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Intoluene
Jul 6, 2011

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Azido azideazide has excited a research laboratory specialising in explosive, high-nitrogen compounds. This is mostly because they detonated infrared spectrometers when they tried to measure it. When they finally got the light source to a level so low they wouldn't blow up the spectrometer, the spectrum was pretty bad. Their X-ray crystallography was apparently very good, though.

N-amino azidotetrazole is our starting material. Fellow chemists in the audience, I apologise for the heart attack for having to read "azidotetrazole" and the realisation that you can make something bigger and nastier from it.

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Intoluene
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kastein posted:

This might be the third or fourth time this has been mentioned in this thread, I'm not sure, but still, it kicks rear end.

Those guys are loving nuts and I salute them for it.

I hadn't seen it in the current thread so it may have been posted in one before now. Either way, it deserves all these mentions. Klapötke are crazy, crazy people and deserve some kind of award for all the work they're putting in to chemicals that go boom when you breathe on them from across the room.

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Irradiation posted:

Not super dangerous but I would sit around and sniff toluene if it wouldn't kill my brain. I love that smell.

As long as you're not huffing its smaller brother, benzene. Toluene is nothing compared to straight out benzene. It's like Toluene but more effective at lower doses oh and highly carcinogenic. This is why Toluene is your aromatic solvent of choice. :drugnerd:

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I'm Crap posted:

I managed to add water to a beaker of full-fat 18M concentrated sulphuric acid once because I'm an idiot. FOOOOOOSH splash fizz fizz fizz gently caress poo poo gently caress.

Do you still have a face? This sounds like the kind of thing that results in someone losing their face.

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Schmetterling posted:

In year ten we had to make up our own experiment and write a report about it. Whilst the other kids grew flowers in salt water or measured the stopping distance of their quad bikes, I was allowed to spend a bunch of lunchtimes in the chemistry lab making a variety of esters. :3: Being teachers pet has its perks.

My favourite was the banana one; I can't remember the name though.

Isoamyl acetate is what you're after as mentioned in the previous page of this thread.

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Code Jockey posted:

Didn't Outkast do a song about this? :v:

Well, poo poo. I completely forgot that song existed, now it's stuck in my brain.

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I was also given the "Jesus christ you guys, here it is, how to make meth. See how easy this poo poo is? Now don't loving do it" speech during undergrad.

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Samizdata posted:

And this is a bad thing how?

I want to know how the gently caress their mob farm passed an ethics committee.

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Yeah, trichloromonofluromethane is pretty much your true CFC, it's pretty benign on its own but it will eat up oxygen, including ozone like nobody's business. Keep it away from fire in a well ventilated area and you'll be fine.

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Yeah, unless you bathe in the stuff, DDT won't really do anything to you. Also, fun tip if you want to get rid of a trichloromonofluromethane spill? Just open the windows and let it evaporate. That's seriously the recommended spill clean advice.

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Sagebrush posted:

Chlorine and fluorine are quite benign and happy as long as they're bonded to something. You can eat most of the chloride salts, fluoride compounds are good for your teeth, and halogenated organic compounds are usually so stable and inert that, as noted, the clean-up method is "open a window."

It's when those atoms are on their own, looking for something to attach to, that you need to look out.

Or when they're attached to a hydrogen. That's bad too but that's because chlorine has a one night stand with hydrogen and gets its electron while hydrogen just kind of goes around corroding things. Fluorine does the same thing but way slower and likes bones so... Yeah.

I'll say this, though. Nothing has cleared up my sinus quite like a tiny amount of HCl and DCl gas.

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Goober Peas posted:

I remember in the early 80s every wooden utility pole in town had a warning placard stating it had been treated with DDT and listing off the health hazards. I much prefer placards for yard sales and lost pets.

It's overblown a bit, really. The only thing we've really been able to say about DDT exposure in humans is a suspected moderate carcinogenic effect and an oral dose LD50 of 113mg/kg in rats.

Edit: I should also say, DDT usage is still in place, but only for severe malaria outbreaks.

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Goober Peas posted:

I mean, as far as power poles, there's always that one kid that is going to lick one :shrug:

That's fair, still, no way a 5 year old licking a pole would even come near a lethal dose, or hell, even one that might make them sick. That said, the carcinogenic properties might have been known and it's still prudent to notify of toxic materials. I'd be more worried about a kid eating the chipped lead paint, personally.

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shalafi4 posted:

I used to help clean out research labs when a prof would move/leave. Typically they'd take or hazmat most of the things before hand so most of the time the worst thing we'd deal with is a little sulfuric acid or some benzene (the benzene was immidately squirreled away to the machine shop, cleans some things way too well)

The only place I'd keep Benzene is about 5 miles away from me. :stonk:

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Mustached Demon posted:

Yeah you would, intoluene.

It's just one of those chemicals that my professor said that he'd outright kick an honors/phd student out of their course for suggesting its practical use in a synthesis due to its carcinogenic properties.

And yes, my name refers to TNT. The toluene that hates.

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Those are listed in ppb (parts per billion) as tolerable quantities. Usually those tolerances for toxic products are in ppm.

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Gyro Zeppeli posted:

See for example: Thomas Midgley Jr, who set out to find something to reduce engine knocking, and eventually found an additive to gasoline that done the job perfectly. Tetraethyllead. Which took an astonishing amount of time (like, until the 1970s at the earliest) for people to realize cars that spew out lead are a bad idea.

After that turned out to be an enviromental disaster, he turned his ideas towards finding a more efficient refridgerant than the ammonia, chloromethane or sulphur dioxide that were being used at the time. So his team tried adding fluoride to hydrocarbons (which, hilariously, they believed wouldn't be toxic)...and were the first to synthesize Freon, the first CFC.

So one guy managed to pioneer the use of two seperate environmental catastrophies.

After becoming bedridden with polio, he used a series of ropes and pulleys to help him stay mobile. He got tangled in them and choked to death.

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Mustached Demon posted:

Fluorine just wants to consume all the electron density that's all. Be nice y'all.

Oxygen and Fluorine are both election hogs. When they get together, they get along like a lab on fire.

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Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I blew up a teacher once! No permanent injuries or anything but mildly exploded just the same.

The teacher assigned to the gifted program at my school also happened to be the chemistry teacher. We got to play with chemistry related poo poo as well as the usual logic puzzles and trying to break the computers. This is 7th grade so we didn't really know much about anything. She kinda assumed that gifted class = not stupid. She assumed way too much.

We ended up having a class assignment that was basically "Make a physical thing happen using a chemical reaction". My partner and I decided to make a sort of rocket boat thing. We knew that zinc ribbon in HCI makes hydrogen. So, glass Pepsi bottle with fins, and a hole poked in the cap filled with HCI. Idea was, as the zinc dissolves it would create pressure and make a sort of jet out of the bottle cap hole and propel the whole thing around in a sink full of water.

The problem was that my idiot partner never made the hole in the bottle cap. So we fill this thing half full of acid, shove a bunch of zinc in there and quick screw the cap on tight. I immediately realized that things were hosed and yelled for the teacher. She saw the thing fizzing and called for everyone to hit the loving bricks. Hit them we did and a few seconds later that bottle blew right the gently caress up. It sounded like a shotgun.

I remember the teacher holding her arm, blood dripping on the floor and a bunch of other teachers running in thinking there had been gunfire. She had a decent size piece of glass shrapnel in her arm. The rest of the bottle sort of vaporized and all the lab tables were covered in powdered glass. Except for the cap. That was lodged firmly in the ceiling with the glass threads still in it. From then on we didn't get to play with chemicals. Or do anything else that was any fun either. It was pretty much another study hall from then on, with a different teacher. We broke that poor lady. Literally. We blew up her god damned arm.

When we did this in high school it was just a way to have some fun getting rid of some dry ice that would just sublimate at the end of the day anyway. Plastic bottles, though. One didn't burst so we threw rocks at it. The vice principal ran down thinking something had legit detonated.

Intoluene
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I do wonder if Cherenkov radiation is like the auroras in that they look way better in photos than in real life.

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Mustached Demon posted:

Nope way cooler in person.

Great now I have the suicidal urge to see Cherenkov Radiation.

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I don't know about what happens to matter inside a black hole but the two results of a person passing the event horizon are dying really quickly or dying quickly. Either there's a massive amount of energy that vaporises you instantly past the event horizon or you go through the lovely named process of sphagettification where the part closest to the black hole moves much quicker than the other parts and you become stretched out by gravity.

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I'd probably avoid DCM if at all possible without proper lab conditions.

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Samizdata posted:

Not, but they need to be sequestered before they poison the conversation. Tired of toxic toxicity. First thing, it feels like the fit right in, then you're all short of breath and BAM! You're unconscious.

Look, at least he gives a warning unlike his little brother, CO.

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Pfft, I get alkaline water from my tap. I tested it with phenolphthalein.

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Delivery McGee posted:

Is that the indicator that is also the least bad denaturant for ethanol?

Nope, it's just the old high school science class standard titration indicator. I tested the tap water with it in class once because I was bored.

Edit: a quick search shows me that you're thinking of methyl violet. It's used more as a dye there than an actual additive. Typically methanol is used but pyridine can be used too.

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babyeatingpsychopath posted:

Phenolpthalein was Ex-Lax until they changed the formulation, so yeah.

However, a good thing to put in drinks is Methylene Blue. In acidic mixtures (most mixed alcoholic beverages) it's clear. In basic solutions (like urine) it's vibrant blue. It's also removed from the blood by the kidneys unchanged. Depending on hydration level, you can have someone pissing near-fluorescent green.

It's also completely safe. No side effects other than pissing, making GBS threads and sweating blue or green.

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I say it now but I'd totally take one for team science if this ever happened to me.

Intoluene
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My vote is for tiktaalik.

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Exit Strategy posted:

When I worked at Carnegie Science Center, I was the Laser Safety Officer. It was my job to make sure that all of the lasers that the museum used were either eye-safe or sufficiently enclosed and aimed such that any radiation emitted couldn't be absorbed by people in dangerous ways.

When I had my photograph taken for the ID card, I was recovering from an eye surgery. So for the rest of my tenure at CSC, my badge had my name and LASER SAFETY with a picture of me wearing an eyepatch.

Why the gently caress have I never heard this story from you?

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Watching Chernobyl now, it's incredible how many of these people survived. The people who did not are very clearly not okay. The accepted number of deaths from the incident is only 31, surprisingly. The three that turned off the water system were actually fine. Two are still alive, one died in 2005 of heart failure.

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The red one is definitely from Lithium but not sure about the green. Copper, maybe? I haven't had to do a flame ion test since high school.

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MrYenko posted:

It’s orthoboric acid.

That’s roach powder he pours in the second extinguisher.

Okay, boron can make that green as well so that makes sense.

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Zereth posted:

isn't a nucleus ejecting protons called "fission"

In strict terms, radioactive decay can shave off alpha particles, too. Fission is when you split an atom in to two parts. Alpha particles and neutrons tend to result when you shear a nucleus apart.

I guess if you include helium as a fissile product, Alpha decay is fission. :shrug:

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Phanatic posted:

Two or more parts. Ternary fission is relatively rare, but it happens.


Alpha decay is pretty much a special case of spontaneous fission. It's a quantum-tunneling process. You've got the strong force trying to hold all the nucleons together, and you've got electrostatic repulsion between the protons trying to fly them apart, and usually they're in a potential well deep enough that they can't get out. But they can quantum-tunnel out of that well and escape.

Didn't know about ternary fission. That's actually pretty cool.

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