posted:

The only time I ever hear about Al Sharpton is when conservatives are complaining about him. Does he even do anything anymore? Why did JJ bring him up? So many questions...

He still gets consulted on racial issues in the American news media and probably still is a familiar symbol for a lot of people. Personally, I always just assumed he stopped being seriously relevant by October the 3rd, 2004 at the very latest.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Simon Draskovic posted:

I know a Swedish woman who doesn't understand why blackface is considered offensive, despite knowing that it's never been used in a positive light. "So, if I decide I want to put up blackface and dress up as Rhianna for Halloween, that's racist?" She admits that that level / type of sensitivity might be "an American thing", but was still pretty jarring to me to hear her say that.

I was speaking with a Dutch woman the other month, and she was talking about the last time her grandparents visited her in the States. Apparently they were utterly baffled over why people would act shocked after they explained their tradition of Sinterklaas, and his blackface elves.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

colonel_korn posted:

Ramirez posted a rant about Joe Biden on his facebook page yesterday. Pretty standard stuff until this jumped out at me:

:stare: this is what Michael Ramirez believes.

Ahahahaha, mail that bullet point list to every voter that OFA has the information for and watch Biden win the primaries.

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science

Randler posted:

He still gets consulted on racial issues in the American news media and probably still is a familiar symbol for a lot of people. Personally, I always just assumed he stopped being seriously relevant by October the 3rd, 2004 at the very latest.

Sharpton has a show on MSNBC. Lots of people think he just gets money for bringing up race on TV, but if you really want to criticize Sharpton about anything, it probably should be that he has promised never to criticize Obama over anything.

I mean, I get that the reasoning is that he knows that the other side would twist his words as proof that even "Obama's people" don't like him. At the same time, he's a journalist and point blank saying you won't do your job with regards to the current president is just blatantly unprofessional.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad! :emo:

Randler posted:

While we are still on the issue of cultural differences between Europe and America, might I just interject that it still baffles me how easy Americans seem to be able to use "nazi" as a colloquial term for things they don't like?


He still gets consulted on racial issues in the American news media and probably still is a familiar symbol for a lot of people. Personally, I always just assumed he stopped being seriously relevant by October the 3rd, 2004 at the very latest.

As someone who never watched that show, could you explain here?

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

Simon Draskovic posted:

I know a Swedish woman who doesn't understand why blackface is considered offensive, despite knowing that it's never been used in a positive light. "So, if I decide I want to put up blackface and dress up as Rhianna for Halloween, that's racist?" She admits that that level / type of sensitivity might be "an American thing", but was still pretty jarring to me to hear her say that.

Don't underestimate cultural differences, people.

Wanamingo posted:

I was speaking with a Dutch woman the other month, and she was talking about the last time her grandparents visited her in the States. Apparently they were utterly baffled over why people would act shocked after they explained their tradition of Sinterklaas, and his blackface elves.
Isn't there a protest over that every year, but every time it happens they get beaten up by Dutch police?

IM DAY DAY IRL
Jul 11, 2003

Everything's fine.

Nothing to see here.

Simon Draskovic posted:

I know a Swedish woman who doesn't understand why blackface is considered offensive

Unfortunately the same can be said for a disappointingly large population of the US.

Rebochan
Feb 2, 2006

Take my evolution

I got lectured by a British woman once that the real reason we have so many racial problems in America is that we don't play with Golliwogs. According to her, exposure to racist iconography makes you more "tolerant."

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Rebochan posted:

I got lectured by a British woman once that the real reason we have so many racial problems in America is that we don't play with Golliwogs. According to her, exposure to racist iconography makes you more "tolerant."
It's actually because we have significant numbers of different races, unlike in most countries in Europe, but hey!

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steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
That may be true for some countries, but definitely not for goddamn England (also it's not like lots of the English aren't racist as gently caress, lol).

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