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Doh004
Apr 22, 2007

Mmmmm Donuts...

LLSix posted:

Looking for some feedback on my resume. I tried to inline my language and technical skills with their relevant tasks and job experience to make space for more work experience examples.

I've worked primarily in embedded devices and for family reasons have moved to an area without any companies that need embedded developers. So I'm primarily applying to remote work, most of which is CRUD and web-based it looks like which I'm happy to do. I took a semi-local job with a company that makes a CRUD app to be able to put something on my resume that's shows I can do that kind of work. Is it better off at the bottom of my job experience list since its the position I've had that involves the least responsibility and is least impressive; or if it needs to be at the top to highlight that I've done the kind of jobs I'm applying to before?

1. Order your professional experience newest to oldest.
2. Kill the associations
3. Highlight your personal projects more than just saying you did them and not even specify/link to them
4. Format your sections like you would code (indentation can be your friend here)
5. Try to cut down on the amount of text for each of your lines. Indenting above will mean you'll have less space to fit things in which will help you out in the long run.

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vonnegutt
Aug 7, 2006
Hobocamp.

Doh004 posted:

1. Order your professional experience newest to oldest.
2. Kill the associations
3. Highlight your personal projects more than just saying you did them and not even specify/link to them
4. Format your sections like you would code (indentation can be your friend here)
5. Try to cut down on the amount of text for each of your lines. Indenting above will mean you'll have less space to fit things in which will help you out in the long run.

Also, it's not against the rules to have different resumes for different job applications. It's a marketing document, so if you're trying to switch from embedded to web dev, emphasize web dev experience. Obviously don't make anything up, but your resume should be "I'm a great all-around developer who has experience with {web dev technologies} and many years of experience with other technologies" whereas if you were applying to embedded software positions it would be more like "I am a fantastic embedded developer with many years of experience".

Right now the embedded position is largest and most prominent (which makes sense, you were there 7 years) but you need to have your web dev experience front and center.

vonnegutt fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 11, 2018

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Some idiot on LinkedIn thinks they can tempt me with a short-term tier-1 IT tech job provisioning laptops and setting up meeting rooms. :fuckoff:

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

I deleted my LinkedIn account not that long ago.

The only activity I saw on it was from terribad recruiters trying to friend me in order to mine my network, or pitching completely irrelevant openings.

I also didn’t like at all that LinkedIn put public profiles behind a login wall. People can’t see my resume without giving LinkedIn their own information and being tracked? Screw that.

Uhh Nope
May 20, 2016
Thought I'd cross-post my recent tech screening experience from the Game Jobs thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3415662&pagenumber=611&perpage=40#post488827364

I'm probably going to try the 4 week intensive studying thing before I try any more applications and see how it goes.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Just wanted to get other people's thoughts on this job posting I came across. They mention:

* "Unprecedented" revenue growth
* "Urgent need" for senior development manager + senior testing manager
* 4 year degree + 3-5 years experience, ideally in JS / jQuery, CSS, and web applications
* "Annual earnings potential of over $100,000"
* "Casual, fun, team environment with a family feel"


The high salary + low experience requirement kind of throws me for a loop. I live in WNY which has an absurdly low cost of living, but $100K would be a 53% pay increase for me.

I think I'm going to apply, but it sounds a little too good to be true? Either that or they'll work you like a dog - and my life schedule really cannot afford overtime.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
I'm on the west coast and 100k doesn't seem unrealistic for that level of experience. The red flag for me is that it's described as "earnings potential", which makes me suspect the company has some weird compensation structure.

("Casual, fun environment with family feel" is also a giant red flag for me, but different strokes and all.)

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Yeah, "earnings potential" sounds like those "speeds of up to 100MBps" kinds of claims you see on broadband ads.

Sab669
Sep 24, 2009

Agreed on both accounts of potential red flags

Roadie
Jun 30, 2013
Earnings "potential" makes me think they're going to hand you a bunch of currently-worthless stock with a ridiculously low base pay, or have some bizarro bonus structure involving a bunch of sales crap instead of dev work.

good jovi
Dec 11, 2000

'm pro-dickgirl, and I VOTE!

That sounds like an ad you’d see stapled to a telephone pole.

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

It'll be an $11.42 per hour job and as long as you work every single hour of every single day in a year you can hit $100,000

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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I'm betting on poo poo salary, but with big bonus opportunities! (I'm sorry we don't have the money for a bonus this year (for you - we're buying everyone in upper management a boat though)).

putin is a cunt
Apr 5, 2007

BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION
Earnings "potential" is the language they use when they're talking about bonuses that you theoretically could get but aren't guaranteed. And yes, it's a red flag because you have no idea how realistic the criteria for the bonuses are.

New Yorp New Yorp
Jul 18, 2003

Only in Kenya.
Pillbug

a hot gujju bhabhi posted:

Earnings "potential" is the language they use when they're talking about bonuses that you theoretically could get but aren't guaranteed. And yes, it's a red flag because you have no idea how realistic the criteria for the bonuses are.

Right. A good job pays you well regardless of the "potential" for bonuses. Bonuses are, well, bonuses. It's great when they come along, but they don't make up for lovely base pay. The ideal is to be paid well AND to receive good bonuses, but if I had to choose between the two, I'd choose "be paid well without bonuses".

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


I think I've gotten into a good rhythm with work now.

"Day job" client: 5 day work weeks at contractor day rates, 1 day per week in the office.
"Part time" client: fully remote evenings and weekends and other spare moments as and when I feel like it, fixed-quote based on a generous hourly rate.

When I have enough money (lol) I'll likely cut my day job clients down to maybe 3 days per week fully remote and drop my part time clientele, or can the day job entirely and take enough "free time" jobs to get by. Eventually...

I've already resolved never to take gigs requiring more than 2 days in the office per week. It's just not worth it on any scale.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Any of y'all work jobs on upwork? I've made a few hundred off it, but the biggest success was forming a relationship with someone who has me refresh his football app every summer in anticipation for the next season.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I tried toptal and it seemed really promising until I failed the remarkably hard algorithms test, I'm thinking about studying a bit and giving that another go.

awesomeolion
Nov 5, 2007

"Hi, I'm awesomeolion."

Careful Drums posted:

Any of y'all work jobs on upwork? I've made a few hundred off it, but the biggest success was forming a relationship with someone who has me refresh his football app every summer in anticipation for the next season.

I've done a decent amount of Upwork freelancing and it's okay. I found gun.io to be by far the best freelancing site because it has higher quality clients with larger budgets. They have people who screen both clients and freelancers (rather than register and you're in right away) so you get a lot less "make me an operating system for $100" type stuff.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


awesomeolion posted:

I've done a decent amount of Upwork freelancing and it's okay. I found gun.io to be by far the best freelancing site because it has higher quality clients with larger budgets. They have people who screen both clients and freelancers (rather than register and you're in right away) so you get a lot less "make me an operating system for $100" type stuff.

gun.io seems to be targeting full time freelancers, would be worthwhile to get some part time work too?

I've tried upwork before and was turned off by all of the "build crm addon for $10/hour" garbage.

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

The Fool posted:

gun.io seems to be targeting full time freelancers, would be worthwhile to get some part time work too?


There's this question on the registration form:


So I would guess they support both?

Thots and Prayers
Jul 13, 2006

A is the for the atrocious abominated acts that YOu committed. A is also for ass-i-nine, eight, seven, and six.

B, b, b - b is for your belligerent, bitchy, bottomless state of affairs, but why?

C is for the cantankerous condition of our character, you have no cut-out.
Grimey Drawer
Whatup thread? I used a lot of the advice from here and landed myself a new job!

Promotion, raise, and better gig all around! Lots of thanks to y'all.

e: Some deets:

+ Started looking when I saw good peers bailing from old company.
+ Looked while still employed, spent six months in total.
+ I wound up revising my resume multiple times.
+ I definitely improved from every unsuccessful interview.
+ I got *way* better at interviewing -them-, i.e. "Do you have any questions for us?" My two go-to questions were "What does the day-to-day look like for this job?" which always led to further discussion, and "What does success look like for this job? -or- How do you measure success for this position?"
+ Sucked it up and negotiated upwards a good amount from the original offer - which I would have jumped at before this. Holy hell, negotiation has always been a weak point for me.

Thots and Prayers fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Oct 30, 2018

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Thots and Prayers posted:

Whatup thread? I used a lot of the advice from here and landed myself a new job!

Promotion, raise, and better gig all around! Lots of thanks to y'all.

e: Some deets:

+ Started looking when I saw good peers bailing from old company.
+ Looked while still employed, spent six months in total.
+ I wound up revising my resume multiple times.
+ I definitely improved from every unsuccessful interview.
+ I got *way* better at interviewing -them-, i.e. "Do you have any questions for us?" My two go-to questions were "What does the day-to-day look like for this job?" which always led to further discussion, and "What does success look like for this job? -or- How do you measure success for this position?"
+ Sucked it up and negotiated upwards a good amount from the original offer - which I would have jumped at before this. Holy hell, negotiation has always been a weak point for me.

Congratulations :)

I swear one time when I dropped the "What does success look like here" question to a C-level type as a young college grad the dude came in his pants and offered me a job.

csammis
Aug 26, 2003

Mental Institution
I'm doing an interview via Google Hangouts and HackerRack next week...never done one of these "on line" coding things before :corsair: This is for a firmware engineering position so I'm even less certain what to expect. Isn't HackerRank testing primarily geared towards basic algorithms?

LLSix
Jan 20, 2010

The real power behind countless overlords

csammis posted:

I'm doing an interview via Google Hangouts and HackerRack next week...never done one of these "on line" coding things before :corsair: This is for a firmware engineering position so I'm even less certain what to expect. Isn't HackerRank testing primarily geared towards basic algorithms?

It also has a reasonably accessible in-browser IDE which is all the interviewer is using it for. It's kind of like remoting into their PC and typing in an IDE of the interviewer's choice but without all the pesky security issues that would raise.

I'd suggest trying a few problems in whatever language the interview is going to be in. Not for the problems, but to get used to the error message you get back. They're often more cryptic than what you'd get in a non-browser IDE for that language.

csammis
Aug 26, 2003

Mental Institution
Good advice about trying the environment beforehand. I'll give C and Python a whirl. From the confirmation link:

quote:

You will go through coding and algorithm based questions with one of our software engineers and you can use the language of your choice.

The rest of the email sounds fairly boilerplate though and this company employs many different kinds of software engineers so who knows what I'll be asked :v:


e: holy poo poo I really like that IDE. The prototype completion for C is priceless. Inline editors have come a long way since I last saw one.

csammis fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Oct 30, 2018

Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Huh, I remember HackerRank's IDE being a text box set to monospace font, but that was years ago. Maybe I ought to see if my old account is still active.

vonnegutt
Aug 7, 2006
Hobocamp.
Can anyone give me any advice on how to get my good bug reports? I can't seem to train management to include anything except screenshots.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
They don't understand how much information you need to do your work; as far as they're concerned we're all magicians. So it's a combination of ignorance and laziness that you're fighting here. Document a process, get them to agree to it, and then start closing/bouncing bugs back with "sorry, this bug doesn't have enough information for us to be able to start work, please follow process as documented in <link to document>". During the "get them to agree to it" phase, you should point out that you want to be able to fix bugs, we're on the same side here, it's just a waste of everyone's time to create a bug that doesn't have enough info to be actionable.

Ideally your bug-filing system lets you provide a default template that asks them for the info you need, but in my experience users will just ignore all the parts they don't feel like filling out unless they're appropriately motivated.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Ideally your bug-filing system lets you provide a default template that asks them for the info you need, but in my experience users will just ignore all the parts they don't feel like filling out unless they're appropriately motivated.

This is how we got our customer support department to start including a fundamental unique ID in all their bug reports, plus we made the field required. I don't know how well that would work with management as the offending party though; without buy-in they're just going to force whoever manages the bug report system to make the field not required.

TooMuchAbstraction has the right approach in general though: messaging, emphasizing that you need this information because you want to help and it will let you help faster/at all. Document how people can get the information you need, and if it's really hard to get, consider buliding something that will make it easy for them to get - if they have to jump through a lot of hoops, especially technical hoops, they're never going to cooperate.

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008

Che Delilas posted:

This is how we got our customer support department to start including a fundamental unique ID in all their bug reports, plus we made the field required. I don't know how well that would work with management as the offending party though; without buy-in they're just going to force whoever manages the bug report system to make the field not required.

Shouldn't the bug system create and assign that ID automatically?

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Doom Mathematic posted:

Shouldn't the bug system create and assign that ID automatically?

I don't mean a unique ID for the ticket that they're creating, I mean the unique ID of the thing that's wrong in the product we make/support. Like, say, Location ID.

"There's something wrong with WalMart Canada"
"We have 470 different WalMart Canada locations. What's the LocationID."

wins32767
Mar 16, 2007

Get some data together to show how much faster bugs get fixed when filed with the right amount of data versus incomplete. That'll make the buy in a lot easier and help you demonstrate that you're on the side of the customer (management).

Careful Drums
Oct 30, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'm still looking into taking a remote job. Current job is awesome but working remote seems out of the question and I am tired of commuting. I went through the trouble of updating my resume, would anyone want to offer and feedback or advice?

(don't doxx me thx)

My web presence stuff isn't quite there yet - I probably won't apply anywhere until the new year. I've gotten started developing a dumb little web-based game with ASP.NET Core /MVC just to show proof I can do the things on the resume and I need to actually write some blog posts to show I can communicate over the web, but hey, the resume is a start.


moved to other career thread

Careful Drums fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Nov 14, 2018

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
I have a bit of a conundrum. I've been referred for a position at a well-known $localTechCompany. It's apparently a great place to work and I'm sick of my current job, so I'm very interested in following up on this position. $localTechCompany is a solid and well-established firm, with pretty reasonable financial performance.

I'd be joining a small satellite office - ~5% of their headcount - in my city. They've been growing this office aggressively and are moving into new offices next year.

However, news has recently come out that a large international $privateEquityFirm is interested in taking over $localTechCompany. I know gently caress all about business, but commentators seem to think the deal isn't unrealistic. The current and long-term CEO is also leaving at the end of this year.

So, I'm concerned. On the one hand, this is a decent position at a well-performing org. On the other, I don't really think it's wise to trust that $privateEquityFirm won't be doing normal :capitalism: things like shutting down unneeded offices (i.e. the one here) and/or reducing headcount (i.e. new hires i.e. potentially me). On the other other hand, the takeover might not even go ahead!

The potential takeover makes me very nervous and unwilling to pursue this opportunity - I like stability and not being fired. But there's a nonzero chance that's just an excuse I've come up with to stay at $currentJob which, while poo poo, is at least a known quantity that will tide me over while I find a recruiter or some poo poo.

I really don't know what to think or consider or look out for.

Gildiss
Aug 24, 2010

Grimey Drawer
Stability is an illusion.

Jaded Burnout
Jul 10, 2004


Gildiss posted:

Stability is an illusion.

Yeah this. Your current job won't hesitate to can you if it becomes expedient for them to do so. IMO the only stability you have is your own skills and living in a seller's market. Also bear in mind that we tend to fear loss much more than equivalent or greater gain.

Embrace the change!

pokeyman
Nov 26, 2006

That elephant ate my entire platoon.

redleader posted:

I really don't know what to think or consider or look out for.

What are the odds you could come back to your current job if the new job disappears? You said you’re tired of current job, but if they’re still happy with your performance I’m sure they’d put you top of the list if you came back in a year.

2nd Rate Poster
Mar 25, 2004

i started a joke
Was the CEO a founder of the company?

It spells trouble for that business that she's leaving and there's talks of a PE buyout.

I would not hinder your career growth if it's an upward move. But be absolutely sure to go into it with your eyes open that things are going to likely be hosed in the medium to long term, and prioritze making sure you get compensated and you get a title bump well over any cultural or interesting work promises (you should be doing this anyway)

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Xik
Mar 10, 2011

Dinosaur Gum
Anyone in the thread willing to share their experience and/or advice regarding taking a sabbatical/extended leave or an unemployment "gap"? My current title is the equivalent of "Intermediate Software Developer" and I'd liking be applying for the same title after a ~6-8 month period of unemployment.

Wife and I are discussing one of us taking a break for a puppy (among other things) and I a) earn less b) have a less specialist role and have been at current employer for quite some time, where as she recently switched. So makes sense that I'm the one.

My primary concern is explaining the gap in the future. I'm sure my current boss would provide a reference to alleviate the whole "he probably got fired" thing, but that would require getting to the stage of reference checking. The market is quite healthy here for my skills, but I'm still concerned about how this will affect my career?

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