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Dec 10, 2011

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LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalassophobia

Its more the idea of scary things lurking the depths that you cant see (because its so deep).. stories of shark attacks and even nessie sightings don't help

I've been scuba diving in crystal clear coral reefs but man nothing scares the poo poo out of me like vast, dark bodies of water.

So it's like racism, but for oceans?

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painted bird posted:

He has profound disabilities, yes. He cannot communicate effectively. But he has lived for three and a half decades and he has experienced them somehow or other and he has thoughts on them, whatever they may be, whatever complexity they may be, that an infant or a toddler would not have.

His comprehension, attention span, verbal and reasoning ability and so on have not been formally tested and the severity of his cerebral palsy prevents conclusive, rigorous tests of them, but at the very least, he has 35 years' worth of memories, even if he does not process them the way others would. That makes him objectively, quantitatively different to an infant, even if you do not accept the assertion that a grown man is qualitatively different from an infant, whatever the status of his brain.

You realise you sound like Terri Schiavo's husband, right?

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painted bird posted:

I do not, because a) he was advocating to have life support removed and it was her parents that wanted her to be kept on life support indefinitely b) Terri Schiavo's brain was almost entirely gone. DJ's brain is all there, even if he's disabled. You cannot compare a living human being to a corpse on a ventilator.

I beg your pardon, I got it the wrong way round. You actually sound like Terri Schiavo's parents. And it doesn't matter if you're slightly less wrong than they were, you still sound like them.

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AnonSpore posted:

English football fans have their own wikipedia article

No, English hooligans have their own article. For the American football fans who get violent sport is the reason, whereas for hooligans it's just the excuse.

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Karma Monkey posted:

Oh I guess I thought there was a knife involved.

The article says Sanchez and Norwood would also be facing weapons charges that could get them ten years, so there probably was a knife involved.

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^^^ It was a bit of both.

eightpole posted:

What about the holocaust?

I hate to say it, but we're kind of used to the Holocaust now. We know the Nazis were absolutely evil in the most banal way, there's no individual atrocity we can hear of where we would think "Well, that's a bit much, even for them". Whatever they did, we expect it.

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Chichevache posted:

This brings up an interesting- and relevant- point: where does woods porn come from? Woods porn is something I remember fondly from my own childhood. Does PYF Creepy have any theories?

Back in the days before the Internet, when actual physical copies were required, teenagers didn't want to stash their porn where their parents might find it.

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pookel posted:

Texas Monthly has shown up so many times in this thread, and it's always, always excellent. Do they just specialize in well-written longform crime stories?

Not as such, but Texas seems to specialise in crimes. And guns.

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Doctor_Acula posted:

I've been trying to find a good true crime audio book to use my Audible credit on, but everything seems bland.

I don't know what's on Audible, but if you can find a copy of Forty Years of Murder by Keith Simpson then do. He was Britain's top forensic pathologist for many years and worked a lot of high profile cases. It's CSI: Real Life.

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Mr. Flunchy posted:

A man is found dead in a locked hotel room, apparently from natural causes. But during the autopsy, a mortician discovers that his organs are crushed and he bears all the signs of suffering a violent beating, yet there's no external marks or signs of anyone else being in the hotel room. Everyone is baffled.

It's a great detective story:

http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2013/05/true-crime-elegante-hotel-texas-murder

You know what I find unnerving? The way Vanity Fair articles describe everyone's hairstyle regardless of what the article is about. It's loving weird.

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Geniasis posted:

It really weirds me out that there was this dude who was loving sewing people together, and still there are people who are like "yknow the nazis had some good ideas"

I'm told there was a lot of data taken out of the concentration camp laboratories that was invaluable to medical science, but nobody could get it any other way because it required being a monster.

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Travis343 posted:

Reeeeeeeally want to know what that medal was for.

If you can get a medal up your dick, you deserve a medal.

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What's creepy about it?

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Harold Stassen posted:

This. Stop defending it, man. Not the hill you wanna die on.

Well, if he does at least he won't go to waste.

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Screaming Idiot posted:

Can we just end the argument and agree that we're all humanitarians deep down inside?

You are what you eat, I guess.

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A Spider Covets posted:

Christ her face looks like a mask

She used the money she took from her victim to have a facelift.

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Deified Data posted:

She's like a Junji Ito drawing come to life.

By reports she was calm and smiling even as they hanged her. I don't know about the first but for the second she likely didn't have much choice.

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Josef K. Sourdust posted:

Would there be any interest in a missing persons thread, probably in A/T?

That depends, how many police officers are reading?

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The Mentalizer posted:

And that's not even the worst thing from that article.

(Still :nms:)
Peter Gerard Scully (born January 13, 1963) is an Australian child molester guilty of the murder of an 11-year-old girl, and of the torture and sexual abuse of at least eight girls, including an 18-month-old infant.

Jesus Christ.

Somewhere in the top 10 worst things about those three paragraphs:

"Scully's partner, a 17-year-old Filipino girl, who was also a prior victim of his abuse, as she used to be a prostitute in the Philippines"

The Wiki entry is short, but you can read more detail in the source articles.

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In between filming sessions the pair were allegedly instructed to dig a hole in the home's back garden.

Five days after kidnapping them, Alvarez unchained the cousins. When the girls realised they were digging their own graves they were able to escape.

Peter Gerard Scully posted:

I have done nothing bad.

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Jack Gladney posted:

He's probably the only non-white sov cit in the world.

Well, yeah. When black people do things that sovereign citizens do they get shot, not tasered.

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crowoutofcontext posted:

But cluster suicides throw that all out the window.

That's certainly a turn of phrase.

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atomicthumbs posted:

One time I saw a Titanium themes bouncy house and realized "yep in 100 years or less 9/11 is gonna be a children's amusement."

Jet fuel can't melt latex beams.

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News on the BBC today about an Aussie bloke who got bitten on the dong by a redback spider. Luckily he was near a hospital, so we were spared a recreation of the famous joke.

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pookel posted:

In either case, organizations like Autism Speaks are partly to blame, not only for showing them sympathy but for promoting the narrative that autism is a terrible tragedy. They talk about autism stealing children's souls; they call it a "darkness," they talk about children with dead eyes or who are locked away from the world. It's no surprise that awful consequences result when parents start believing their children are monsters, or would be better off dead.

My cousin has a son who is profoundly autistic. He doesn't speak; he used to communicate a bit using sign language, but that may have stopped. He has violently assaulted his younger siblings and on one occasion set fire to the house. It was only a stroke of luck that prevented his whole family being killed. And the saddest part is that my cousin can't accept that he can't do anything about it, that he can't help his son and that the boy needs to be institutionalised for the sake of his own family.

Is he a monster, though? I don't think so. To be a true monster he'd have to be capable of understanding right and wrong, and he isn't. He doesn't fail to understand the rules or ignore the rules; he just isn't aware that there are rules. There is simply a world with which he has no association. He could kill his parents and his brother and sisters and he wouldn't care. He might not even notice. If that thought doesn't scare the living poo poo out of you, it should.

I have nothing but disgust for a person who would kill their malfunctioning child rather than take responsibility for their care. But I can absolutely understand why they are terrified enough to do it, and why the only push they need is for someone to tell them it's OK because the kid isn't really human. And yeah, it is a loving tragedy, on every level for everyone involved.

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Funky See Funky Do posted:

Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives. There's an excellent documentary about a girl with the disorder out there somewhere but at the moment I can't find it. It may be the same girl in this news story which will have to do until I can find the doco.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnABHy6tjL8

Odd coincidence, there's an article on this in the new issue of Fortean Times and I was about to post about it.

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Apraxin posted:

Fire in the Night, about the Piper Alpha disaster, is a good one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PcDNRSsM24

A colleague of mine used to work with the guy who was duty control manager on Tartan during the incident, and he confirms that after Claymore requested permission to shut down he was directly instructed to keep pumping gas across to Piper Alpha as it burned.

If you want a really unnerving story about Piper Alpha, though: just this week Occidental Petroleum bought out Apache. Nobody ever expected those fuckers to return to the North Sea, and I have no idea who's going to work for them now.

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LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:

was this a case of management not understanding what was happening or of 'lets get as much oil through before we reaaaally have to stop

Neither. Shutting down the pipeline was expensive, and it wouldn't have saved Piper Alpha at that point. It maybe wouldn't even have saved any lives. But it certainly made the fire worse.

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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

I got a little sick to my stomach trying to read that.

If you read to the end, he got sick to his stomach saying it. He intellectually understood that what he had done was wrong, but couldn't comprehend how he got to that point.

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crowoutofcontext posted:

He didnt blurt that out until the police literally opened a bit of the container and saw the shirt which he himself had days prior described to them as the last outfit he saw her in. His original story was that the duct-taped container was protecting rare comic books from moisture damage. He also had a meltdown to an online friend about extreme nervousness about being falsely implicated for the "neighbors lost girl" disappearance-behavior that made no logical sense from someone who was trying to act completely innocent.

Its really disturbing how he doesn't have the usual psychopathic or sociopath traits one usually associates with these crimes, he seemed indecisive, hesitant, was a horrible liar.

Underwood reminds me a lot of Dennis Nilsen, the Muswell Hill Murderer. I don't have time to write it up now, but he's worth a Google.

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Grumbletron 4000 posted:

It undoubtedly had to do with mutilating genitals. The man seemed to have a knack for that. I'm thinking he probably got the motor spinning and then got the scrote to wrap around the motor shaft. Sort of like when you accidentally get a sock or something wrapped around your vaccuum brush. Only with ball sack flesh instead of a sock. And a crude electric torture motor instead of a vaccuum.

I think I'm more unnerved that you came up with that poo poo than I would be by finding out Corll did it.

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Phanatic posted:

Jesus. How many forums posters would we have left if that were the law in America and it were consistently enforced? I've rarely been so happy for the 1st Amendment.

What do you think would happen in the US if you walked through a Jewish area wearing a t-shirt that read "Kikes did 9/11, bring back the gas chambers"?

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Phanatic posted:

You would not legally be arrested, and if you were arrested you'd have cause for a massive civil rights lawsuit because you're engaged in clearly protected speech. Brandenburg v. Ohio. It's not even a close call, it's a clearly established right and you could sue even the individual cops who arrested you and they wouldn't have any immunity.

You might be assaulted, but then the cops would arrest the people who assaulted you for breaking the law, not you for making other people distressed or angry.

Which is why Britain is sane in this instance and America isn't. This guy wasn't arrested over freedom of speech. He was arrested because he was deliberately attempting to get other people to break the law by attacking him.

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Chichevache posted:

I admit it, I watched the video. And I felt oddly sympathetic the whole time. Here is this man, he's given his life to entertaining. And now he's giving his life for entertaining. He's going to gasp out his final moments during a live show, and somehow, that just feels wrong. Logically it shouldn't, but I still can't help but be struck by how inappropriate death is. There's something sacrosanct about the show: it must go on. I can't help but be utterly terrified of how alone it must feel to kick and squirm for air while hundreds of people laugh at your torment. It is the kind of ghastly fate reserved for executions from our darker ages, not kind-hearted performers. For Christ's sake he even looks like an ideal grandfather.

So, I'm watching this poor bastard's final seconds in utter suspense. I want to know how this could happen. I want to know why the drat clown died. There's nothing ominous in the opening. He tells a joke, gets a bunch of laughs, and then pauses a second to long. I figure he's going to bite it there. Nope. Then, there's a little gunpowder effect. He freezes, his eyes go wide as saucers, and he turns, as if he hears someone calling his name. I think, "the poor old soul just startled himself to death, which is utterly tragic". Nope. He plows right on in to the next joke.

Finally, his attractive, blonde assistant comes out, changes his wardrobe, and bends over in front of him. Bam. He kicks it. Right there, right smack dab in the microscopic center of comedic timing. That wizard motherfucker couldn't have died funnier if he had planned it. I feel terrible. I do. But that video was a David Lynch-ian mindfuck, right down to the laughing audience and the "Live From Her Majesty's" sign-off. That video is a hoot.


:rip:

You should have tried watching it live on TV aged nine, like I did. Things going wrong was Tommy Cooper's schtick - he was a highly skilled stage magician and a member of the Magic Circle, but he'd found that people were more entertained when his tricks failed so he set them up that way for the laughs. It wasn't even a matter of people thinking his collapse was funny or well timed. Everyone watching genuinely believed it was part of the act. And that's the worst part: it was known before the show that Cooper wasn't in good health, they'd even jerry rigged a dressing room in the wings for him because he was having trouble with stairs. If he hadn't had his heart attack at such a perfectly timed moment, people might have reacted fast enough to save him.

If you really want to see something :nms: though, watch Howard Keel's performance from the same evening. He was singing in front of the curtain while they tried to revive Cooper behind it.

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Screaming Idiot posted:

Jesus Christ, this reads like the plot of a particularly dark Coen brothers movie. That poor woman. :smith:

You missed the bit where it occurred on the location of a particularly dark Coen Brothers movie, then?

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Crow Jane posted:

It'd be one thing if it were Bauhaus. At the time, her favorite band was Belle and frickin' Sebastian. How on earth her parents found that threatening is beyond me.

They have an album called The Boy With The Arab Strap. I'm not going to inquire as to how a pair of fundies knew what an Arab strap is, but if they're ignorant of the music and saw the album name I can well understand them thinking it was perverted and ungodly.

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pookel posted:

I have no idea what an Arab strap is (something sexual?) but I'm assuming "Arab" is all they'd need to see to think it's Satanic.

It's a cockring, basically.

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Jonathan Yeah! posted:

Bit :tinfoil: but why did he buy return tickets? Seems a bit odd.

He might have wanted to be prepared in case he couldn't go through with it. Or he may not have wanted to make people wonder why he was traveling 200 miles with no luggage or plans to return.

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Telemaze posted:

I started reading this and was like "what's the big deal? It's... oh. OH." That poor kid.

2/10 no ring.

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Solice Kirsk posted:

Just put a Cradle of Filth album on repeat until the skull admits defeat and moves on.

The BBC made a TV programme a bunch of years ago where they had Dani Filth live with a family of fundamentalist Christians for two weeks. Apparently they got on surprisingly well.

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LSD CURES JUNKIES posted:

Here's something I find unnerving:

A dude in the town where I live beat his twin to death with a hammer

A word of wisdom for that guy - using your twin to provide an alibi for your crimes does not work in all situations.

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